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POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem

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geezer said:
There's no overlap between Bernie and Trump voters, that's stupid. They are complete opposites.
I voted for Bernie for his honesty, and against Trump for his dishonesty.
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There is plenty of overlap.
 
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rufus said:
Once Bernie was knocked out, who were those rabid-anti-establishment voters going to turn to? Some fringe party candidates who they had never heard of and knew nothing about?
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Pretty much, I voted for some guy named "McMullin" that wasn't even on our ballot.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Somebody needs to articulate exactly why the 1% keep getting more and more while the rest keep getting less and less. It needs to be explained in simple terms and soundbites.
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Investment income is taxed at a lower rate than income earned from working. Most of the 1% make their money from investments, don't do a thing but sit on their azzes and watch the money roll in. As of 2013, the 1% owned 38% or all stock shares.

Simple enough?
 
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rufus said:
Investment income is taxed at a lower rate than income earned from working. Most of the 1% make their money from investments. As of 2013, the 1% owned 38% or all stock shares.

Simple enough?
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That one always worked for me. Taxes on labor are always higher and that's wrong. But, the GOP has convinced people that's why they're even employed in the first place. Hard to get over that hump. It's been drilled into them.
 
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Cause people are stupid. There's people on this board who will tell you that someone won't make an investment that will give him 20% return if he has to pay a third of that profit in taxes.
 
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rufus said:
Cause people are stupid. There's people on this board who will tell you that someone won't make an investment that will give him 20% return if he has to pay a third of that profit in taxes.
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Correct. And the GOP has so thoroughly drilled that into people's skulls that they think the number one reason their wages have stagnated is because the rich have been taxed too much.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Somebody needs to articulate exactly why the 1% keep getting more and more while the rest keep getting less and less. It needs to be explained in simple terms and soundbites.

Even then it may not work. Everyone who is stupid in America wants to reserve their right to horde their wealth if they ever get it. Never taking into account the odds of that happening.
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I mean Bernie and Obama basically did that.
 
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trixR4kids said:
I mean Bernie and Obama basically did that.
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Obama did nothing about it. And Bernie never had policy chops, just platitudes. Someone needs to articulate it and explain exactly how to fix it. i.e. We will tax capital gains and labor exactly the same. Or, better yet, labor will be taxed LESS than capital gains.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Obama did nothing about it. And Bernie never had policy chops, just platitudes. Someone needs to articulate it and explain exactly how to fix it. i.e. We will tax capital gains and labor exactly the same. Or, better yet, labor will be taxed LESS than capital gains.
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You're right that Obama did nothing about it but if you want to win you need to campaign on it at the very least.

As for Bernie I think the details are there you just need to actually look for them (spending less on military, higher taxes on rich people).
 
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trixR4kids said:
You're right that Obama did nothing about it but if you want to win you need to campaign on it at the very least.

As for Bernie I think the details are there you just need to actually look for them (spending less on military, higher taxes on rich people).
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Neither of them explains it like the difference in tax rates for labor vs. capital. Which I do not remember Bernie ever bringing that up. Higher taxes on rich people and less military spending doesn't work. If it did a Democrat would own the White House every election.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Obama did nothing about it.
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Obama tried to get rid of the Bush era tax cuts and was blocked by the Republican congress. That's why Obama was bad and you should vote Republican if you care about the little guy, is what the RWNJs around here tell me.

Next time anyone brings up the "liberal media," just mention this Weinstein thing. Saying this is bad for Democrats necessarily implies that somehow Weinstein has done more for the Democratic Party than Roger Ailes did for the RNC. Did Trump have to answer for Ailes' abuse the way Hilary has had to with Weinstein? Of course not. Hell, Trump hasn't even had to answer for the allegations of sexual abuse against him, which at this point are probably more serious than Weinstein's since the allegations against Trump were said under oath.
 
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MaizeRage said:
Obama tried to get rid of the Bush era tax cuts and was blocked by the Republican congress.
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This is why I am willing to give Obama a break despite him getting very little done in fixing Wall Street or taxes. The Republican foxes are guarding the fiscal henhouse. Where Obama was able to commit to real change, as on monetary policy, he did, and of course it worked because Keynes > Friedman.

But we will need a radical liberal sweep of the executive, legislative, and judiciary, lasting for a significant amount of time, to repair the damage that the rich and their craven conservative cronies have inflicted on this country.
 
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Kepler said:
Can you explain to me what happened with the patience of explaining the internet to your grandfather?
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Someone posted an image saying to impeach PR's President, everyone in the Donald group liked it and pushed up its popularity, then realized Trump is PR's President, and are now trying to delete their support of the image.
 
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French Rage said:
Someone posted an image saying to impeach PR's President, everyone in the Donald group liked it and pushed up its popularity, then realized Trump is PR's President, and are now trying to delete their support of the image.
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Ah.

The best people.
 
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