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POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!

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Spicer has resigned! I need some popcorn.
 
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Kepler said:
While that's true, the problem with the encroachment of executive power has been completely bipartisan. Democratic and Republican presidents have greedily increased executive power, and Democratic and Republican Congresses have joyfully ducked their responsibilities. The Founders assumed each of the three branches would grasp as much power as they could so that tautness would keep the distribution of powers stable. They did not anticipate the abdication of the legislature.
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Yup. Whomever is at 1600 Penn will take as much power as they can. It's the nature of the beast that wants that job. When the other branches sit back and do nothing it's the fantasy scenario for the Executive.
 
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Rover said:
Meh...not really Kep. We agree on a lot of economic principles. Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare for example. Free college tuition to state universities for people under a certain income level. Rich get away with too many tax breaks. Our differences really revolve around how hard you want to stick it to the wealthy. That's no reason for us to be in different parties, especially when the opposition wants to keep giving them tax cuts.
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Rover, you think that because the Dems give you what you want so, to you, the rest is "trivial." But not to me it isn't -- if I had my druthers I'd be fighting the Dems hard from the left on economic issues.

Also, it's funny that you caricature my ideas as "sticking it to the wealthy." That language is right out of the 1960's GOP playbook as a way to diminish and delegitimize liberalism. I'm interested in giving everyone equal opportunity and preventing the growth of a ruling class in order to protect everyone's freedoms and rights. The only people who break out in hives when it's mentioned that the only way to do that is to put a ceiling on wealth and subsidize the Poors are on the right on economic issues.

The fact that the Democratic party is so lame is proven by your comfort with it. :)

We're in the same party because on a 10-point scale the Dems are a 3 and the GOP is a 0. But many of us out here are looking for a world where the Dems are a 7, the GOP is a 3, and I as a 9 can vote Dem without having to take five hot showers afterwards, while you can sit right on the mean of the GOP fat and happy.
 
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Kepler said:
Rover, you think that because the Dems give you what you want so, to you, the rest is "trivial." But not to me it isn't -- if I had my druthers I'd be fighting the Dems hard from the left on economic issues.

Also, it's funny that you caricature my ideas as "sticking it to the wealthy." That language is right out of the 1960's GOP playbook as a way to diminish and delegitimize liberalism. I'm interested in giving everyone equal opportunity and preventing the growth of a ruling class in order to protect everyone's freedoms and rights. The only people who break out in hives when it's mentioned that the only way to do that is to put a ceiling on wealth and subsidize the Poors are on the right on economic issues.

The fact that the Democratic party is so lame is proven by your comfort with it. :)
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Kep, what part of "Screw People Who Keep Voting To Screw Themselves" are you struggling with? I don't give a fuk about the 60's and I'm frankly sick of hearing about them. Liberalism isn't the problem. Stupid people are. If the people you seek to protect would rather elect those that enhance the wealth of the ruling class at their own expense, at what point do you stop bagging your head against the wall? They can either smarten up or keep getting fuked.
 
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Rover said:
Kep, what part of "Screw People Who Keep Voting To Screw Themselves" are you struggling with? I don't give a fuk about the 60's and I'm frankly sick of hearing about them. Liberalism isn't the problem. Stupid people are. If the people you seek to protect would rather elect those that enhance the wealth of the ruling class at their own expense, at what point do you stop bagging your head against the wall? They can either smarten up or keep getting fuked.
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None of which speaks to what you want to see in the world. Yes, people are stupid, but stupid people can be led -- just look at the GOP leading them to slaughter. We could be just as easily leading them to a measure of dignity and independence. The reason we're not is the folks who run the DNC are all millionaires and benefit from the slaughter. They just want to anesthetize the victims first, but they aren't willing to burn the abattoir because their investments would suffer too.
 
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It's interesting to see Kepler come to realize what we have in America today is a Uniparty.

Economically Ds, Rs, they are the same: beholden to banks and Wall Street. And ultimately, its only about money. They (Ds, Rs) parade the social issues about to keep folks distracted from what their real intentions are (collecting power and money).
 
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The Sicatoka said:
It's interesting to see Kepler come to realize what we have in America today is a Uniparty.
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It's not a uniparty -- the GOP is still somewhat worse on economic issues. And the GOP is a f-cking disaster on social issues and militarism.

Let's not stray from the point. The Democratic party is a head cold. The Republican party is bubonic plague.
 
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dave122793 said:
Probably more like a Faux News correspondent. At any rate, he most likely won't be the last rat jumping off this sinking ship.
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Not likely...my guess is he wants nothing to do with propaganda for a while.

And Kep Rover is right...if the people dont want our help why should we keep trying to help them? Half the country chose to **** on 1600 Pennsylvania Ave instead of electing someone who wanted nothing more than to protect people's rights (cause she is evil...and Benghazi...AND EMAILZ!!!!!1!!!) and continue giving them health care. They chose to screw over every minority, the poor and the Environment in the hopes they could get a little bit of the 1950s back and even though they are taking it in the shorts they still want more of it! Well screw em. If people want help they better suck it up because I am all out of caring.

For example...the next time the Red River floods and half of Grand Forks, ND is under water they better not come to Minnesota looking for help. They best not cry to FEMA for funds or the Fed for disaster relief. You wanted less government, you wanted more State Autonomy...there ya go! Elections have consequences.
 
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Kepler said:
I think there are principled conservatives who genuinely worry about the erosion of democracy and the replacement of the republic with a centrally-controlled tyrannical state.
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Unicorns might be real too, but that doesn't change how I view horses.
 
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

President Trump personally met with a U.S. attorney nominee prior to her selection in June in an unusual move that raised red flags for former officials, CNN reported Thursday.

A number of former Justice Department and White House sources told CNN the rare meeting is at odds with the custom of guarding U.S. attorneys from political influence, especially considering that she would be the leading the largest federal prosecutor’s office in the country.

Jessie Liu, the current deputy general counsel for the Treasury Department and Trump's pick for U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, said in her responses to the Senate Judiciary Committee that she met with Trump as part of the interview process.
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