trixR4kids
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Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
Both sides are bad so might as well take the nazi's.
Both sides are bad so might as well take the nazi's.
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POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
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FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
Gary Johnson is an R who smokes/invests in pot, so that qualifies him to be a big-L "Libertarian". Big whoop.
Gary Johnson is an R who smokes/invests in pot, so that qualifies him to be a big-L "Libertarian". Big whoop.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
No, folks are just realizing the two "Parties" we have are really just two sides of one bad penny. They are Party first, foremost, and always.
They will do whatever necessary to keep the power. That includes creating "wedge issues" to keep the "sides" internally at conflict as a distraction from the UniParty keeping on keeping on what it does: accumulate and keep power for itself and it's top few (Schumer, McConnell, Pelosi, Ryan).
Outsider Bernie? The DNC backstabbed him. Outsider Trump? The Rs, "his party", are leaving him out in the cold.
UniParty first, foremost, and always. All others shall be shunned ... or worse.
No, folks are just realizing the two "Parties" we have are really just two sides of one bad penny. They are Party first, foremost, and always.
They will do whatever necessary to keep the power. That includes creating "wedge issues" to keep the "sides" internally at conflict as a distraction from the UniParty keeping on keeping on what it does: accumulate and keep power for itself and it's top few (Schumer, McConnell, Pelosi, Ryan).
Outsider Bernie? The DNC backstabbed him. Outsider Trump? The Rs, "his party", are leaving him out in the cold.
UniParty first, foremost, and always. All others shall be shunned ... or worse.
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
Like I told Scoobs: show me.
I actually agreed and echoed what a liberal said, but apparently it's "different" when a liberal does it.
And Gurt: I think it's pretty well-known I lean conservative overall. That does not make me Trump's lapdog, which is what people like Maize, Scoobs, and rufie want to label me as.
Like I told Scoobs: show me.
I actually agreed and echoed what a liberal said, but apparently it's "different" when a liberal does it.
And Gurt: I think it's pretty well-known I lean conservative overall. That does not make me Trump's lapdog, which is what people like Maize, Scoobs, and rufie want to label me as.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
I think it's worse than that, because there are campus leaders who go apesh-t and shout the speakers down. Campus "PC culture" is way overplayed by the Echo Chamber BUT it is a real thing, particularly among Women's Studies and African American Studies students. While the smartest candidates in these disciplines are in control of themselves, the mediocre are just as dumb and knee-jerk and intolerant as the sexists and racists they're trying to fight. Worse, they get a pass from liberal critics who are tried of being labeled sexist and racist for applying the same intellectual standards as they would to any of the other social sciences or humanities.
Academics are in the vast majority way, way better people than pretty much anybody else. They're smarter, they're far more self-aware and self-examining, they're very down to earth and practical despite all the nonsense promulgated about them by the dummies, and they are always bending over backwards in paroxysms of trying to be fair and gentle and inclusive, so much so that I found them maddening and stalked away (something which, I realize with hindsight, I should Not Have Done). Academics are the closest thing we have to Peak Humans, other than this:
<img src="https://gcottraux.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/genevieve-b.jpg"> </img>
So I am very annoyed that these morons have invaded and are impugnng their reputation. They are not acting in either the best traditions or interests of liberalism or academia, and I would wish them into the cornfield if I could.
I think it's worse than that, because there are campus leaders who go apesh-t and shout the speakers down. Campus "PC culture" is way overplayed by the Echo Chamber BUT it is a real thing, particularly among Women's Studies and African American Studies students. While the smartest candidates in these disciplines are in control of themselves, the mediocre are just as dumb and knee-jerk and intolerant as the sexists and racists they're trying to fight. Worse, they get a pass from liberal critics who are tried of being labeled sexist and racist for applying the same intellectual standards as they would to any of the other social sciences or humanities.
Academics are in the vast majority way, way better people than pretty much anybody else. They're smarter, they're far more self-aware and self-examining, they're very down to earth and practical despite all the nonsense promulgated about them by the dummies, and they are always bending over backwards in paroxysms of trying to be fair and gentle and inclusive, so much so that I found them maddening and stalked away (something which, I realize with hindsight, I should Not Have Done). Academics are the closest thing we have to Peak Humans, other than this:
<img src="https://gcottraux.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/genevieve-b.jpg"> </img>
So I am very annoyed that these morons have invaded and are impugnng their reputation. They are not acting in either the best traditions or interests of liberalism or academia, and I would wish them into the cornfield if I could.
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trixR4kids
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Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
I used to be more of a libertarian during the Bush era and it seems like the priorities were a bit different then than they are currently. Now libertarians are basically just alt-right doofuses who doubled down on their stupid beliefs after the financial crisis. In a lot of cases libertarians and Republicans are indistinguishable outside of religion maybe but that seems to be more true now than it was back then.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
To quote Patrick Wayne from the 1990 incarnation of Tic Tac Dough...
