Re: POTUS 45.35: Still Winning. Don't care if you're tired of winning.
Can you both please explain why this was a good idea, yet we told Iran to p*ss up a rope?
Iran and North Korea are both the same and different. They're both the same in their exposition: The leaders want help with gaining weapons while tyrannically ruling, and both were shown appeasement without anything in return from different American regimes (Clinton for NK, Obama for Iran), and now we have someone who stands up to both and defends our interests, instead of selling out the USA. Sure, it's about 20 years apart, and may have shown to you differently given your phrasing, but they're really the same situation.
Here's where the difference comes into play: North Korea actually wants strife to end. The Kim family recognizes that things aren't going well, and they have to look strong, especially considering they were still technically at war. They recognized a chance at this point (even if we had to make it clear), and you know what, CNN's interview with Dennis Rodman, I do actually believe that was sincere. Even Trump brought it up I believe it was within the last week, how much of the uneasiness was caused by a lack of diplomacy. By just picking up the phone, even if things don't work out (and it'd be naïve to believe they will in perpetuity, but we can at least take the initiative and not just leave it for granted), maybe we can actually come to some mutual terms of peace.
Iran, at least in terms of the Islamic order presently in charge, doesn't want peace. In fact, it's fairly obvious that several nations under the Islamic order don't want peace. It is in their religion to purge anyone and anything that does not follow their ways. Those who remember the reference to the Halls of Montezuma from the Marine hymn, our country was barely in our infancy, and we're already fighting them to protect our interests. This isn't just about us, either. The same held true for European explorers of Asia during the Renaissance, how they strove to find a way to the east by circumnavigation or even going around Africa, because the Middle East was so dangerous. The Spanish Inquisition was about removing the Islamic invasion of their nation. How about we also remember what happened in Tehran from 1979 to 1980. Could there be some Cold War influence in connection with oil for why Iran is seen in such a light? Perhaps. However, I don't believe Trump to be a vindictive person. If Iran wants to work something out where both sides gain benefit, I know the administration would take a meeting.
