mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
He got more than 30% a year and a half ago
He got 48 some % of those who voted.... you mean
Simple math
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POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within
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He got 48 some % of those who voted.... you mean
Simple math
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within
We can do the innuendo, we can dance and sing
When it's said and done, we haven't told you a thing
We can do the innuendo, we can dance and sing
When it's said and done, we haven't told you a thing
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within
It's going to be this way as long as the voters don't punish the party that unleashed this insanity. It used to be an article of faith that if a party became too fanatical in its Utopianism the voters would run in terror. It's still what we hear whenever we put forward even a slightly left-of-center idea. But the Republicans have now been a far right extremist party, bordering on a fascist regime, for 23 years, and they control all three branches and are dominant in state legislatures and governorships.
It is time to rethink the assumption that the US is a country of moderates. It may be a country of two hard fringes with nothing in the middle that only wants to think of itself as a nation of moderates because that seems safer and more stable.
It's going to be this way as long as the voters don't punish the party that unleashed this insanity. It used to be an article of faith that if a party became too fanatical in its Utopianism the voters would run in terror. It's still what we hear whenever we put forward even a slightly left-of-center idea. But the Republicans have now been a far right extremist party, bordering on a fascist regime, for 23 years, and they control all three branches and are dominant in state legislatures and governorships.
It is time to rethink the assumption that the US is a country of moderates. It may be a country of two hard fringes with nothing in the middle that only wants to think of itself as a nation of moderates because that seems safer and more stable.
Re: POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within
Not necessarily. One side is completely hard right but they all turn out and vote. The other side while maybe containing a more diverse set of opinions doesn't show up regularly. Republican voters show up to oppose Democrats winning elections. Dem leaners are perfectly happy to go 3rd party or stay home regardless of the stakes. Until that changes, the inmates will be running the asylum. It helps a bit that the GOP electorate is 99% grumpy old (60-80 years old especially) white people easily manipulated by fear and BS. While with Dems you're dealing with anything from hippies to former Republicans who realize their old party has gone batchit crazy.
Not necessarily. One side is completely hard right but they all turn out and vote. The other side while maybe containing a more diverse set of opinions doesn't show up regularly. Republican voters show up to oppose Democrats winning elections. Dem leaners are perfectly happy to go 3rd party or stay home regardless of the stakes. Until that changes, the inmates will be running the asylum. It helps a bit that the GOP electorate is 99% grumpy old (60-80 years old especially) white people easily manipulated by fear and BS. While with Dems you're dealing with anything from hippies to former Republicans who realize their old party has gone batchit crazy.
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Re: POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Democrats haven't really decided between:<br><br>Message 1—"The shutdown is Republicans' fault."<br>Message 2—"It's worth shutting down the government because DACA, etc. is so important."<br><br>Instead, there's been a roughly even mix of both. And those messages sort of contradict one another. <a href="https://t.co/wjAluDgbaj">https://t.co/wjAluDgbaj</a></p>— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/955481510701912064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Jesus Fu**ing Christ Dems. Get your sh** on the same page. At this rate, were looking at seven more years of Trump.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Democrats haven't really decided between:<br><br>Message 1—"The shutdown is Republicans' fault."<br>Message 2—"It's worth shutting down the government because DACA, etc. is so important."<br><br>Instead, there's been a roughly even mix of both. And those messages sort of contradict one another. <a href="https://t.co/wjAluDgbaj">https://t.co/wjAluDgbaj</a></p>— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/955481510701912064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Jesus Fu**ing Christ Dems. Get your sh** on the same page. At this rate, were looking at seven more years of Trump.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within
They're blowing it again. Anyone shocked? I can't wait until they pick a candidate in 2020 and half the caucus is ****ed off at the choice again.
They're blowing it again. Anyone shocked? I can't wait until they pick a candidate in 2020 and half the caucus is ****ed off at the choice again.
