POTUS 45.30: "Stormy Weather...It Keeps on Rainin' all the Time..."

[mookie1995]

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Been fake news for decades already... big whoop

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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I think you are right. You are also right in saying "fake news" is nothing new in politics.

That said, I think Trump has consciously pushed the narrative as a proactive defense of his own false statements, which have been open and constant. He hasn't shown much evidence of being smart, but his fake news narrative has been smart. Possibly nothing more than instinct, but it will serve him well.

It's the same scorched earth methods they use on government. They make the news look bad so then people think all news is bad. They make the government look bad so then all government looks bad. If the Republicans get their wish they will have destroyed everything good that government and news does for us every day.

 

[Kepler]

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It's the same scorched earth methods they use on government. They make the news look bad so then people think all news is bad. They make the government look bad so then all government looks bad. If the Republicans get their wish they will have destroyed everything good that government and news does for us every day.

Their drive is always to destroy any entity (government, science, media, education) than keeps the rich from doing anything they want to the rest of us. It's the same age-old push by the wealthy and powerful in any society for domination. Government was created to push back against the wealthy, which is why the right hates it so much. "Freedom" for them is the freedom of the powerful -- the rest of us can go screw. Government is the one protector of the freedom of the majority that's been invented; hence it is the bitter enemy of the plutes and their GOP servants.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Their drive is always to destroy any entity (government, science, media, education) than keeps the rich from doing anything they want to the rest of us. It's the same age-old push by the wealthy and powerful in any society for domination. Government was created to push back against the wealthy, which is why the right hates it so much. "Freedom" for them is the freedom of the powerful -- the rest of us can go screw. Government is the one protector of the freedom of the majority that's been invented; hence it is the bitter enemy of the plutes and their GOP servants.

Correct and well stated. And what this means is that all the voters out there that are voting Republican (outside the 33% obviously, or wherever that number is right now) don't understand this just like the Susan Sarandon's on the left don't understand the ramifications of what they did.

The Democrats would do well to educate people on this topic a little better than they have. Bernie has tried. Clinton to some effect tried. They both failed.

 

[Kepler]

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It's probably too late for us, but just as the American Innovation was the separation of church and state, the next America should add the separation of wealth and state. It should be fundamental to the Constitution that wealth be not permitted to interfere with government. That way has always led to exploitation, discrimination, corruption, and suffering.

It should be modeled after our first amendment prohibition on state religion: you can keep your wealth, but you can't use it to browbeat people and you definitely can't use it to influence democratic institutions. America may be succumbing to the sclerosis of the Briber Class, but the drive to put people on an equal footing is eternal, and the next incarnation will be even better than we were.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Its probably too late for us, but just as the American Innovation was the separation of church and state, the next America should add the separation of wealth and state. It should be fundamental to the Constitution that wealth be not permitted to interfere with government. That way has always led to exploitation, discrimination, corruption, and suffering.

It should be modeled after our first amendment prohibition on state religion: you can keep your wealth, but you can't use it to browbeat people and you definitely can't use it to influence democratic institutions. America may be succumbing to the sclerosis of the Briber Class, but the drive to put people on an equal footing is eternal, and the next incarnation will be even better than we were.

Yes, but the Conservative Supreme Court ****ed us on this and made money speech. You know the Court that most of the Conservatives that we communicate with every day on this board think is a bunch of liberal ****tards.

 

[Kepler]

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Yes, but the Conservative Supreme Court ****ed us on this and made money speech. You know the Court that most of the Conservatives that we communicate with every day on this board think is a bunch of liberal ****tards.

We always had the seeds of our destruction within us. We had our chance to disgorge them in 1861 but we f-cked it up.

 

[Kepler]

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The Onion explains it all to you.

 

[Handyman]

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Correct and well stated. And what this means is that all the voters out there that are voting Republican (outside the 33% obviously, or wherever that number is right now) don't understand this just like the Susan Sarandon's on the left don't understand the ramifications of what they did.

The Democrats would do well to educate people on this topic a little better than they have. Bernie has tried. Clinton to some effect tried. They both failed.

Dems dont want to believe they can be duped. They have too much pride in their brilliance.

