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POTUS: 45.37: The Earth is Flat and the Babies Are Crying

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The "both sides are bad" numbnuts sitting on the sidelines are the reason why we have Trump. Thanks Brent.

How exactly is it Brent's fault we have Trump? He still lives in Minnesota which went to Hillary.
 
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I live in WI and voted for Hillary, and I could probably have done more. No, could certainly have done more. And it did matter.

What could you have done? You cant force others to choose to vote or vote the way you like. Hillary could have done more but there isnt much more as an individual you could have done.
 
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Yep. I'm not making that mistake again. Even in MN. I'm going to become far more active.

Yeats' words have been quoted here before:

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

I suppose everyone sees themselves as being included among "the best," but the conviction part is a wakeup call.
 
Its really hard to understand why some people just can’t get excited about either party right now.

That's part of the problem.

"Gee, ripping children away from their parents so they can't be together is terrible. And giving away our rights to corporations is awful.

But the other party candidate, who won't separate families and won't sell the country to the highest bidder, doesn't get my d!ck hard; so I guess I'll just not vote."
 
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How exactly is it Brent's fault we have Trump? He still lives in Minnesota which went to Hillary.

there are millions of Brents and they don't all live in Minnesota.

I'm not really singling him out for blame, but he represents the flawed thinking of a huge number of people. How hard is this to grasp?
 
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How exactly is it Brent's fault we have Trump? He still lives in Minnesota which went to Hillary.
The ironic part of his post is (assuming BassAle is actually located in Bar Harbor, ME) that his electoral vote went for Trump
 
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You're a big boy. I'm not here to tell you what emotions you can or cannot have.

Let's take a white supremacist, for instance. Someone asked the question whether it's ok to hate a white supremacist.

When I see a white supremacist, I don't hate them. I'm not going to waste my emotions, or cause myself to act in response to hatred I might then build up in my own mind.

What I see when I see a white supremacist is someone who, for reasons unknown to me, hates another person because of the color of their skin. Now, if they had just kept that hatred confined to their own minds, I might never have known about it, or that they are a white supremacist.

But that's what hatred does. It makes a person act irrationally, like going out and lighting crosses, marching in parades, attacking minorities physically, saying hurtful things, etc... That's why hatred is especially bad, because it makes people act in evil and non-positive ways.

So I'm not going to allow myself to "hate" a white supremacist, because that hatred might cause me to act in a way that I'll later wish I hadn't, or in a way that will affect my life adversely. For example, and in the extreme, maybe it causes me to go out and shoot a white supremacist.

So again, we're all free to think as we choose. But if someone were looking for advice from me, my suggestion would be to resist the urge to "hate" and instead channel those emotions into having a positive impact on the world.

Again, you are making the same result out of the apparent hate.

White supremacists want actual harm done to anyone not white. We all know this, it has strong standing in history. It's been shown in various forms over the generations, but there's no hiding that they want to harm people who are not white.

The people who hate that just want to prevent it. I'm not aware of any movement where the anti-supremacists are trying to lynch or beat up or physically harm them, other than the groups that are willing to stand up and fight them when they gather up. What is wanted is that these groups of people are prevented in doing that. So that means penalties for doing what they do are harsh enough to prevent them from doing it. Not killing them, but prevent them from harming others.

Again, the desired outcome is very different.

Just like now, dumpy wants to prevent Muslims from finding refuge here in the US from other Muslims that are trying to kill them. And dumpy wants to prevent Hispanics from getting out of their horrible situation in Central America- and he's doing whatever he can to prevent them from finding safety here in the US. And dumpy and co are doing what they can to suppress minority voter turn out.

There's direct action to harm people that are non-white.

The dumpy haters (such as myself) are not at all demanding any physical action against that side- we just want them to stop harming people they don't like. If they stopped, and actually recognized that the VAST majority of people who are coming here are just normal families looking for some kind of security, that would go a LONG way to ending the hate. If that was followed up by allowing the EPA to prevent companies from harming people for the sake of a dollar, that would also reduce the hate. And if he ACTUALLY stopped the rather obvious corruption, that would stop the hate.

