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POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

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Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

So Comey didn't "unverified" the whole document.

That doesn't change my desire to see Schiff's memo. I want to see how the hot dogs are made.
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

That doesn't change my desire to see Schiff's memo. I want to see how the hot dogs are made.

Then you want to see the Steele Dossier itself.

The memos are just working papers between staffers. They don't mean anything, and often they are strategic notes about how to play the angles or for the dumber Members idiot hit pieces created to give the boss talking points, e.g. the Nunes memo.

The only stuff that is valuable to the 99.99999% of us in the gen pop would be the first pass analysis. The raw intel is meaningless without context and aggregation. Everything after the first pass analysis is politically-driven garbage (recall Cheney's cherry-picking to justify the Iraq smash and grab).

And you don't want to see the first pass analysis because the aggregation of sources and methods will compromise our intelligence.

So: you don't want to see anything. You want Congress to exercise robust oversight and you want John Q. Public to concentrate on sportsball and t-tty bars.
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

So Comey didn't "unverified" the whole document.

That doesn't change my desire to see Schiff's memo. I want to see how the hot dogs are made.

Agreed. It's kind of amusing, though, when you say you wish Trump would have released it. Did you think he would? Did you actually buy his "transparency" shtick?
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

I really wish Trump would've called for Schiff's memo also.

They can if they want to. Given the desperate attempts to cover up the Nunes memo, we pretty much already know what's going to be in the Schiff memo (i.e. more of the same we've been hearing in the news for the last 15 months), and just seems like a desperate distraction from the real problems of corruption.

BTW, Roger Stone is reporting that Mike Flynn's lawyers are setting motions to dismiss his case on the account of the Nunes memo.
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

Ehhh I'm not so sure this isn't the time to press. The memo has started to break up the GOP. Until the memo pretty much everyone was willing to at least remain silent and passively support Trump, but this was a step too far for some and now you are starting to see the cracks. Those who were willing to say nothing before aren't able to remain quiet and are calling the memo out for what it was. I say keep pushing on that, make them take a stand on one side or the other.

Every time something breaks that is awful someone says what you just said. There are no cracks...no division. Sure some are CYAing in case of catastrophe but they are still 100% behind Hair Fuhrer and they arent even really pretending otherwise.

Leave this alone...let them hang themselves. You dont need a killshot if they are jumping off the cliff already.
 
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Well even better than that...Nunes implies Schiff is the guy leaking stuff out of committee and right away Trump just happens to tweet about how Schiff is one of he biggest leakers in Washington. Someone should inform them if you dont want it to look like you are in cahoots you probably shouldnt say the same thing, randomly at the same time, about the guy who is going to take you down.

These guys think they are Meyer Lansky...in reality they are John Gotti. Well Teflon Don got away with it for a long time but sooner or later his Sammy "The Bull" will cut a deal and then end will be nigh.
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

NYT is asking the Justice Department to unseal the FISA application to settle all of this: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/05/...mes-carter-page-documents-request-unseal.html

WASHINGTON — The New York Times notified the Justice Department on Monday that it is asking the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to unseal secret documents related to the wiretapping of Carter Page, the onetime Trump campaign adviser at the center of a disputed memo written by Republican staffers on the House Intelligence Committee.

The motion is unusual. No such wiretapping application materials apparently have become public since Congress first enacted the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in 1978. That law regulates electronic spying on domestic soil — the interception of phone calls and emails — undertaken in the name of monitoring suspected spies and terrorists, as opposed to wiretapping for investigating ordinary criminal suspects.

Normally, even the existence of such material is a closely guarded secret. While applications for criminal wiretaps often eventually become public, the government has refused to disclose the contents of applications for intelligence wiretaps — even to defendants who are later prosecuted on the basis of information derived from them.

But President Trump lowered the shield of secrecy surrounding such materials on Friday by declassifying the Republican memo about Mr. Page, after finding that the public interest in disclosing its contents outweighed any need to protect the information. Because Mr. Trump did so, the Times argues, there is no longer a justification “for the Page warrant orders and application materials to be withheld in their entirety,” and “disclosure would serve the public interest.”
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

Now. Trump really needs to classify it into super secrecy. No Democratic Memo. No release of this information. Double Down, Trump. Double Down.
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

Now. Trump really needs to classify it into super secrecy. No Democratic Memo. No release of this information. Double Down, Trump. Double Down.

He will probably equate the request to treason and Nunes will remarkably say the same thing...
 
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Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

When Dr. Mrs. first heard about the whole memo poutrage she asked, "if the Republicans are genuinely concerned there was wrongdoing* why don't they just subpoena the FISA judge?"

* Spoiler: they're not.

Not yet, at least. Anything can happen behind closed doors, or more appropriately, "under the swampy waters". The whole purpose of the recent events is to expose to the public what is happening in order to gain support as such and place pressure for these investigations. Sure, those exposed will do anything they can to spin it, as I've been reading in the past few pages, but what Nunes and the like did was take the swamp's/media's game and throw it right back at them.
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

Comey didn't call the entire dossier "salacious and unverified". He was referring to one part--the only part that "salacious", by definition, could refer to.

Here's some background from a well known liberal rag:
https://www.redstate.com/patterico/2018/01/02/comey-really-testify-entire-steele-dossier-unverified/

Sicatoka would never be one to mischaracterize what someone said to try to win apolitical point. He looks at issues from both sides, don'tcha know.
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

Not yet, at least. Anything can happen behind closed doors, or more appropriately, "under the swampy waters". The whole purpose of the recent events is to expose to the public what is happening in order to gain support as such and place pressure for these investigations. Sure, those exposed will do anything they can to spin it, as I've been reading in the past few pages, but what Nunes and the like did was take the swamp's/media's game and throw it right back at them.

Your party voted to keep the same FISA process they already had. Now they're whining about the results from the existing law? The fact that you parrot Nunes (a complete idiot) is telling.
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

When Dr. Mrs. first heard about the whole memo poutrage she asked, "if the Republicans are genuinely concerned there was wrongdoing* why don't they just subpoena the FISA judge?"

* Spoiler: they're not.

To go along with that: If they were really concerned that there were problems in the FISA warrant application process, why did they just overwhelmingly reauthorize the statute, with no changes made?
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

To go along with that: If they were really concerned that there were problems in the FISA warrant application process, why did they just overwhelmingly reauthorize the statute, with no changes made?

That's what I want to know.
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

To go along with that: If they were really concerned that there were problems in the FISA warrant application process, why did they just overwhelmingly reauthorize the statute, with no changes made?

To use it against those that abused it is all that I can see. As much as turnabout can be fair play, it is not a good way to go forward with it.
 
Re: POTUS 45: 28 - Yo Memo So Stupid, Donald Renamed it "Eric"

So, deficits hawks. Whaddya think?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/02/03/the-u-s-government-is-set-to-borrow-nearly-1-trillion-this-year/?utm_term=.335aec04af8f

It was another crazy news week, so it's understandable if you missed a small but important announcement from the Treasury Department: The federal government is on track to borrow nearly $1 trillion this fiscal year — Trump's first full year in charge of the budget.
That's almost double what the government borrowed in fiscal year 2017.
Here are the exact figures: The U.S. Treasury expects to borrow $955 billion this fiscal year, according to documents released Wednesday. It's the highest amount of borrowing in six years, and a big jump from the $519 billion the federal government borrowed last year.]

Trump's Treasury forecasts borrowing over $1 trillion in 2019 and over $1.1 trillion in 2020. Before taking office, Trump described himself as the “king of debt,” although he campaigned on reducing the national debt.

But we desperately needed to give millionaires a $1.5 trillion tax cut.
 
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