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POTUS 45.39: Dick Pictures for Everyone!!!!!!!

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m speechless &#55357;&#56886;! To watch this Georgia state senator justify the president’s use of the N-word has my mind spinning on this morning. Is this where we are now as a country...or is this where we’ve always been? &#55358;&#56614;&#55356;&#57341;*♂️&#55358;&#56631;&#55356;&#57341;*♂️ <a href="https://twitter.com/CNN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CNN</a> <a href="https://t.co/73kWMvs7b3">pic.twitter.com/73kWMvs7b3</a></p>— Patrick Maxwell (@PastorMaxwell) <a href="https://twitter.com/PastorMaxwell/status/1030798860342452226?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Doublespeak is fun. So Trump, as a "person" (I use the term loosely) might be a racist, but even if he is, that's irrelevant because he's not a racist when he performs the duties of the office. Oooooooookay.
 
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Doublespeak is fun. So Trump, as a "person" (I use the term loosely) might be a racist, but even if he is, that's irrelevant because he's not a racist when he performs the duties of the office. Oooooooookay.

Yeah that hurt my brain to listen too...
 
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So apparently Don McGahn has been cooperating with the Mueller probe.

From the president:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The failing <a href="https://twitter.com/nytimes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nytimes</a> wrote a Fake piece today implying that because White House Councel Don McGahn was giving hours of testimony to the Special Councel, he must be a John Dean type “RAT.” But I allowed him and all others to testify - I didn’t have to. I have nothing to hide......</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1031134125602820096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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This is so hard to unpack.

It's fake, but he allowed it? W t f?
 
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So apparently Don McGahn has been cooperating with the Mueller probe.

From the president:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The failing <a href="https://twitter.com/nytimes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nytimes</a> wrote a Fake piece today implying that because White House Councel Don McGahn was giving hours of testimony to the Special Councel, he must be a John Dean type “RAT.” But I allowed him and all others to testify - I didn’t have to. I have nothing to hide......</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1031134125602820096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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This is so hard to unpack.

It's fake, but he allowed it? W t f?

Allowed it???? That line by itself sure seems to be indication of intent to obstruct justice.
 
Re: POTUS 45.39: Dick Pictures for Everyone!!!!!!!

So apparently Don McGahn has been cooperating with the Mueller probe.

From the president:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The failing <a href="https://twitter.com/nytimes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nytimes</a> wrote a Fake piece today implying that because White House Councel Don McGahn was giving hours of testimony to the Special Councel, he must be a John Dean type “RAT.” But I allowed him and all others to testify - I didn’t have to. I have nothing to hide......</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1031134125602820096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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This is so hard to unpack.

It's fake, but he allowed it? W t f?

Cooperating, as when Mueller asks him in for an interview, he shows up? Or cooperating as in ratting out the boss?

The fact is, it's the former, but in the article, good ol' Maggie attempts to portray it as the latter. McGahn's just in CYA mode.
 
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Dean responded Nixon allowed him to speak as well just assumed he wouldn't say anything.
 
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Truth is the new hate speech.

I think I know what he was TRYING to say* but if he can't articulate that...and he's my lawyer? He's fired on the spot.

*There are many versions of the truth according to the point of view, is what I think he was trying to say.

Either way, I don't know who's more senile: Rudy or Donny.
 
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It's fake, but he allowed it? W t f?


McGahn, as a close advisor to the President, would be someone covered by executive privilege, or more specifically, the Presidential communications privilege. (As opposed to say, deliberative process privilege, which extends further out from the President.) If the President chose to invoke this privilege, McGahn or other close advisors would be barred from testifying. In actual practice, they would seek the President's permission to testify or respond to a subpoena (for example) in order to give him the opportunity to invoke this privilege.

So basically the White House counsel can't just be compelled to testify about the President against the President's will without some major, major constitutional issues coming up. I think Trump saying he "allowed it" would actually be accurate in this case.
 
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Truth isn't truth.

One thing I think we can count as truth: Trump lies openly and constantly, on matters big and small.

Two more: No Republican politicians (not retiring) are willing to call him on it. Republican voters will still support him in the booth.
 
Re: POTUS 45.39: Dick Pictures for Everyone!!!!!!!

