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POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!

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Is absolutely irreconcilable with this

That is incorrect. I respect the office. While a man I don't respect is holding the office, I shall at least respect the office, and follow protocol.

You salute/shake hands/etc with the POTUS. Period. That is a show of respect to the office. End of discussion. It doesn't mean you are in agreement with the man (or woman; soon) that is holding office.
 
There's the key. I respect the office. Not the man.

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I don't know how one can possibly respect the office through him, though.

I think I would disrespect the Office of President by inviting him to speak before a group I admire and respect.
 
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And that has absolutely nothing to do with extending an olive branch to give him the honor of speaking at an event like the Annual Jamboree. It should be offered to men and women who deserve it.

The office doesn't speak. The person holding it does.
 
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I don't know how one can possibly respect the office through him, though.

I did it through the B Clinton era. The Dems did it through the Reagan (and maybe a touch) through the W era......
 
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And that has absolutely nothing to do with extending an olive branch to give him the honor of speaking at an event like the Annual Jamboree. It should be offered to men and women who deserve it.

The office doesn't speak. The person holding it does.

He's the POTUS. That is not deserving? Whether or not you disagree or respect the person, s/he is the leader of your country. Those speaking engagements are limited. I'd be honored if the POTUS spoke in front of a group I'm in. Period.
 
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The Boy Scout story I linked, he had a strong closing to that story: "But the big thing. Never quit, never give up, do something you love. When you do something you love, as a scout, I see that you love it. But when you do something that you love, you'll never fail."

It was the two page rambling about seeing an old friend at an 80's cocaine fueled high society orgy that he talked though while getting to the point that made me go "Double You Tee Eff?" This sounded not as something the President would be on record as saying, but more me trying to fill two pages on a college English paper due at 10 am when it's 3:45 am already.


Edit: dear God I didn't see the whole thing, only the snippet I linked. It's even worse. *facepalm*
 
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If you are making equivalencies between Trump and those two, there really is not much I can say.

Trump is way worse, don't get me wrong. Not even close. My point is, others gritted their teeth, and respected the office.
 
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He's the POTUS. That is not deserving? Whether or not you disagree or respect the person, s/he is the leader of your country. Those speaking engagements are limited. I'd be honored if the POTUS spoke in front of a group I'm in. Period.

No. It's not. If the president advocated killing Jews, would you just let him walk down Pennsylvania and shower him with respect?
 
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I like the part about not trusting the people trying to teach you how to be successful by selling book and tapes.

Also that doesn't include this beautiful piece:

I'm impressed he didn't make them raise their right hands and pledge allegiance...ifyaknowwhatImean.
 
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I noticed you conveniently didn't answer the question.

Because it's an idiotic question, and you should know better. Yet, that is the condition you have to lean on to attempt to prove a point? Flailing argument, at best.
 
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Because it's an idiotic question, and you should know better. Yet, that is the condition you have to lean on to attempt to prove a point? Flailing argument, at best.

Do you invite the president to speak if he advocates killing the Jews?
 
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Do you invite the president to speak if he advocates killing the Jews?

Again, idiotic question. Do YOU invite a leader that doesn't quite advocate the killing of an ethnicity, but ends up killing more folks than Hitler, due to policies, but on the surface is a great leader?

Just saying.
 
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I think the better question is - do you invite POTUS, even if he's a "man" who, historically, has flagrantly violated every value that your pledge contains?
 
Trump is way worse, don't get me wrong. Not even close. My point is, others gritted their teeth, and respected the office.

If Donald Trump came to my little hick town to speak to a civic group I belonged to, I would either stay home or show up and object. Out of respect for the office.
 
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If Donald Trump came to my little hock town to speak to a civic group I belonged to, I would either stay home or show up and object. Out of respect for the office.

And that is fair and just.
 
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