If you CHOOSE to equate the hate for the sake of equating hate, then, IMHO, you are being incredibly lazy and not wanting to see what some of us see. Nor do you accept that one side's "hate" does not really mean that they want to bring harm onto others, like one side clearly does.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Flake: I won't oppose Trump's Supreme Court pick over tariffs <a href="https://t.co/mseUsNWFDM">https://t.co/mseUsNWFDM</a> <a href="https://t.co/9d6BohZBs9">pic.twitter.com/9d6BohZBs9</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1012357736737202176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Can the media now stop pretending this dude is some kind of crusader. He is a coward and is so unpopular in his home state he is quitting he has zero conviction or conscience.
 
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The ironic part of his post is (assuming BassAle is actually located in Bar Harbor, ME) that his electoral vote went for Trump

why would I lie about living in Bar Harbor? well the two statewide votes went for Hillary, so 2/3 of my electoral votes that my vote influenced went to Hillary. my town voted around 72% for Hillary. The only municipality in Maine that was more lop sided for Hillary was Portland. I'm sure there were plenty of Brents in the second district of Maine.
 
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there are millions of Brents and they don't all live in Minnesota.

I'm not really singling him out for blame, but he represents the flawed thinking of a huge number of people. How hard is this to grasp?

You literally singled him out by saying "Thanks Brent".

You want to attack him for every word he says that is your choice, but then you better make sure your attacks make sense or you kind of look foolish.
 
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That's part of the problem.

"Gee, ripping children away from their parents so they can't be together is terrible. And giving away our rights to corporations is awful.

But the other party candidate, who won't separate families and won't sell the country to the highest bidder, doesn't get my d!ck hard; so I guess I'll just not vote."

But in Drew's case, no one with a D after their name is gonna make his dick hard anyway. Won't even make it twitch a little. No matter how much he likes to pretend that what this administration is doing bothers him.
 
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You literally singled him out by saying "Thanks Brent".

You want to attack him for every word he says that is your choice, but then you better make sure your attacks make sense or you kind of look foolish.

yes. I was serious when I said "thanks Brent".

Again, there are millions of Brents. Collectively they are to blame but no single person is to blame, obviously. However, he doesn't get a pass because he happened to live in MN. His "both sides are bad" shtick is getting old and by continuing to parrot that nonsense, he is definitely part of the problem and part of the reason why we have Trump.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"North Korea has no intention of giving up its nukes — and now we have proof" <a href="https://t.co/r80MyC6Nx9">https://t.co/r80MyC6Nx9</a> <a href="https://t.co/VR7uZ2sXFW">pic.twitter.com/VR7uZ2sXFW</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1012355460417179650?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Where is Timothy A to tell us how Trump's Summit was amazing and how it was going to really change things in North Korea?
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Conservative media folks are whining about Nazi comparisons -- they didn't seem to mind them so much with the Obama administration <a href="https://t.co/9lgpfCkoKP">pic.twitter.com/9lgpfCkoKP</a></p>— Media Matters (@mmfa) <a href="https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1011991783381831680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Re: POTUS: 45.37: The Earth is Flat and the Babies Are Crying

As I said before, only The Right are allowed to make Holocaust allusions.


Anyone else who dares make such an unfounded comparison are just crazed, hysterical, and uncivil.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Conservative media folks are whining about Nazi comparisons -- they didn't seem to mind them so much with the Obama administration <a href="https://t.co/9lgpfCkoKP">pic.twitter.com/9lgpfCkoKP</a></p>— Media Matters (@mmfa) <a href="https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1011991783381831680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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This can't be true, conservatives can't stand whiners.
 
But in Drew's case, no one with a D after their name is gonna make his dick hard anyway. Won't even make it twitch a little. No matter how much he likes to pretend that what this administration is doing bothers him.

Manchin and Brown are fine. I actually liked Obama for the most part.
 
Re: POTUS: 45.37: The Earth is Flat and the Babies Are Crying

it's really kinda sad and pathetic.

Obama administration policy doesn't just bend over and kiss Israel's azz? "He's marching them right to the doors of the ovens"

Trump administration actually seizes children from their families and holds them in "concentrated detention facilities", ie concentration camps. "Don't call them concentration camps"
 
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