POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen

[busterman62]

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“History never repeats itself but it rhymes.”

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[rufus]

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bob-woodward-fear-trump-in-the-white-house-people-better-wake-up-to-whats-going-on-in-the-oval-office/

The most dangerous moment of the standoff, Woodward says, came when the president went to work on another tweet: "He drafts a tweet saying 'We are going to pull out dependents from South Korea ... Family members of the 28,000 people there.'"

That tweet was never sent, because of a back channel message from North Korea that it would regard a pullout of dependents as a sign the U.S. was preparing to attack. "At that moment there was a sense of profound alarm in the Pentagon leadership that, 'My God, one tweet and we have reliable information that the North Koreans are going to read this as an attack is imminent,'" Woodward said.

That close to military conflict, because of a simple tweet. But Sicatoka, Hovey, and Joe say we just need to relax and chill, everything's gonna be ok, because at least he's not throwing the press in jail.

 

[SJHovey]

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bob-woodward-fear-trump-in-the-white-house-people-better-wake-up-to-whats-going-on-in-the-oval-office/



That close to military conflict, because of a simple tweet. But Sicatoka, Hovey, and Joe say we just need to relax and chill, everything's gonna be ok, because at least he's not throwing the press in jail.

That story makes no sense.

So Trump drafts a tweet. Then what? He doesn't send it out? Does he show it to someone first to get it vetted? What happens? Someone runs it by the North Koreans, or at least tells them about it? All this while the unposted tweet is sitting there on his phone?

Supposedly then North Korea sends a back channel message about a tweet that hasn't been sent out and that they haven't seen (?) saying that if he sends that tweet out they'll consider an attack imminent? But they don't consider the fact that he's drafting such a tweet a sign that an attack is imminent?

 

[rufus]

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That story makes no sense.

So Trump drafts a tweet. Then what? He doesn't send it out? Does he show it to someone first to get it vetted? What happens? Someone runs it by the North Koreans, or at least tells them about it? All this while the unposted tweet is sitting there on his phone?

Supposedly then North Korea sends a back channel message about a tweet that hasn't been sent out and that they haven't seen (?) saying that if he sends that tweet out they'll consider an attack imminent? But they don't consider the fact that he's drafting such a tweet a sign that an attack is imminent?

I think your last line pretty much says exactly what NK was thinking.

Keep making excuse for this president's erratic behavior. Nothing bad will come of it.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: POTUS 45.40: If You Need a Lawyer, Don't Hire Michael Cohen

That story makes no sense.

So Trump drafts a tweet. Then what? He doesn't send it out? Does he show it to someone first to get it vetted? What happens? Someone runs it by the North Koreans, or at least tells them about it? All this while the unposted tweet is sitting there on his phone?

Supposedly then North Korea sends a back channel message about a tweet that hasn't been sent out and that they haven't seen (?) saying that if he sends that tweet out they'll consider an attack imminent? But they don't consider the fact that he's drafting such a tweet a sign that an attack is imminent?

How does NK know about an unsent Tweet?

 

[aparch]

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It makes perfect sense. Let's review the timeline:

- Trunp had droned on publicly for days (weeks?) about how he hated having US troops stationed in South Korea, and wanted them returned home.

- Trump also Tweeted that he would give NK a world of hurt if they kept up their antics.

- General "Rules of War" are that when sh** goes down in foreign land, you get your assets out of the situation prior to commencing your plan.

- Somewhere in North Korea, someone had the foresight to remind US diplomats that "hey, that pesky problem of yanking your people out of South Korea can be mistaken for an act of aggression..."

- Trump, mid-sh** starts Twooping that he's going to remove US citizens from South Korea.

- Eric Jr innocently asks "Whatcha doin' daddy?" as he steps into the men's room with Trump.

- Trump says "You wouldn't understand it. We're going to pull the dependents from South Korea," where someone from the state department overhears this while *also* using the restroom.

-State Department makes sure Trump's Tweet is deleted and never posted.

 

[SJHovey]

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How does NK know about an unsent Tweet?

That's my question. If everything I've read here is true, he gets up at 3 in the morning and writes angry tweets. Does the WH have someone sitting beside him watching what he types out on his phone, then relaying it to the pentagon who in turn relays it to NK?

 

[SJHovey]

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It makes perfect sense. Let's review the timeline:

- Trunp had droned on publicly for days (weeks?) about how he hated having US troops stationed in South Korea, and wanted them returned home.

- Trump also Tweeted that he would give NK a world of hurt if they kept up their antics.

- General "Rules of War" are that when sh** goes down in foreign land, you get your assets out of the situation prior to commencing your plan.

- Somewhere in North Korea, someone had the foresight to remind US diplomats that "hey, that pesky problem of yanking your people out of South Korea can be mistaken for an act of aggression..."

- Trump, mid-sh** starts Twooping that he's going to remove US citizens from South Korea.

- Eric Jr innocently asks "Whatcha doin' daddy?" as he steps into the men's room with Trump.

- Trump says "You wouldn't understand it. We're going to pull the dependents from South Korea," where someone from the state department overhears this while *also* using the restroom.

-State Department makes sure Trump's Tweet is deleted and never posted.

So someone in NK correctly guesses exactly what Trump is going to tweet and warns the pentagon or state department he better not send it?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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So someone in NK correctly guesses exactly what Trump is going to tweet and warns the pentagon or state department he better not send it?