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DHS secretary, Kirtsjen Nielsen, told Mexican govt the National Guard won't carry guns & will only provide logistical & other support. Just like in 2006 and 2010, they won't be allowed to make arrests, unless Congress changes rules (not likely)... a big show for Trump´s base</p>— Maria Pena (@mariauxpen) <a href="https://twitter.com/mariauxpen/status/981709207429885953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Just another fraud...Trump cant even Trump right.

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Poll: Trump approval drops to record low in March <a href="https://t.co/tI7DV9grPV">https://t.co/tI7DV9grPV</a> <a href="https://t.co/8ACMMbOov9">pic.twitter.com/8ACMMbOov9</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/981920157919563777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Kepler]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Poll: Trump approval drops to record low in March <a href="https://t.co/tI7DV9grPV">https://t.co/tI7DV9grPV</a> <a href="https://t.co/8ACMMbOov9">pic.twitter.com/8ACMMbOov9</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/981920157919563777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I love the Dumpies quoting Rasmussen in the Comments. I assume they don't know.

 

[rufus]

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We've now spent 18 months and counting trying to figure out the extent to which "fake news" influenced the outcome of the election.

actually, we're investigating whether one of the candidates was working with a foreign country to create and spread that fake news. but you put the nicest, generic, 'both sides' spin on it that you can. wouldn't expect anything different.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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I see Trump's Tariffs are ****ing over every Soybean farmer in the United States. As I remember every Soybean farm was colored RED on election day. I hope you all go bankrupt.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

I see Trump's Tariffs are ****ing over every Soybean farmer in the United States. As I remember every Soybean farm was colored RED on election day. I hope you all go bankrupt.

I can’t wait til they want more handouts from the gubmit

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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I can’t wait til they want more handouts from the gubmit

Isn't it the Republicans that always throw a hissy fit when it's farm bill time? If I'm an urban Rep or a Rep from a Blue State I ain't approving no more farm bills. Screw em.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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More good news on the Tariff front.

But by shielding consumers, Mr. Trump has put American manufacturers — a group he has championed — in the cross hairs of a potential global trade war. If the measures stand, along with China’s retaliatory tariffs, they could snuff out a manufacturing recovery just beginning to gain steam. “If you want to spare the consumer so you don’t get this massive backlash against your tariffs, then there goes manufacturing, because that’s what’s left,” said Monica de Bolle, an economist at the Peterson Institute for International Economics. “The irony is, you cannot spare manufacturing from anything because manufacturing is globally integrated. The sector sources its parts and components from all over the world.”

President ****tard is a moron.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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So, here's the scoop on the caravan that had Trump so ****ing scared he's sending the military to the border.

“There are 300 kids and 400 women,” he said. “Babies with bibs and milk bottles, not armaments. How much of a threat can they be?”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/...-trump-caravan.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Just tear the statue down.

 

[Kepler]

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Isn't it the Republicans that always throw a hissy fit when it's farm bill time? If I'm an urban Rep or a Rep from a Blue State I ain't approving no more farm bills. Screw em.

Exactly. The "small gubmint" conservatives have hidden behind Democrats who felt they needed to support those policies. But with the Members from those districts now all red we have no reason to rescue those dopes anymore. They're on their own; hope they enjoy Rand Paul's policies.

Blue collar whites abandoned the Democratic party; time for the feeling to be mutual. They can feed their kids on their racial resentment; no more government cheese for them.

 

[aparch]

I see Trump's Tariffs are ****ing over every Soybean farmer in the United States. As I remember every Soybean farm was colored RED on election day. I hope you all go bankrupt.

Forget where I saw the article from (NPR?) but they said that if there is an over abundance of soybeans because of the lack of exports from the US, farmers affected would likely reduce useable acres (selling for development) or would switch to corn crops.

Which, currently has very little profit margin which would evaporate with the over abundance of corn. And, thanks to corn subsidies, corn, ethanol, and corn based products would also be hurt by the sudden glut of corn crops.

Also, the article stated many of these farmers are still recovering from 2008 and don't have the savings necessary to switch from soybeans to another crop, which could lead to massive sell off of farms and farm land.