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POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?

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More lies. It was never intended nor used for classified information. Period. End of Story. You're buying the Republican story. Sad.

And, for that matter. Not a single email marked TOP SECRET was found. All they found was a couple of paragraphs that had been cut and pasted from a classified document. Is that wrong, sure. But, it wasn't intended and it was never proven that it was either.
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You mean like when Mr. Obama's AG met one-on-one with the spouse of someone under an open investigation? (Think: Phoenix airport)

That's my point. Were you outraged then? That wasn't a National security issue either
 
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More lies. It was never intended nor used for classified information. Period. End of Story. You're buying the Republican story. Sad.

And, for that matter. Not a single email marked TOP SECRET was found. All they found was a couple of paragraphs that had been cut and pasted from a classified document. Is that wrong, sure. But, it wasn't intended and it was never proven that it was either.

She set up a private email account for Government business. The FOIA impacts alone are problematic, and, to me disqualifying.

That's before the questions of how did that email address get whitelisted come up.

President Obama’s high-security BlackBerry used a special process known as “whitelisting” that only allowed it to take calls and messages from pre-approved contacts, two former senior intelligence officials with knowledge of the set-up told Fox News – pointing to the detail as further proof the White House knew Hillary Clinton’s private account was used for government business.
 
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Some low-level classified info was maybe stored improperly.

Compare that to a goddam mole in the west wing. Pardon me if I don't conflate Hilary's crimes against humanity with that.
 
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You're splitting hairs.

No, my problem was the use of the private account for public, government business. (Think: FOIA discovery)


Does your boss let you use your personal gmail/hotmail/yahoo email for work communications? No. Why? Well, for starters, Sarbanes-Oxley.
 
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No, my problem was the use of the private account for public, government business. (Think: FOIA discovery)

Depends on what the business was. I understand your concern but the woman was investigated and under oath for 10 hours and they got NOTHING. I'd tend to give someone after all that the benefit of the doubt.
 
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Meanwhile, this is impeachable.

From the NY Times:
Breaking News: President Donald J. Trump knew for weeks that Michael Flynn wasn’t truthful about his Russian calls, his spokesman said, leading to his firing.

That is complete and utter disregard for the American People, our system of government, and the rule of law. To leave a liar like that in a National Security position for that long after knowing is inexcusable.

Sally Yates was fired immediately. What did she do exactly? Oh, that's right. Nothing wrong. Just ticked off Orangeman.
 
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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...calls-independent-flynn-investigation-n720666

Congressional Democrats are calling for a broader probe into the chain of events that led to National Security Adviser Michael Flynn's late night resignation while Republicans insist that the Senate is already equipped to examine the complete account of his departure.

"We have standing committees in the Senate that have all the appropriate clearances to do the investigations," said Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, the second-highest ranking Republican in the Senate. "We'll follow the investigation wherever it leads."

Yet these idiots formed a special committee for Benghazi. John Cornyn can burn in hell.
 
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Meanwhile, this is impeachable.

From the NY Times:

That is complete and utter disregard for the American People, our system of government, and the rule of law. To leave a liar like that in a National Security position for that long after knowing is inexcusable.

Sally Yates was fired immediately. What did she do exactly? Oh, that's right. Nothing wrong. Just ticked off Orangeman.

I am sure Ryan is pleased he just got caught lying...he does know he can be fired too right?
 
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I am sure Ryan is pleased he just got caught lying...he does know he can be fired too right?

Paul Ryan? What did he lie about? Or did he get swept up in the same **** Pence did?

EDIT: just saw a teaser clip of Mitch with Joe from Morning Joe. Good old Mitch blows off the whole Russia thing as nothing.
 
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Oh stop it. We know as much has been leaked to the press in an effort to do what congress refuses to do.

There is absolutely no way this is a nothingburger. Your NSA doesn't resign unless there's a serious ****-up and you scramble to CYA.

If that's all there was to it, we wouldn't be talking about this today and the FBI and something like five other agencies wouldn't be investigating his entire administration.

There's a reason Yates warned the administration that Flynn might be compromised.
The only thing agencies seem remotely interested in investigating is whether Flynn lied, and who knew about it and when.

That's fine. I have no problem investigating it. If he lied, he ought to have been fired (or allowed to resign).

But it still doesn't answer my question, which is exactly what was the conversation about. You say it's not a "nothingburger." Ok. What was it?

Or maybe more significantly, what could it have been?

We know it was about the sanctions. I think that leaves us with three broad possibilities.

1. The conversation was nothing. It was basically something like, "Don't worry about it Sergey. The Trump administration will be much friendlier than the current administration."

I'm going to assume, and hope, this is not it. If it's that type of call, then the stupidity of lying about it is equaled only by the stupidity of spending as much time on this issue as we are. But, on the other hand, we are dealing with people in the administration and the media who presently have no capacity to think clearly or cogently, so there is a chance.

2. USCHO posters' wet dream. Scenario #2, which most of you are hoping for, involves a call in which Flynn and the Russian discuss in detail the intricate steps the Russians took to hack the U.S. election, all with the knowledge and co-planning of the Trump campaign and the RNC. I don't want to dash your hopes, but good luck with this.

3. Most likely scenario. My money is on a call in which Flynn told the Russian representative that Trump would review the sanctions placed by Obama, and as soon as Trump had the power, he would likely reverse or modify them.

Ok. That's arguably a violation of the Logan Act, but there is no chance even a Democratically appointed U.S. Attorney would prosecute it. It's even arguably unacceptable, but not really. If the same call was placed 3 weeks later there is no problem.

But hey, even if your wet dream was dashed, at least everyone got to post all their email pictures again, right?
 
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