So apparently Don McGahn has been cooperating with the Mueller probe.

From the president:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The failing <a href="https://twitter.com/nytimes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nytimes</a> wrote a Fake piece today implying that because White House Councel Don McGahn was giving hours of testimony to the Special Councel, he must be a John Dean type “RAT.” But I allowed him and all others to testify - I didn’t have to. I have nothing to hide......</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1031134125602820096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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This is so hard to unpack.

It's fake, but he allowed it? W t f?
So he allowed the guy to perjure himself? I got a little lost in there but coherence is lost on this President.

And how are there various versions of truth? Wellll... he sort of reminds me of the demented patients that are parked by the Nursing Station that make up what ever seems to make sense to them at the time (look at developmental differences section)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation#Developmental_differences

or possibly the little kids who, when asked if they broke the window, relate what they wish happened, not what did. This one is shorter and gives a possible 'fix'

http://www.deficitattention.info/confabulation.html
 
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I get what Rudy was TRYING to say. 4 different people can witness an event, and each person will have their own point of view on what happened.

That being said, if Rudy can't articulate that...JeffC, that is *ing scary and no way I would want him as my lawyer. That's un-effing real.
 
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I get what Rudy was TRYING to say. 4 different people can witness an event, and each person will have their own point of view on what happened.

That being said, if Rudy can't articulate that...JeffC, that is *ing scary and no way I would want him as my lawyer. That's un-effing real.
Well, if it were you or me no one would ignore the blatant inconsistencies and downright lying coming out of our mouths, the threats to anyone who wanted to testify against us, the personal attacks and libeling. If anyone else were to do these things they would be toast.

Look at the description in the statement he had read revoking the Security privileges. Tell me he didn't write a description of himself that was so airtight it left no questions. He doesn't need anyone competent. He told us already he can shoot someone on 5th avenue and no one will care. And he has metaphorically shot a bunch of things and people with no repercussions. What would he need anyone legally competent for. He just needs someone to blow smoke outta their but at regular intervals so everyone gets their knickers in a twist.
 
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McGahn, as a close advisor to the President, would be someone covered by executive privilege, or more specifically, the Presidential communications privilege. (As opposed to say, deliberative process privilege, which extends further out from the President.) If the President chose to invoke this privilege, McGahn or other close advisors would be barred from testifying. In actual practice, they would seek the President's permission to testify or respond to a subpoena (for example) in order to give him the opportunity to invoke this privilege.

So basically the White House counsel can't just be compelled to testify about the President against the President's will without some major, major constitutional issues coming up. I think Trump saying he "allowed it" would actually be accurate in this case.

Right but then it wouldnt be fake...
 
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It's been said in these forums that too many democrats need to "fall in love" with their candidates. Stories like this one are a perfect illustration of that danger.

The hypocrisy of republicans is why they vote for candidates like trump or Roy Moore. The relatively comparative lack of it among many democratic voters might keep some from voting for a candidate like Randy Bryce, running for Paul Ryan's House seat in Wisconsin. For the next few years, and certainly for the next two elections (2018 and 2020) progressives and anyone who actually cares about the future of this country cannot afford to be that pure. Normally I'd say repeated transgressions like Bryce has exhibited would be disqualifying, but I'd take him over ANY sober republican even if Bryce was showing up on the House floor with a fifth of Jack in his suit coat pocket. The differences between the worst candidate the democrats are running for dog catcher and the best candidate the republicans are running for any office are that stark.

The republican party needs to be curb stomped. And when it goes down it needs voters to then stomp on its back and make its kidneys bleed, so that any and all ability to get up and fight will be gone. Only then at that point the handful of republicans in this country who are not either bigots or dupes can then begin to rebuild the party into something that actually is a patriotic political organization. If you care about the survival of anything resembling a democracy in the United States, no republican should get your vote. As long as it is allowed in your state, fill out the bubble near the top with the "D" next to it, or just run down the list and vote for anyone with the "D" next to their name. For the next few years we have to fight fire with fire. I am so sick of democrats who come to a gun fight without guns, hell they don't even come with knives. They come with identity politics and another letter affixed to the alphabet soup of inclusion, all the while conceding election after election to people who don't give the first 5h!t about anyone unless all those letters spell "R I C H A N D W H I T E."
 