YOUUUU WIIIIN!!!!
To quote Patrick Wayne from the 1990 incarnation of Tic Tac Dough...
YOUUUU WIIIIN!!!!
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
To quote a former President: "I feel your pain."
To quote a former President: "I feel your pain."
trixR4kids
Well-known member
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
That's not what we were talking about though, he was talking about liberals shutting down campus speakers on college campuses like Evergreen Poly Tech State or whatever and doing the BSAB thing with Charlottesville.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
And given the citations about the neo-nazis shutting down reasonable protesters, Sicatoka has a point in that maybe there is some overlording force here.
And given the citations about the neo-nazis shutting down reasonable protesters, Sicatoka has a point in that maybe there is some overlording force here.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
As I said once upon a time to former USCHO poster PCM:
"Some of the biggest bigots I've met are the anti-bigot bigots."
As I said once upon a time to former USCHO poster PCM:
"Some of the biggest bigots I've met are the anti-bigot bigots."
trixR4kids
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Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
Also Sicatoka is literally this guy minus the fact that it's a parody account/meant to be ironic: http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/994418-dril
Also Sicatoka is literally this guy minus the fact that it's a parody account/meant to be ironic: http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/994418-dril
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
Ever see how fascist Antifa is?
Ever see how fascist Antifa is?
trixR4kids
Well-known member
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
Nope
Nope
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
Add up for yourself how many R's you have voted for minus how many D's over the last say 12 years.
If that number is truly zero or sub-zero, then I withdraw my remark.
Add up for yourself how many R's you have voted for minus how many D's over the last say 12 years.
If that number is truly zero or sub-zero, then I withdraw my remark.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
Well, kind of. Bigots attack you just because of your characteristics. The people who attack the bigots are attacking their words and actions, and that is certainly valid. It's just that some of them attack in ways that can de-legitimize the very protest they are taking part in.
But in a choice between a Nazi and an anti-Nazi protester, I'll take the protester any day, even if they're rude.
Well, kind of. Bigots attack you just because of your characteristics. The people who attack the bigots are attacking their words and actions, and that is certainly valid. It's just that some of them attack in ways that can de-legitimize the very protest they are taking part in.
But in a choice between a Nazi and an anti-Nazi protester, I'll take the protester any day, even if they're rude.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
Opposition to bigotry is not bigotry. This lame attempt at the tu quoque fallacy, is literally one of the oldest go-tos in the right wing playbook.
Opposition to bigotry is not bigotry. This lame attempt at the tu quoque fallacy, is literally one of the oldest go-tos in the right wing playbook.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
It's zero. Both those lines are nothing but trouble.
Hooray for Independence, Libertarian, and "The Rent is 2 **** High"!
It's zero. Both those lines are nothing but trouble.
Hooray for Independence, Libertarian, and "The Rent is 2 **** High"!
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
No, this is nonsense. There are Antifa splinters that are violent, and they are wrong, but as a whole Antifa is doing the right thing.
The attacks on Antifa are the same right wing crank attacks on BLM.
The great irony is you seem to be sincere in trying to defeat the forces that are holding most people back, and yet you attack groups like Antifa and BLM who are On. Your. Side.
The 1% are using racial and social cues to get you to turn on people who could be your friends. (They are doing exactly the same thing to our side in attacking righty-leaning poor.) Divide and conquer is how they manage to maintain control in an ostensible democratic system.
You are doing their bidding and falling for their bullsh-t. The narratives of liberation that you deliver here were written by the very people you are trying to defeat, in order to prevent the right and left 99% from marrying up and overwhelming our mutual slavemasters.
No, this is nonsense. There are Antifa splinters that are violent, and they are wrong, but as a whole Antifa is doing the right thing.
The attacks on Antifa are the same right wing crank attacks on BLM.
The great irony is you seem to be sincere in trying to defeat the forces that are holding most people back, and yet you attack groups like Antifa and BLM who are On. Your. Side.
The 1% are using racial and social cues to get you to turn on people who could be your friends. (They are doing exactly the same thing to our side in attacking righty-leaning poor.) Divide and conquer is how they manage to maintain control in an ostensible democratic system.
You are doing their bidding and falling for their bullsh-t. The narratives of liberation that you deliver here were written by the very people you are trying to defeat, in order to prevent the right and left 99% from marrying up and overwhelming our mutual slavemasters.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem
OK, then why do you fall for Trump?! For god's sake, he's the same bullsh-t, he just has a different scriptwriter. But at the end of the day it's the same old crap policy-wise.
It's zero. Both those lines are nothing but trouble.
Hooray for Independence, Libertarian, and "The Rent is 2 **** High"!
OK, then why do you fall for Trump?! For god's sake, he's the same bullsh-t, he just has a different scriptwriter. But at the end of the day it's the same old crap policy-wise.
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