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POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem

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Rover said:
With all the bleating about Obama "not doing enough" is this a good time to point out that he raised taxes on the rich or would people rather live in their own little world?
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I wonder that you will still be talking, Signor Benedick; nobody marks you.
 
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geezer said:
I don't think so. I don't ever remember a U.S. President lobbying for repeal of the First Amendment before. Pretty sure this is a new breed of crazy.
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A new breed of crazy that has been on El Rushbo radio and Fox News for over a decade.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
just raising taxes on the rich isn't going to do it.
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Oh yes it will.

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Kepler said:
Oh yes it will.

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Fair enough. Just raising taxes on the rich to 39-40% isn't going to do it. Good luck getting it higher.
 
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Kepler said:
I misspoke. I should have said "the current American right," which is a neofeudal fascist movement of the 1% using fundy trogs as its useful idiots.

Obviously there is nothing in conservatism that is inherently anti-libertarian. But continental liberal conservatism of the Russell Kirk stripe has been extinct in this nation for forty years.
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That's true. I don't understand the source of the current crazy very well, besides chasing $$$. Maybe that's all it is.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Yes, and you can make billions off the first amendment by opposing it every day.
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He made billions by openly mocking the US President and his supporters for years. When GW got elected all he had to do was switch the script to "Dingy Harry Reid." Rush would be completely unknown or in prison without the freedom to say whatever gets the most laughs.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Fair enough. Just raising taxes on the rich to 39-40% isn't going to do it. Good luck getting it higher.
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They scream just as loudly when we talk about 39% as if we advocated 93%. So f-ck 'em right in the ear. They owe us $20T. Pay up or hang.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Whoop dee doo. He didn't nothing to stem the tide of the plutocracy. He tried, but just raising taxes on the rich isn't going to do it.
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The ACA was a pretty big wealth transfer from the rich to the poor....
 
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Rover said:
The ACA was a pretty big wealth transfer from the rich to the poor....
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This is true. That was probably Obama's greatest achievement for economic justice.

Obviously, wiping out the whole private insurance racket and going to single payer will be a much bigger one, as well as a huge savings for the country in the long run.
 
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Two questions:

1) Does anybody know how you petition the Vatican to nominate someone for sainthood?

2) Does anybody know Mrs. Kepler's full name?

:D
 
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Rover said:
Two questions:

1) Does anybody know how you petition the Vatican to nominate someone for sainthood?

2) Does anybody know Mrs. Kepler's full name?

:D
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As I've said before, Dr. Mrs. makes me look like Barry Goldwater.
 
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OTOH, if the Russians decide to neutralize Dump, that about takes care of NoDak.

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No Dak already looks like it got hit by a nuke anyhow.

Kepler said:
They scream just as loudly when we talk about 39% as if we advocated 93%. So f-ck 'em right in the ear. They owe us $20T. Pay up or hang.
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Spot on, might as well start high rather than negotiating against yourself
 
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Robert Reich on Facebook

This morning I phoned my old friend, a Republican former member of Congress.

Me: So what’s up? Is Corker alone, or are others also ready to call it quits with Trump?

He: All I know is they’re simmering over there.

Me: Flake and McCain have come pretty close.

He: Yeah. Others are thinking about doing what Bob did. Sounding the alarm. They think Trump’s nuts. Unfit. Dangerous.

Me: Well, they already knew that, didn’t they?

He: But now it’s personal. It started with the Sessions stuff. Jeff was as loyal as they come. Trump’s crapping on him was like kicking your puppy. And then, you know, him beating up on Mitch for the Obamacare fiasco. And going after Flake and the others.

Me: So they're ****ed off?

He: Not just that. I mean, they have thick hides. The personal stuff got them to notice all the other things. The wild stuff, like those threats to North Korea. Tillerson would leave tomorrow if he wasn’t so worried Trump would go nuclear, literally.

Me: You think Trump is really thinking nuclear war?

He: Who knows what’s in his head? But I can tell you this. He’s not listening to anyone. Not a soul. He’s got the nuclear codes and, well, it scares the hell out of me. It’s starting to scare all of them. That’s really why Bob spoke up.

Me: So what could they do? I mean, even if the whole Republican leadership was willing to say publicly he’s unfit to serve, what then?

He: Bingo! The emperor has no clothes. It’s a signal to everyone they can bail. Have to bail to save their skins. I mean, Trump could be the end of the whole goddam Republican party.

Me: If he starts a nuclear war, that could be the end of everything.

He: Yeah, right. So when they start bailing on him, the stage is set.

Me: For what?

He: Impeachment. 25th amendment.

Me: You think Republicans would go that far?

He: Not yet. Here’s the thing. They really want to get this tax bill through. That’s all they have going for them. They don’t want to face voters in ’18 or ’20 without something to show for it. They’re just praying Trump doesn’t do something really, really stupid before the tax bill.

Me: Like a nuclear war?

He: Look, all I can tell you is many of the people I talk with are getting freaked out. It’s not as if there’s any careful strategizing going on. Not like, well, do we balance the tax bill against nuclear war? No, no. They’re worried as hell. They’re also worried about Trump crazies, all the ignoramuses he’s stirred up. I mean, Roy Moore? How many more of them do you need to destroy the party?

Me: So what’s gonna happen?

He: You got me. I’m just glad I’m not there anymore. Trump’s not just a moron. He’s a despicable human being. And he’s getting crazier. Paranoid. Unhinged. Everyone knows it. I mean, we’re in **** up to our eyeballs with this guy.
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All in on a tax bill that couldn't be worse for the economy. Hilarious.
 
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