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POTUS 45.5 - Sweden is Under Attack

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jerphisch said:
I think the stuff the D's should have liked instead had them rolling their eyes to the back of their heads. If he follows through on some of it fantastic, but I think they viewed it with a healthy gulp of skepticism. Trump went out of his way to be an enormous d-hole on Obamacare early on, which I think kind of set the mood. It seemed like a lot that D's would like appeared out of nowhere, and I'm guessing will disappear just as quickly, but hopefully he was serious about it.
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This is just another con by the con man. Similar to his post election speeches, where he adopted the quieter tone, "Let's come together and unite the country again", and then went about doing whatever the h@ll he wanted to do anyway, with a snide and arrogant tone. This will be just more of the same.

He needs Democratic cover to do some of the things he wants, like get rid of Obamacare. And he's also really scared of what a Russia investigation will reveal. he's trying to quash that in the bud. Any democrat would be an idiot to play along with anything this guy wants to do.
 
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Deadspin with a pretty good take on VOICE

Donald Trump earned plaudits last night for giving a speech that was “presidential,” meaning one that adhered to standard norms of political bull**** and struck a “softer tone.” The fact that the political press corps would have such a measured reaction to the speech just proves how far our sense of respectability has moved in the age of Trump.

Here is a portion of that speech: “We must support the victims of crime. I have ordered the Department of Homeland Security to create an office to serve American victims. The office is called Voice, Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement. We are providing a voice to those who have been ignored by our media and silenced by special interests.”

Take away the members of congress and the TV cameras and the presidential trappings, and this is a proposal that could be coming from a Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard hollering at his compatriots by a burning cross. The president of the United States of America has just proposed to create a special government office dedicated exclusively to victims of crime by immigrants. It goes without saying that this measure is purely political. Our entire justice system is a “resource” for crime victims, and immigrants commit crime at lower rates than U.S. citizens. Anyone who asserts that there is any rational reason for the creation of this office is not worth talking to. The reason for this proposal is that racism is politically convenient...

Among the implicit assumptions in Trump’s proposal: 1) There is so much crime being committed by immigrants against Americans that it calls for a special government office to deal with it; 2) There is something unique about crimes committed by immigrants that necessitates the creation of a special office; and, perhaps most importantly, 3) The creation of a racist, politically motivated government office to smear and persecute immigrants will be popular with the American people. The first two points are false. The last, we’ll see.
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The sad thing is BS like that works. People assume that immigrants are committing crimes at such a high clip we need this. And not just Trumpettes...I know liberals that buy it too.
 
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Handyman said:
The sad thing is BS like that works. People assume that immigrants are committing crimes at such a high clip we need this. And not just Trumpettes...I know liberals that buy it too.
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People don't want facts. They want feelings.
 
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rufus said:
This is just another con by the con man. Similar to his post election speeches, where he adopted the quieter tone, "Let's come together and unite the country again", and then went about doing whatever the h@ll he wanted to do anyway, with a snide and arrogant tone. This will be just more of the same.

He needs Democratic cover to do some of the things he wants, like get rid of Obamacare. And he's also really scared of what a Russia investigation will reveal. he's trying to quash that in the bud. Any democrat would be an idiot to play along with anything this guy wants to do.
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One pundit said 'I wish everyone gave me the kind of credit Trump got last night. He just said things that were intelligible sentences - a little better than an anger spewing rant on Twitter and everyone was impressed'.

Too many give Trump credit on this. Many are saying its the new Trump or Trump in transition. The broader point is you don't give anyone credit for actions when all they deliver is words. And his actions to date have been uber partisan. Until he actually does stuff that includes the other 60%, he's a putz.
 
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Handyman said:
So It Was The Democrats All Along
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Tale as old as time.

In the days and weeks after Kristallnacht, Coughlin defended the state-sponsored violence of the Nazi regime, arguing that Kristallnacht was justified as retaliation for Jewish persecution of Christians. He explained to his listeners on November 20, 1938, that the “communistic government of Russia,” “the Lenins and Trotskys,…atheistic Jews and Gentiles” had murdered more than 20 million Christians and had stolen “40 billion [dollars]…of Christian property.” Following this broadcast, several radio stations refused to broadcast his program without pre-approved scripts. A few stations in New York cancelled his programs.

By the late 1930s, Coughlin began to promote fascist dictatorship and authoritarian government as the only cure to the ills of democracy and capitalism.
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The fascist play book has no new pages.
 
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The President of the United States has ties to Eastern European organized crime. Nice.

Be proud, GOP. You, who gave us Agnew, Nixon, Colson, Haldemann, Ehrlichman, Mitchell, Ailes, Watt, Deaver, North, DeLay, Gingrich, Libby, and Cheney have somehow outdone yourselves.
 
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