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POTUS 45.29: Eggs and Tweet Storms for Breakfast

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So basically, Tillerson says this.

And 12 hours later, he's fired.

There's totally no collusion, though. Nothing to see here, just getting rid of a disgruntled employee who didn't agree with POTUS' vision. Amiright?

He's proven collusion three times. Firing Comey. Firing Sexxy Rexxy. The Lester Holt interview. I don't see any other way to see it.
 
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No, they didn't. 90% of what their analysts produced said the WMD story was bullsh-t. Cheney et al. then cherry picked the 10% so they could justify their oil company war.
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I'm talking about what was publicly stated. Not necessarily what was true. We know the intelligence was at best flawed and at worst a lot of lies, but the international community believed Iraq was just about the threat Bush and the neo-cons here claimed he was.


Many believed the lies and flawed intelligence. I'm just pointing out how most of us here now believe many of these same agencies have THIS intelligence correct. I believe it. But I believed a lot of what they said in the 1990s and early 2000s as well. Especially when backed by other nation's assessments. You play with fire sometimes when you believe "history" too quickly.
 
Re: POTUS 45.29: Eggs and Tweet Storms for Breakfast

I'm talking about what was publicly stated. Not necessarily what was true. We know the intelligence was at best flawed and at worst a lot of lies, but the international community believed Iraq was just about the threat Bush and the neo-cons here claimed he was.



Many believed the lies and flawed intelligence. I'm just pointing out how most of us here now believe many of these same agencies have THIS intelligence correct. I believe it. But I believed a lot of what they said in the 1990s and early 2000s as well. Especially when backed by other nation's assessments. You play with fire sometimes when you believe "history" too quickly.

Who was the guy who was in charge of the team monitoring Iraq's weapons and who was telling everybody there were no weapons of mass destruction being produced or hidden. He was marginalized, as I recall, but he was in a position to know and he was proven correct.
 
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So are we officially on the Tillerson-Mattis-Mnuchin suicide pact watch?
 
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If Pompeo is the new SoS does that mean she's leaving Greys Anatomy too?!
 
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GOP, no. Just like I'm not quitting being a Catholic when there is a bad Pope.

tD is a bad comedy show. 3 things will happen
- he quits
- he gets tossed by the Congress
- he gets tossed by the voters

I said way back when that Biden would have won in an FDR/Nixon/Reagan landslide. The Dems ran (once again) the wrong candidate at the wrong time.

anybody else was the right choice vs Trump.

He is doing real damage to our country , Joe, but you blow it off because he _might_ get voted out. All republicans bear responsibility for letting their party turn into this.
 
trump is up to his ears in it with Russians of all stripes and types. He's laundered $$$ for them,probably for decades now. But I do occasionally remind myself that the CIA, NSA, FBI and basically most of their foreign counterparts also all agreed Iraq was hiding WMDs, so who the hell knows anything. We live in a funny world.

Also in addition to 5h!t-canning Tillerson, trump axed a long serving but mostly unknown personal assistant, someone named John McEntee. Escorted out of the White House yesterday without even being allowed to grab his suit jacket. Honest question, is there a single solitary person employed by this administration who is actually highly qualified for the job? I'm not counting communications people and press secretaries, since they are basically hired to spin and lie (in that regard he has a cabinet and administration FULL of people who can step right in to those jobs -- sort of like how every Marine is a rifleman so even if you have nothing left but cooks and trumpet players you can still have an effective fighting force), I'm talking about all of the people who are responsible for the inertial movement and direction of the government. Can anyone name even one hire that is not an embarrassment?

It won’t get anywhere near the coverage, but I think McEntee is the much, much bigger story here. What did they find that would lead him to be escorted out immediately? Hopefully it was just leaking stuff to the media and not something significantly worse.
 
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Tillerson officially out. Pompeo in

Oh good, the lady that ran Bush’s torture prisons is in as CIA Director.

Tillerson shouldn't have beeched out the Russians for poisoning that ex-spy. You do not say bad things about the Russians in Trumpy's administration.
 
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All republicans bear responsibility for letting their party turn into this.

