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POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within

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The Sicatoka said:
Did folks think a President that mocks those who "cling to their Bibles" (paraphrased) could be elected?
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Ahh, so he "mocked" them.

It's characterizations like that from you that belie your claims to be being able to see and discuss issues from both sides of the political spectrum. And why you're such a hypocrite.
 
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rufus said:
Ahh, so he "mocked" them.
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How would you characterize it?

And yes, I work, and I travel because of it.
And when I'm on a job site I'm not < bleeping > around on the internet. (In my home office is another story. ;) )

Oh, and since you're so concerned, I'm on the road for my primary job at 0500 and won't be back until Monday. (I'd tell you I was gone most of yesterday because of a meeting of a board I serve on, and I'm leaving soon to give a lecture at a local university, but you'd probably find a way to deride me for all of it.)
 
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The Sicatoka said:
How would you characterize it?

And yes, I work, and I travel because of it.
And when I'm on a job site I'm not < bleeping > around on the internet. (In my home office is another story. ;) )

Oh, and since you're so concerned, I'm on the road for my primary job at 0500 and won't be back until Monday. (I'd tell you I was gone most of yesterday because of a meeting of a board I serve on, and I'm leaving soon to give a lecture at a local university, but you'd probably find a way to deride me for all of it.)
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Why don't you read the entire quote. There was nothing mocking about it--it was more the tone of an extremely condescending professor.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
How would you characterize it?
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"They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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Sounds to me like a pretty astute assessment of what people down on their luck might turn to to try tomaintain some semblance of who they were and where they come from. And when you look further into it, it reveals why some of them could be receptive to the message that a con man like Trumpy would offer them.

You see anything mocking in the tone of that quote, you let me know.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
First term (two-years into six-year term) US Senator. A man that the country had little knowledge of or experience with. Historically, that's not very conventional. He set the stage for someone with no (gubernatorial* or Congressional) experience.

Unconventional candidates.


*I've previously stated I prefer Presidents to have been governors so we can see how they interact, as Executive, with the other branches of government. And note that of the 2016 candidates neither had gubernatorial track record and that's why I took a pass.
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Lincoln was a middling-at-best nobody from the rural Midwest before he became POTUS. Care to try again?
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Lincoln was a middling-at-best nobody from the rural Midwest before he became POTUS. Care to try again?
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Lincoln was well known in political circles after the Springfield Young Men's Lyceum speech in 1838, more than 20 years before he ran for president, and in the 1840s he publicly fenced with Polk over the Mexican-American War. He was marked out as a "young man in a hurry" much like JFK, Clinton, Obama, and Rubio were. In 1856 he was placed in nomination for VP, and then in 1858 there were the debates with Douglas.

He was not a nobody by any means. He was in fact far more well known for longer than Obama. I'd say Obama is the closest thing we've ever had to a true shooting star president.
 
Kepler said:
Lincoln was well known in political circles after the Springfield Young Men's Lyceum speech in 1838, more than 20 years before he ran for president, and in the 1840s he publicly fenced with Polk over the Mexican-American War. He was marked out as a "young man in a hurry" much like JFK, Clinton, Obama, and Rubio were. In 1856 he was placed in nomination for VP, and then in 1858 there were the debates with Douglas.

He was not a nobody by any means. He was in fact far more well known for longer than Obama. I'd say Obama is the closest thing we've ever had to a true shooting star president.
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Hmm, that was not mentioned in Team of Rivals. Just some failed businesses, and then becoming a lawyer, the Douglas debates (which he lost), and of course bedding with Joshua Speed, as was common back then. "Not that there's anything wrong with that." :D
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Hmm, that was not mentioned in Team of Rivals. Just some failed businesses, and then becoming a lawyer, the Douglas debates (which he lost), and of course bedding with Joshua Speed, as was common back then. "Not that there's anything wrong with that." :D
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Doris Kearns Goodwin : Historiography :: Joe Morgan :: Quantitative Analysis

Here is a brief list of people the public thinks of as scholars who were just celebrities with excellent press contacts:

1. Winston Churchill
2. Malcolm Gladwell
3. Shelby Foote
4. Doris Kearns Goodwin
5. Pat Buchanon
6. Any Podheretz
7. Any Kristol
8. VDH
9. Almost any Kagan (Donald was the real deal at Yale, Robert and Fred are idiots)
10. Anyone else who ever gave a TED talk
11. Anyone else who ever worked for Hoover, Brookings, Heritage, or Cato
12. Anyone else who ever held public office (even Pericles was kind of an idiot)
 
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Kepler said:
Lincoln was well known in political circles after the Springfield Young Men's Lyceum speech in 1838, more than 20 years before he ran for president, and in the 1840s he publicly fenced with Polk over the Mexican-American War. He was marked out as a "young man in a hurry" much like JFK, Clinton, Obama, and Rubio were. In 1856 he was placed in nomination for VP, and then in 1858 there were the debates with Douglas.

He was not a nobody by any means. He was in fact far more well known for longer than Obama. I'd say Obama is the closest thing we've ever had to a true shooting star president.
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I think he also built a bit of a reputation representing railroads too, didn't he? That was a big time client in those days.
 
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Kepler said:
Doris Kearns Goodwin : Historiography :: Joe Morgan :: Quantitative Analysis

Here is a brief list of people the public thinks of as scholars who were just celebrities with excellent press contacts:

1. Winston Churchill
2. Malcolm Gladwell
3. Shelby Foote
4. Doris Kearns Goodwin
5. Pat Buchanon
6. Any Podheretz
7. Any Kristol
8. VDH
9. Almost any Kagan (Donald was the real deal at Yale, Robert and Fred are idiots)
10. Anyone else who ever gave a TED talk
11. Anyone else who ever worked for Hoover, Brookings, Heritage, or Cato
12. Anyone else who ever held public office (even Pericles was kind of an idiot)
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So given that op-ed, which Lincoln biographies do you recommend so that we, the lowly Flyovers, might be enlightened? :p
 
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