Or they were informed ahead of time by the State Dept.

 

[aparch]

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Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if Trump's phone *is* a Huawei phone compromised by Chinese and Russian intelligence and they tipped off NK and the State Department.

But NK having reminded the US that any troop/family draw down could be seen as an act of aggression; and someone politely reminding Trump about that before he hit post on his Tweet makes more sense.

 

[SJHovey]

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Or they were informed ahead of time by the State Dept.

So the State Department guessed what Trump was going to tweet and warned NK?

I don't have a twitter account, but doesn't it basically operate like posting something here, or sending a text? You type it and then send it?

How exactly did this tweet get prevented? I thought that was the funny part about all of Trump's tweets. They're basically impossible to stop because he sends them out, and then the staff spends the next two weeks walking them back? How did this one work differently?

 

[SJHovey]

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Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if Trump's phone *is* a Huawei phone compromised by Chinese and Russian intelligence and they tipped off NK and the State Department.

But NK having reminded the US that any troop/family draw down could be seen as an act of aggression; and someone politely reminding Trump about that before he hit post on his Tweet makes more sense.

I suppose, but doesn't that then mean someone is seeing his Tweet's ahead of time, or someone is vetting them or something?

 

[rufus]

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So someone in NK correctly guesses exactly what Trump is going to tweet and warns the pentagon or state department he better not send it?

I would assume since it was said he "drafted" a tweet, he farmed it out to the communications staff, and not one of his unhinged early morning rantings. If you read his tweets, you can tell that some are obviously written by someone other than him. They sound almost sane and dignified.


Staff gets advice from others, maybe state and defense, about the content and the wording, they get word to maybe SK, who sends it on to NK, and then you get the NK response. It's not that hard to imagine.

 

[SJHovey]

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I would assume since it was said he "drafted" a tweet, he farmed it out to the communications staff, and not one of his unhinged early morning rantings. If you read his tweets, you can tell that some are obviously written by someone other than him.


Staff gets advice from others, maybe state and defense, about the content and the wording, they get word to maybe SK, who sends it on to NK, and then you get the NK response. It's not that hard to imagine.

See that I would believe. Honestly I don't think very many of his tweets, if any, actually get reviewed before they are posted, at least not by anyone with any common sense. But if he drafted a tweet about pulling family members out of SK, then had it reviewed by State or the Pentagon and they shot it down, I get it. But that's a little different story than Woodward presents it as. In fact, what you propose is probably the way it's supposed to work. The President comes up with a stupid plan, runs it by someone with more common sense than he, they shoot it down and the tweet doesn't get sent out.

 

[aparch]

I suppose, but doesn't that then mean someone is seeing his Tweet's ahead of time, or someone is vetting them or something?

I would think Trump said something about "I'm going to say that we need to remove the families first," and someone told him that it wasn't a good idea.

Or jingles car keys in front of him while they grabbed the phone to delete the tweet before it was sent.

Or shot him with with a tranq dart.

Whichever visual makes you laugh the hardest.

 

[SJHovey]

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Bob Woodward is about selling books. That's it. Good on him. He started, as a journalist, working in a low paying but important job, and he's turned it into a financial goldmine. I congratulate him for it. But crisis sells books. Fear sells books. If the public thinks the book is filled with hundreds of stories of staff members hurling themselves across the office to shove Trump's thumb from the big red button, Bob's going to sell a lot of books.

 

[burd]

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Bob Woodward is about selling books. That's it. Good on him. He started, as a journalist, working in a low paying but important job, and he's turned it into a financial goldmine. I congratulate him for it. But crisis sells books. Fear sells books. If the public thinks the book is filled with hundreds of stories of staff members hurling themselves across the office to shove Trump's thumb from the big red button, Bob's going to sell a lot of books.

Perhaps, but he apparently still has a very good reputation regarding his journalistic standards.

I have no cite for that.

Thing is, the essence of what he is saying is consistent with stuff we've been reading for more than a year--from a wide variety of sources.

I have no cite for that either.

I should write a book.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Bob Woodward is about selling books. That's it. Good on him. He started, as a journalist, working in a low paying but important job, and he's turned it into a financial goldmine. I congratulate him for it. But crisis sells books. Fear sells books. If the public thinks the book is filled with hundreds of stories of staff members hurling themselves across the office to shove Trump's thumb from the big red button, Bob's going to sell a lot of books.

I have an idea. Run the administration in a way that he has nothing exciting to write about. How about that?

Sure is a lot different than his Obama books.

 

[rufus]

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19 days since we've had a WH press briefing.

It's almost like they don't want to answer questions about the current news.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/19-days-since-last-daily-press-briefing

It has been 19 days since the last time Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders took reporters’ questions for the “daily” White House press briefing, as an ABC reporter noted.


According to an ABC report,Sanders spent a combined three hours and 58 minutes behind the podium during 13 appearances for the entirety of June, July and August.
For perspective, per ABC: Obama administration press secretary Josh Earnest and his deputy totaled 39 hours across 35 on-camera press briefings during the summer of 2016. Bush spokespeople totaled nine hours and 24 minutes across 32 press briefings during the summer of 2008, per ABC.

Transparency.

 

[Rover]

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Lost respect for Chuck Todd today. He has Kellyanne on. I really don't get it.

Why in God's name did you ever have respect for Chuck "its not the press' job to correct GOP Obamacare falsehoods" Todd?