All republicans ARE this. trump's base is virtually the entire party. This didn't happen against their wishes. In 2018 if you self identify as a republican, you are a trumper. This won't change even when the trump/Stormy Daniels sex tape comes out.
 
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It won’t get anywhere near the coverage, but I think McEntee is the much, much bigger story here. What did they find that would lead him to be escorted out immediately? Hopefully it was just leaking stuff to the media and not something significantly worse.

Or what did he find?
 
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All republicans ARE this. trump's base is virtually the entire party. This didn't happen against their wishes. In 2018 if you self identify as a republican, you are a trumper. This won't change even when the trump/Stormy Daniels sex tape comes out.

I don't understand people's disconnect. It's being reported every day that conservatives, evangelicals, and republicans in general are thrilled with what Trump is accomplishing. This IS the Republican party. Who knew they loved Russia so much? I didn't. But, after the War in Iraq and Afghanistan we should have known.
 
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All republicans ARE this. trump's base is virtually the entire party. This didn't happen against their wishes. In 2018 if you self identify as a republican, you are a trumper. This won't change even when the trump/Stormy Daniels sex tape comes out.

This. There's no deniability. If you're still a Republican this is you. You can't wheedle and whine that you didn't know. EVERYBODY knows because Dumpy doesn't even lie about it.

If you have the slightest conscience you can't remain part of this criminal gang. You don't have to become a Democrat or a Libertarian but you can't stay associated with the killers.

You don't have to go home but you can't stay here.
 
Re: POTUS 45.29: Eggs and Tweet Storms for Breakfast

All republicans ARE this. trump's base is virtually the entire party. This didn't happen against their wishes. In 2018 if you self identify as a republican, you are a trumper. This won't change even when the trump/Stormy Daniels sex tape comes out.

I agree, but Joe doesn't think so.
 
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I agree, but Joe doesn't think so.

Joe's just wrong and that's normal. What was the (Good German)-to-(Actual Nazi) ratio? 3:1? 5:1?

But "I was only following orders" isn't going to cut it at the Harrisburg Trials.
 
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I don't understand people's disconnect. It's being reported every day that conservatives, evangelicals, and republicans in general are thrilled with what Trump is accomplishing. This IS the Republican party. Who knew they loved Russia so much? I didn't. But, after the War in Iraq and Afghanistan we should have known.

It's the same dynamic that allows 90-95% of American voters say congress is horrible and doing a lousy job, but 90-95% of them get re-elected (or their party holds the seat) every single election. Very few of us will admit to even the most innocent of mistakes any more. There's no way we will admit to making a mistake about voting for trump. And it isn't that we just don't want family, friends or neighbors to know we cast a moronic vote, we convince ourselves of it. Everything is a delusion. We are all like 4 year olds who don't realize yet the TV is not a box with actual people in it. Shame in the right measure is a powerful tool or emotion capable of educating us. No one feels shame anymore. So trump voters are like "you bet your butt I voted for him. I'd do it again today if I could!" It will never be "wow, I never expected it could be this bad, and I hoped he just said things to get elected but I really believed he'd bring real jobs back and make the rest of the world respect us. Boy was I wrong. I'll be sure to look for a reasonable republican to support next time, and hopefully some common sense democrats get elected in 2018 to help keep trump in check."
 
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This. There's no deniability. If you're still a Republican this is you. You can't wheedle and whine that you didn't know. EVERYBODY knows because Dumpy doesn't even lie about it.

If you have the slightest conscience you can't remain part of this criminal gang. You don't have to become a Democrat or a Libertarian but you can't stay associated with the killers.

You don't have to go home but you can't stay here.

As I've said a billion times, this is 1933 Germany, and joe and everyone else are the 'good Germans', not the brownshirts and the SS. People always say, why didn't anyone in Germany speak out and stop these atrocities before they happened?

Well, here we are. Time for the 'good Germans' to start speaking up. They ain't gonna listen to us Jews.
 
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As I've said a billion times, this is 1933 Germany, and joe and everyone else are the 'good Germans', not the brownshirts and the SS. People always say, why didn't anyone in Germany speak out and stop these atrocities before they happened?

Well, here we are. Time for the 'good Germans' to start speaking up. They ain't gonna listen to us Jews.

Exactly so.
 
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