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POTUS 45:47: I Never Said There Was No Collusion!

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The Sicatoka said:
Well heck, we only have 28 currently active "state of emergency" declarations in the US. What's the 29th? :rolleyes:



https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/politics/national-emergencies-trump-opioid/index.html
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It looks like literally every one of those is specifically targeted to freeze the bank accounts of particular foreign nationals or establish export controls against particular rogue government members or the boards of companies doing business with them. In other words, they each affect tens of people.

Dumpy isn't doing something like that. Dumpy is essentially declaring a war and saying he can suspend the laws governing appropriations to pay for it. Something Lincoln didn't even try to do. At best he's trying to find a legal means to do Iran-Contra: after being told by Congress he can't have something, doing it anyway.

The power of the purse is the chief check of the legislature on the executive. None of those other orders affects that. THIS WOULD.

You righty knuckleheads spent 8 years seething and spewing bizarre conspiracy theories about how Obama was going to Jade Helm us, and now this f-cker is actually suggesting it and your response is "this is fine."

That's pretty d-mn unpatriotic, even by Republican standards. Maybe Putin deserves you guys.
 
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Handyman said:
Just cause he follows it doesn't mean he is a believer. Plenty of libs follow that stuff.
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I think of "follow" as stronger than "peruse." I peruse the knucks here. I don't follow them.

But I appreciate the attempted save. Thank you.
 
Re: POTUS 45:47: I Never Said There Was No Collusion!

The Sicatoka said:
Well heck, we only have 28 currently active "state of emergency" declarations in the US. What's the 29th? :rolleyes:



https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/politics/national-emergencies-trump-opioid/index.html
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And if Obama did this, for ANYTHING remotely like this- like if he did this for DACA, you would cry fowl. Nice hypocrisy for someone who didn't vote for this guy.

Not surprising at all, you just confirm what I think of you. Well done.

Looks like some people want us to enter into a different kind of government.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Sigh.

“BREAKING: The White House is reportedly drafting an emergency declaration order for President Trump to use to secure funding for his proposed border wall with Mexico.”
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My guess is, Trump is bluffing. This is his next card, and he's acting like he's got pocket Aces, but in reality he's got a deuce of hearts and a 4 of diamonds, while the flop was a dark suit warehouse.
 
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SJHovey said:
And therein lies the problem.

I don't want to see $5 spent on a border wall, much less $5 billion. Undoubtedly Pelosi and the Dems are extracting a great deal of joy out of torturing Trump politically, and I'm sure if the shoe were on the other foot the Republicans would probably be doing the same. That's the problem. People would much rather achieve political gain than any sort of resolution.

I don't think giving in to Trump on the wall is a solution, but if someone really wants to try to find a different solution with him it can probably be done.
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Dems are already working on offering up the whole 5.7 billion, used to hire more asylum judges and staff, drones, and other border security measures, just not a wall.

What do you suppose the odds are that the Russian Asset agrees?

Tell me again about "both sides"

That goes for Drew the idjit as well.
 
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Drew S. said:
I most definitely am, lest there be any doubt. I could be on board with a shutdown of a week, but at that point Chuck and Nancy should have realized he was digging in his heels and gotten on with a compromise. He is a modern day Trevor Chappell when it comes to being underhanded, I couldn’t agree more with that, but he’s our president and we have to live with it whether we like it or not. The stakes are so low here as far as the money for the wall that it’s pointless, and I would say irresponsible, to let this drag on for so long.

None of this is meant in any way to take blame away from Trump. I think there are a lot of people like me and SJ who care much more about the country/federal workers than we do over how politicians look.
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The dikwad who keeps whining on here about how the deficit is our major problem, and why won't someone do something about it, wants to throw $5 billion away without a seconds hesitation just to end a five-year-old's temper tantrum.

Very serious thinker, that Drew.


Idjit. I'm reminded of the immortal words of Rex Tillerman.
 
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SJHovey said:
And therein lies the problem.

I don't want to see $5 spent on a border wall, much less $5 billion. Undoubtedly Pelosi and the Dems are extracting a great deal of joy out of torturing Trump politically, and I'm sure if the shoe were on the other foot the Republicans would probably be doing the same. That's the problem. People would much rather achieve political gain than any sort of resolution.

I don't think giving in to Trump on the wall is a solution, but if someone really wants to try to find a different solution with him it can probably be done.
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Haven't the Dems already offered additional funding to improve border security, just not for a wall?
 
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Friend of mine posted this to FB. Haven't read back to see if anyone else posted this news.

I was just informed by an ATC friend that they got letters telling them that they will have to start paying for their own health, vision, and dental. This is unconscionable. All for a wall that will serve no purpose. Stop ****ing with peoples lives and pay the people who actually keep us safe. The Democrats are actually proposing giving 5.2 billion for border security just not a wall.
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I bet the Chinese astronauts are doing this too.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/JohnCornyn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JohnCornyn</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SenTedCruz</a>⁩ ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/RepBrianBabin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RepBrianBabin</a>⁩ This is our reality at the Johnson Space Center. We now have no custodial services while we work without pay to keep the International Space Station operating😡<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EndTheShutdown?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EndTheShutdown</a> <a href="https://t.co/QjDDpJuxwo">pic.twitter.com/QjDDpJuxwo</a></p>— Elizabeth Blome (@SpaceEliz) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpaceEliz/status/1088527875874148352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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