Re: POTUS 45.39: Dick Pictures for Everyone!!!!!!!

It's been said in these forums that too many democrats need to "fall in love" with their candidates. Stories like this one are a perfect illustration of that danger.

The hypocrisy of republicans is why they vote for candidates like trump or Roy Moore. The relatively comparative lack of it among many democratic voters might keep some from voting for a candidate like Randy Bryce, running for Paul Ryan's House seat in Wisconsin. For the next few years, and certainly for the next two elections (2018 and 2020) progressives and anyone who actually cares about the future of this country cannot afford to be that pure. Normally I'd say repeated transgressions like Bryce has exhibited would be disqualifying, but I'd take him over ANY sober republican even if Bryce was showing up on the House floor with a fifth of Jack in his suit coat pocket. The differences between the worst candidate the democrats are running for dog catcher and the best candidate the republicans are running for any office are that stark.

The republican party needs to be curb stomped. And when it goes down it needs voters to then stomp on its back and make its kidneys bleed, so that any and all ability to get up and fight will be gone. Only then at that point the handful of republicans in this country who are not either bigots or dupes can then begin to rebuild the party into something that actually is a patriotic political organization. If you care about the survival of anything resembling a democracy in the United States, no republican should get your vote. As long as it is allowed in your state, fill out the bubble near the top with the "D" next to it, or just run down the list and vote for anyone with the "D" next to their name. For the next few years we have to fight fire with fire. I am so sick of democrats who come to a gun fight without guns, hell they don't even come with knives. They come with identity politics and another letter affixed to the alphabet soup of inclusion, all the while conceding election after election to people who don't give the first 5h!t about anyone unless all those letters spell "R I C H A N D W H I T E."

For some reason, the R party has convinced people that have a tiny thing to support them that the democratic party is so very evil that they are better off voting republican even though they don't represent their views what so ever.

A good example on this very board- see Drew.

So very afraid of gun rights that they ignore the horrible job R's do with the economy, how they rack up HUGE debts, cut taxes in areas that do nothing to the economy, etc . And now, they have deluded themselves to think that Russia is a friend of ours, lead by a good guy- former KGB agent Vlady.

But somehow, they are of such weak mind that the Democrat that wants to do everything they want is somehow going to do something really bad that they can't vote for them.

How is the IDEA of the thread of losing your guns worse than what we have now running the country. As it stands now, your kids will likely be far less off than you- as educations has been slashed to the bone, and most of your "wealth" will go to pay for your healthcare that you can't afford thanks to the fleecing R's are doing to you. Good think people like dumpy get a huge tax cut, isn't it?
 
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R's will automatically vote for social issues, Supreme Court (for social issues), and guns. And they will consider all Democrats the evil because of those issues. You will not convince them otherwise.

Dems will bail on any of their candidates for lack of purity.
 
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The republican party needs to be curb stomped. And when it goes down it needs voters to then stomp on its back and make its kidneys bleed, so that any and all ability to get up and fight will be gone. Only then at that point the handful of republicans in this country who are not either bigots or dupes can then begin to rebuild the party into something that actually is a patriotic political organization.

For the next few years we have to fight fire with fire. I am so sick of democrats who come to a gun fight without guns, hell they don't even come with knives. They come with identity politics and another letter affixed to the alphabet soup of inclusion, all the while conceding election after election to people who don't give the first 5h!t about anyone unless all those letters spell "R I C H A N D W H I T E."

1) So after 2008, we reached the point you described of the GOP being in shambles. Many assumed as you point out that they would 'rebuild' into something resembling a normal opposition party. What happened? Trump. The party will never be 'a patriotic political organization'.

2) There are many who advocate the Ds fighting fire with fire - sending in the attack dogs. But moderate Ds are turned off by Fox type rhetoric and align with more logical CNN...and the opportunity is to winning over the moderate independents. So rather than going into the gutter and being shrill like Nancy Pelosi, Elizabeth Warren and the Dean scream - we need to answer with strength and confidence that's more in line with early B Clinton, Obama and JFK.
 
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