ericredaxe
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Maybe this should move to the thread on 2020 contenders... but what / who would be the best choices that could both win the democratic primary and also take on trump in the general?
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POTUS 45.41: We Need More Tax Cuts to pay for the Tax Cut
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Maybe this should move to the thread on 2020 contenders... but what / who would be the best choices that could both win the democratic primary and also take on trump in the general?
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Re: POTUS 45.41: We Need More Tax Cuts to pay for the Tax Cut
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This is disgusting.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Meanwhile, Helen's mother and grandmother were desperately searching for her, but she was placed in foster care soon after signing this form, having been misclassified as an unaccompanied minor. <a href="https://t.co/CTBdfeFVui">https://t.co/CTBdfeFVui</a></p>— Sean Lavery (@SeanLavery) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanLavery/status/1050528172985516032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
This is disgusting.
I hope not. This is what super delegates are for.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: POTUS 45.41: We Need More Tax Cuts to pay for the Tax Cut
If the answer is Avenetti the D's should just fold up their tent and go home.
I think it depends largely on the political climate in two years, but it seems like D's are likely to run into a problem that R's have had for some time, which is that the far wing of the party is so active in the primaries, a candidate with the potential for broad national appeal gets pushed aside. Or at least has to run to the fringes so far to get through it creates difficulties in defending their stances to the national audience. i.e. that selfie kneeling at Lenin's tomb can turn from awesome to problematic later on in the gen election.
Also, I lived in Newburyport briefly several years ago. Nice town.
If the answer is Avenetti the D's should just fold up their tent and go home.
I think it depends largely on the political climate in two years, but it seems like D's are likely to run into a problem that R's have had for some time, which is that the far wing of the party is so active in the primaries, a candidate with the potential for broad national appeal gets pushed aside. Or at least has to run to the fringes so far to get through it creates difficulties in defending their stances to the national audience. i.e. that selfie kneeling at Lenin's tomb can turn from awesome to problematic later on in the gen election.
Also, I lived in Newburyport briefly several years ago. Nice town.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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The country is already lost. Look who won. I warned everyone here that he was playing Presidential Apprentice and he was winning that game show. I was mocked, laughed at, and ridiculed. Now the genie is out of the bottle and that genie is never going back in.
The country is already lost. Look who won. I warned everyone here that he was playing Presidential Apprentice and he was winning that game show. I was mocked, laughed at, and ridiculed. Now the genie is out of the bottle and that genie is never going back in.
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I'd buy stock in Kamala Harris if I were a betting man. Checks all the boxes. Younger, non-white, aggressive, has govt experience, from CA which has lions share of Dem delegates, etc. Excites the base from the lefties to the women to the minority voters meaning she'd probably clean up down South as well. Grab some male whitey out of the rust belt (Tim Ryan?) and contrast that to then 75 year old mentally ill racist old geezer Chump. Based on what I've seen I would trust Harris to hold her own in a debate more than just about anybody else on the Dem side who's considering a bid.
I'd buy stock in Kamala Harris if I were a betting man. Checks all the boxes. Younger, non-white, aggressive, has govt experience, from CA which has lions share of Dem delegates, etc. Excites the base from the lefties to the women to the minority voters meaning she'd probably clean up down South as well. Grab some male whitey out of the rust belt (Tim Ryan?) and contrast that to then 75 year old mentally ill racist old geezer Chump. Based on what I've seen I would trust Harris to hold her own in a debate more than just about anybody else on the Dem side who's considering a bid.
unofan
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Assuming he loses to the Zodiac Killer, I could see Beto exploring his options. Hits many of the same boxes as Kamala and Obama.
ScoobyDoo
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She's a woman. I seriously doubt that she wins.
She's a woman. I seriously doubt that she wins.
ericredaxe
Veteran
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Harris might excite the left in the primaries, but would get creamed in the general. Need someone with the energy and demeanor of Beto... but probably too soon for Beto.. especially if he does not pull out his current race (which is looking like more and more of a long shot based on recent poling)
Harris might excite the left in the primaries, but would get creamed in the general. Need someone with the energy and demeanor of Beto... but probably too soon for Beto.. especially if he does not pull out his current race (which is looking like more and more of a long shot based on recent poling)
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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That and there is a built in number of people in the Republican, Democrat, and independent groups that will never vote for a woman.
That and there is a built in number of people in the Republican, Democrat, and independent groups that will never vote for a woman.
ericredaxe
Veteran
Sadly, that is probably a legitimate concern.
D
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A woman might get emotional, do something rash like slap tarriffs on someone. Then start tweeting.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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We see it on display right now. Kavanaugh is on the Supreme Court and Dr. Ford is the new Anita Hill.
We see it on display right now. Kavanaugh is on the Supreme Court and Dr. Ford is the new Anita Hill.
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Meh, we heard the same thing when Obama ran about electing a black man. Anybody who excites the Dem base and gets them to turn out, whether they be male, female, black, white, brown or something in between is going to be in a strong position to win due to sheer numbers. There's more Dem leaners than GOP leaners. If you can get the Dems to turn out as Obama did you win.
Meh, we heard the same thing when Obama ran about electing a black man. Anybody who excites the Dem base and gets them to turn out, whether they be male, female, black, white, brown or something in between is going to be in a strong position to win due to sheer numbers. There's more Dem leaners than GOP leaners. If you can get the Dems to turn out as Obama did you win.
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Aside from winning a high profile race? If he wins in Texas his stock skyrockets. If he loses he's already behind the 8 ball for national office although he could end up being an attractive VP pick.
Aside from winning a high profile race? If he wins in Texas his stock skyrockets. If he loses he's already behind the 8 ball for national office although he could end up being an attractive VP pick.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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Uh, huh. And Clinton was a lock, right?
Uh, huh. And Clinton was a lock, right?
unofan
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If he wins, I don't see him running two years into his term. If he loses by a point or two in Texas, he still exceeded expectations in a red state and has wide national appeal.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: POTUS 45.41: We Need More Tax Cuts to pay for the Tax Cut
Yeah that is irrelevant.
Yeah that is irrelevant.
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