POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.

[Rover]

Re: POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.

Dumb analogy Slappy. Being a Muslim is a religion. Republicans are a political party/movement. You don't vote to become a Muslim.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

I'm sure the people of Venezuela would like to keep starving just to stick it to Trump.

I'm sure you know absolutely nothing about what the people of Venezuela are thinking, despite whatever anecdotes from the oil company expats you claim to know down there.

 

[Kepler]

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Walking through the break room, someone had the TV in there tuned to Fox News. Their graphics had written that Trump was branding the KKK, Neo-Nazis, and white supremacists as criminals, thugs. It only took him until today to actually denounce them. The funny part is that there went his reelection bid.

Bannon must not have worn knee pads.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Walking through the break room, someone had the TV in there tuned to Fox News. Their graphics had written that Trump was branding the KKK, Neo-Nazis, and white supremacists as criminals, thugs. It only took him until today to actually denounce them. The funny part is that there went his reelection bid.

I don't think him saying it two days later after public outcry is going to ruin his reelection bid. If he had done it right away? Probably. But, not now. Now it's barely news.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Trump's threat of Venezuela military action could bolster Maduro

It won't belong before every tinpot despot rattles their saber.

MIC must be getting desperate...

 

[Rover]

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I don't think him saying it two days later after public outcry is going to ruin his reelection bid. If he had done it right away? Probably. But, not now. Now it's barely news.

Exactly, by waiting several days he's basically giving a wink to his alt-right supporters that he's just going through the motions to get the press to back off (which will most likely work with the numbnuts in the media).

 

[Kepler]

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I don't think him saying it two days later after public outcry is going to ruin his reelection bid. If he had done it right away? Probably. But, not now. Now it's barely news.

He has it both ways. His people get to say he renounced them, but they know from his first reaction that it's a wink.

He's shocked, shocked do you hear that there's racist hatred among the Deplorables.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Bannon must not have worn knee pads.

Ivanka beat him to it.

 

[SJHovey]

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So a bunch of Rednecks with small dicks and automatic weapons cant handle when a bunch Liberal Elitists and Der Darky Friends tell them they are wrong so they go violent? Pretty easy to see who is to blame for what happened and it isnt the Anti-Protesters.

But yeah when people are protecting statues of traitors and wearing uniforms of Facists who millions died defeating we should just ignore it cause it will just go away. How did that work in the South post Civil War?

Where was all "turn the other cheek" stuff at Standing Rock? Can I victim blame the cops and the oil company?

You don't ignore it. But you don't assemble your own mob/counter protest group or whatever you want to call it to march into the street and provoke a confrontation.

If you're there, take pictures of these people, then circulate them (and media photographs) on social media. Name names. If you recognize someone in a photo, publicly out them. Make sure the community as a whole knows who these people are and what they support.

When they violate the law, film them doing it and report them to the police.

Make sure your local politicians know that you oppose this group and support the decision to remove the statue.

Use the event as an education opportunity for children and others.

You can try all you want to claim there are two choices, ignoring the event or open confrontation with your own group, but you're wrong.

 

[trixR4kids]

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I think we know which side was trying to provoke a confrontation. Well at least most of us who aren't trying too hard to be like Brent and be in the imaginary center of nazis and normal people.

 

[French Rage]

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You don't ignore it. But you don't assemble your own mob/counter protest group or whatever you want to call it to march into the street and provoke a confrontation.

I disagree. You should assemble people to counter-protest/march to show them and, more importantly, everyone else that they are not the majority. They are trying to work their way into general acceptance by hoping people will not stand up to them. Now yes you do this without a physical confrontation, but the fact that 1% of the people don't get the memo on that doesn't mean they other 99% should not continue to do the right thing.

 

[Kepler]

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History doesn't repeat. But it rhymes.

 

[rufus]

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NPR this morning interviewed a guy in rural NY. According to him, Trump should be getting praise for calling for unity because Obama never did that (false), these white supremacists aren't as bad because they want equality for everyone(I don't even ****ing know how one can say that), and Trump hasn't gotten a fair shake in the media (maybe if he didn't do something stupid on the daily).

The power of the conservative media bubble knows no bounds.

Yep. Cause nothing says everyone is equal like belonging to a group with "supremacist" in its name.

 

[trixR4kids]

History doesn't repeat. But it rhymes.

Someone elsewhere posted this too, good stuff.

 

[SJHovey]

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fyp



Whether or not those attacked were there on purpose is immaterial. And does one really need to be angry about the election to abhor white supremacy, want it squashed from gaining a foothold in this country? I'd love to believe you're simply playing Devil's Advocate but your posting history gives that away.

I'm not playing devil's advocate. I agree, these white supremacist groups are evil, and probably a bit crazy. They're kind of like a rabid animal. You shouldn't ignore it, but running up to it and confronting it is also a very, very bad idea.

Here is where I disagree with many here. If you think neo-nazi ideology or white supremacy is evil, and you hear a large group of them plan to assemble and march down a street in your town shouting their nonsense, and someone suggests that everyone get together and form a counter protest group to meet them in the street, what exactly is the farking plan???

Do you think the neo-nazi's are just going to flee for their cars? Do you think that when they hear you shouting at them or arguing with them, they're going to convert and immediately reject all things nazi? Because the only reason I can think of for going down and confronting them face to face is that you want a brawl.

If you claim, like many do, that we must show these neo-nazis that we disagree with them, that their ideas will be rejected and not be tolerated, go hold a bigger and better march elsewhere in town.

You can sit here and sugarcoat it all you want, but this is effectively no different than gang warfare.

 

[rufus]

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To you earlier comment, deplorable to me probably means something different than what it meant to you or anyone else. I took it more as an attack on rural folk(which I'm from a rural area) than solely white supremacists.

Anyone with half a brain knew who she was talking about. That you made that remark all about you tells us all we need to know about you. Poor persecuted little white boy.

Again. Half a brain.

 

[Kepler]

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Someone elsewhere posted this too, good stuff.

I saw the 2 minute extract, this is almost all of it (the only 17 minute version I found had problems).

Maybe these f-cktards will have done the country a favor in the end.

 

[SJHovey]

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I think we know which side was trying to provoke a confrontation. Well at least most of us who aren't trying too hard to be like Brent and be in the imaginary center of nazis and normal people.

Of course the neo-nazis were trying to provoke a confrontation. That's the point I've been trying to make here for 4 hours.

Why give them exactly what they want?

 

[Kepler]

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Of course the neo-nazis were trying to provoke a confrontation. That's the point I've been trying to make here for 4 hours.

Why give them exactly what they want?

Why counter-protest when Nazis come to my town?

 

[rufus]

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Read her statement again. She exempted people from larger states. Doesn't that imply something?

Really? Show us where. you read this statement, and tell us where she's specifically referring to the good rural folk.

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? [Laughter/applause]. The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people, now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets offensive, hateful, mean-spirited rhetoric. Now some of those folks, they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America.
"But the other basket, the other basket, and I know because I see friends from all over America here. I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas, as well as you know New York and California. But that other basket of people who are people who feel that government has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they are just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."

You really are a frikkin' idjit.