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POTUS 45.21 STAND for our great National Anthem

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Stupid and showing signs of dementia. That dialogue is just fugly, no matter how you slice it.
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
Jimmy Carter: The media has been harder on Trump than predecessors. Is Carter finally starting to show some mental deterioration? Of course the media is harder on trump. Just like a personal foul is 15 yards and a delay of game is only 5. Just like you're grounded for a month if you wreck the family car but only for a night if you forget to take out the trash.
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But supposedly seeking a nomination under the Republican ticket is an unforgivable curse? I find it amazing how quickly you triggered wackos can just throw someone under the bus. Those who "ideologically disagree" could just stand on the sidelines, because you're your own worst enemy, trying to one-up your supposed friends that are now your enemies because they dared have an opinion different from what the matrix tells you to think.
 
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Since the tax plan is a big part of the next few weeks- did anyone hear the way they plan on getting back the taxes lost by lowering the tax brackets?

By lowering what you are allowed to put into a 401k.

Seriously. Instead of limiting to 18k a year, it will go to well under $5,000. That raises a person's immediate taxable income.

Which means that people who put a very significant part of their income into their retirement will be funding the upper end who have a tax break.

Yay.
 
alfablue said:
Since the tax plan is a big part of the next few weeks- did anyone hear the way they plan on getting back the taxes lost by lowering the tax brackets?

By lowering what you are allowed to put into a 401k.

Seriously. Instead of limiting to 18k a year, it will go to well under $5,000. That raises a person's immediate taxable income.

Which means that people who put a very significant part of their income into their retirement will be funding the upper end who have a tax break.

Yay.
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I saw that a few days ago and was surprised it wasn't noticed by many.
The mouth breathers will still cheer this on.
They are literally decimating all but the top few percent.
 
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Daniel Dale with some more amazing work:

@ddale8: Here is a thread about Donald Trump getting hilariously lost in his own lying. 1/

In summary, Trump went on a National radio show over the weekend. Bragged how his "47%" approval rating was downright amazing. Such a good number that it's a guaranteed re-election approval.

Which, Rassmussen even admits his approval rating was only at 41% at this time. But whatever, let's give him a pass on inflating it and on it being a guarantee reelection number.

Then in the very next breath on air, as Daniel points out, Trump goes on to "dismantle" Obama over having "only a 46% approval rating leaving office," (again, a lie as it was a Rasmussen 62%). Even mocks Obama's "46%" as "if you can even call that popular."

So essentially, Trump was discrediting his own approval rating while attempting to knock Obama.

The sad white man continues to hate the "darkie."
 
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He's also now tweeting that the war widow is lying- this outta end well.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
I saw that a few days ago and was surprised it wasn't noticed by many.
The mouth breathers will still cheer this on.
They are literally decimating all but the top few percent.
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Do you think those losrers can spell 401K let alone have one?
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
He's also now tweeting that the war widow is lying- this outta end well.
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Why is this ok? Seriously. Look at how GW treated Cindy Sheehan and was criticized for it and compare it with this and the Khan's. Seriously, I want to know why this is OK.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Why is this ok? Seriously. Look at how GW treated Cindy Sheehan and was criticized for it and compare it with this and the Khan's. Seriously, I want to know why this is OK.
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Well, she's black, and female, let's start there
 
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alfablue said:
Since the tax plan is a big part of the next few weeks- did anyone hear the way they plan on getting back the taxes lost by lowering the tax brackets?

By lowering what you are allowed to put into a 401k.

Seriously. Instead of limiting to 18k a year, it will go to well under $5,000. That raises a person's immediate taxable income.

Which means that people who put a very significant part of their income into their retirement will be funding the upper end who have a tax break.

Yay.
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Most people only go 401k up to a company match anyway, and it's a lot better to do a Roth IRA anyway because it's tax free, not tax deferred, which is where a lot of baby boomers are starting to regret their investment decisions. I'm sure the limits will still be higher once you're over 50 so you can "catch up". The limits also effectively double if you're married filing jointly.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Most people only go 401k up to a company match anyway, and it's a lot better to do a Roth IRA anyway because it's tax free, not tax deferred, which is where a lot of baby boomers are starting to regret their investment decisions. I'm sure the limits will still be higher once you're over 50 so you can "catch up". The limits also effectively double if you're married filing jointly.
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A Roth isn't "tax free". In a Roth you have already paid the taxes before the investment.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
A Roth isn't "tax free". In a Roth you have already paid the taxes before the investment.
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The earnings are tax free, though. So long as you keep them around until 59.5 or 5 years, whichever is longer. With the 401(k) and traditional IRA you pay taxes on everything, and you're also forced to take distributions when you're 70.5.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
The earnings are tax free, though. So long as you keep them around until 59.5 or 5 years, whichever is longer. With the 401(k) and traditional IRA you pay taxes on everything, and you're also forced to take distributions when you're 70.5.
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But you only pay taxes at the rate you take it out. And since many spend less to live on in retirement, you gain a lot by lowering your tax bracket.

Whereas a Roth, you are taxed at your income rate.

Plus, there are limits on who can actually use a Roth. Sure, most of the middle class will never see that, but that does leave people who earn up to the 401k limit as the ones who really are holding the tax burden bag.

A far better way to raise income taxes is to balance the taxes WRT source. Make unearned income equal with earned income. That will generate billions in tax revenue. Make actually working for your money the goal again. But this will never happen, as it puts more burden on people who make over $1M a year. As if they need to pay less to live on.
 
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But you only pay taxes at the rate you take it out. And since many spend less to live on in retirement, you gain a lot by lowering your tax bracket.

Whereas a Roth, you are taxed at your income rate.

Plus, there are limits on who can actually use a Roth. Sure, most of the middle class will never see that, but that does leave people who earn up to the 401k limit as the ones who really are holding the tax burden bag.

A far better way to raise income taxes is to balance the taxes WRT source. Make unearned income equal with earned income. That will generate billions in tax revenue. Make actually working for your money the goal again. But this will never happen, as it puts more burden on people who make over $1M a year. As if they need to pay less to live on.
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Yep. I can't contribute to a Roth but I'm certainly not in the top few percent.
 
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