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Re: POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within
The Senator from Louisiana has summed up this shutdown nicely:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Senator Kennedy (R-LA) on the politics of the shutdown: "I think ardent Republicans think Republicans are winning and ardent Democrats think Democrats are winning. And everybody else in America is kind of wondering how folks up here made it through the birth canal."
</p>— Alan He (@alanhe) <a href="https://twitter.com/alanhe/status/955472226266042368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
The Senator from Louisiana has summed up this shutdown nicely:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Senator Kennedy (R-LA) on the politics of the shutdown: "I think ardent Republicans think Republicans are winning and ardent Democrats think Democrats are winning. And everybody else in America is kind of wondering how folks up here made it through the birth canal."
</p>— Alan He (@alanhe) <a href="https://twitter.com/alanhe/status/955472226266042368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Re: POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within
First of all, only available poll I've seen in the last day has GOP taking more of the blame than Dems. 41-36% or something like that also a 42/42 split on whether DACA is a worthwhile reason for shutdown.
However, a lot of this depends on if they (the Dems) are setting the table or not. Lets say they agree to 1) CHiP 6 year extension, 2) 3 week funding, and then 3) a timetable for a DACA vote. Okay great. So one priority done (CHiP) and one delayed for 3 weeks.
3 weeks from now, shut down the govt again if DACA isn't passed. This short timetable plays right into the Dems hands. Every 3 weeks keep demanding more and more. Then when the borrowing limit hits, that's when you go after forcing Chump to pay the ACA subsidies for low income people.
Now I'm not saying they will do this, but if they do 3 weeks from now we're in a similar place with CHiP already funded.
First of all, only available poll I've seen in the last day has GOP taking more of the blame than Dems. 41-36% or something like that also a 42/42 split on whether DACA is a worthwhile reason for shutdown.
However, a lot of this depends on if they (the Dems) are setting the table or not. Lets say they agree to 1) CHiP 6 year extension, 2) 3 week funding, and then 3) a timetable for a DACA vote. Okay great. So one priority done (CHiP) and one delayed for 3 weeks.
3 weeks from now, shut down the govt again if DACA isn't passed. This short timetable plays right into the Dems hands. Every 3 weeks keep demanding more and more. Then when the borrowing limit hits, that's when you go after forcing Chump to pay the ACA subsidies for low income people.
Now I'm not saying they will do this, but if they do 3 weeks from now we're in a similar place with CHiP already funded.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Re: POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within
Left unresolved is even if the Senate Republicans accept a DACA deal, the House, particularly leader Paul Ryan, has been awfully silent about this negotiation likely leading to a swift death of a DACA agreement in the House.
And all the Republicans can campaign on "See! Dems just cause trouble and shut us down for no reason."
Left unresolved is even if the Senate Republicans accept a DACA deal, the House, particularly leader Paul Ryan, has been awfully silent about this negotiation likely leading to a swift death of a DACA agreement in the House.
And all the Republicans can campaign on "See! Dems just cause trouble and shut us down for no reason."
Re: POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within
Lucy used to be a heartless biotch, but she's different now.
Lucy used to be a heartless biotch, but she's different now.
Re: POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within
We'll find out in 3 weeks. If Senate comes up with a bill, and House doesn't take it up, put the screws to them in the next shutdown. We're not talking next year. We're talking Feb 8th.
We'll find out in 3 weeks. If Senate comes up with a bill, and House doesn't take it up, put the screws to them in the next shutdown. We're not talking next year. We're talking Feb 8th.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within
**** her. I heard most of it. She mentioned an "urgent need" for more defense spending in the budget. What?
**** her. I heard most of it. She mentioned an "urgent need" for more defense spending in the budget. What?
Given all the fiscal irresponsibility we’ll probably have a desperate need for the military in the near future.
Re: POTUS 45:27 - Whites and Pink Starbursts Inquire Within
I wish someone would campaign on cutting defense spending in half
I wish someone would campaign on cutting defense spending in half
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