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POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
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Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
Hoth.
Pretty sure North Dakota is always frozen over
Hoth.
Which is cowardice.
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WeAreNDHockey
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Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
Trump Is What Happens When a Political Party Abandons Ideas.
Much of the premise of Bartlett's piece is true, but I disagree with his assertion that a moderate wing of the republican party is starting to show some life. If that really were true, why are there more democratic senators (3) who vote with trump at least 50% of the time than republican senators (2) who vote with him fewer than 90% of the time?
I also take issue with his belief that there is an impactful rebirth of the kind of republican intellectualism he writes of. One of the factors in the rise of trumpism is the dumbing down of America. 99% of the people voting for trump and the republicans nowadays are just not sophisticated enough to understand the damage their votes do, to themselves or the rest of the us. So even if a handful or conservative commentators -- like Bartlett himself -- are sounding the alarm, the only ones paying attention are people like those of us in this thread. No trump voter will read this and realize the dreadful mistake they made. Given a chance, they will vote for him in again in 2020, and given a chance to vote for a trump supporter or apologist in whatever election next comes their way, that's who will get that vote too.
The fate of this nation rests on the backs of two sets of voters. The people who voted for Obama twice and could not be bothered to vote in midterms or in 2016 have got to realize that their vote in 2018 is probably more important than the one they cast in 2008 or 2012 in all ways other than the (partly) symbolic nature of electing someone other than a white man for president. And we have to hope that 2 years of continued trump disasters politically will dull any sense of excitement among his weakest voters and they stay away from the polls the next couple of elections.
Trump Is What Happens When a Political Party Abandons Ideas.
Much of the premise of Bartlett's piece is true, but I disagree with his assertion that a moderate wing of the republican party is starting to show some life. If that really were true, why are there more democratic senators (3) who vote with trump at least 50% of the time than republican senators (2) who vote with him fewer than 90% of the time?
I also take issue with his belief that there is an impactful rebirth of the kind of republican intellectualism he writes of. One of the factors in the rise of trumpism is the dumbing down of America. 99% of the people voting for trump and the republicans nowadays are just not sophisticated enough to understand the damage their votes do, to themselves or the rest of the us. So even if a handful or conservative commentators -- like Bartlett himself -- are sounding the alarm, the only ones paying attention are people like those of us in this thread. No trump voter will read this and realize the dreadful mistake they made. Given a chance, they will vote for him in again in 2020, and given a chance to vote for a trump supporter or apologist in whatever election next comes their way, that's who will get that vote too.
The fate of this nation rests on the backs of two sets of voters. The people who voted for Obama twice and could not be bothered to vote in midterms or in 2016 have got to realize that their vote in 2018 is probably more important than the one they cast in 2008 or 2012 in all ways other than the (partly) symbolic nature of electing someone other than a white man for president. And we have to hope that 2 years of continued trump disasters politically will dull any sense of excitement among his weakest voters and they stay away from the polls the next couple of elections.
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That is brilliant no matter how you look at it!!
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
I heard this guy on Make it Plain on XM. I haven't looked at any of those blog posts but he was impressive. Interesting and incisive, and well able to articulate how the "Alt Lite" (Trump et al.) create an atmosphere where the Alt Right (Breitbart) pushes narratives which in turn provide a creche for the serious White Nationalist / Neo-Nazi movements.
Here is an example of how well he knows his stuff. You may recognize some of the memes and tropes employed by white nationalists from certain Cafe posters. The linked article is actually from one of the exposed Alt Right authors (you'll be fascinated to learn, for example, that "antisemitic" is a meaningless term) so wear HAZMAT gear if you're going to poke around.
Praemonitus, praemunitus.
I heard this guy on Make it Plain on XM. I haven't looked at any of those blog posts but he was impressive. Interesting and incisive, and well able to articulate how the "Alt Lite" (Trump et al.) create an atmosphere where the Alt Right (Breitbart) pushes narratives which in turn provide a creche for the serious White Nationalist / Neo-Nazi movements.
Here is an example of how well he knows his stuff. You may recognize some of the memes and tropes employed by white nationalists from certain Cafe posters. The linked article is actually from one of the exposed Alt Right authors (you'll be fascinated to learn, for example, that "antisemitic" is a meaningless term) so wear HAZMAT gear if you're going to poke around.
Praemonitus, praemunitus.
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The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
Republican? Why the insult.
I think of myself as a conservative leaning libertarian.
Republican? Why the insult.
I think of myself as a conservative leaning libertarian.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
And the other side will counter (as they always have) with, "Yeah, but when you're a mill, ... er, ... billionaire do you want people stealing your money to just give away to people that didn't earn it or to boondoggle projects?" That'll peel enough away that the argument won't win. I base this on, well, the last 50 year of American politics.
And the other side will counter (as they always have) with, "Yeah, but when you're a mill, ... er, ... billionaire do you want people stealing your money to just give away to people that didn't earn it or to boondoggle projects?" That'll peel enough away that the argument won't win. I base this on, well, the last 50 year of American politics.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
Snarky? Peevish? That's quite a few in these-here parts since Nov 8, 2016. Not sayin', just sayin'.
Snarky? Peevish? That's quite a few in these-here parts since Nov 8, 2016. Not sayin', just sayin'.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
Mother.
Father.
Both grandmothers.
Both grandfathers.
Heck, I think you have to go pre-Ellis Island to find anything other, and I'm not sure you will.
I'm probably being holier than thou but, hey, Catholic Mom.
Mother.
Father.
Both grandmothers.
Both grandfathers.
Heck, I think you have to go pre-Ellis Island to find anything other, and I'm not sure you will.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
State of ND.
Bergum's "education advisor" to re-invent K12 education in ND taught HS social studies for two years.
I'm not directly in K12 education, but I can rattle off 50 better people within 100 miles of where I'm sitting.
State of ND.
Bergum's "education advisor" to re-invent K12 education in ND taught HS social studies for two years.
I'm not directly in K12 education, but I can rattle off 50 better people within 100 miles of where I'm sitting.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
And I think of myself as a non-violent anarcho-syndicalist hyper-liberal. But I think the acid test is when was the last time you voted D (for me, R) for Congress or the President? My answer is: never. So that makes me, despite myself, a thoroughgoing Democrat.
Republican? Why the insult.
I think of myself as a conservative leaning libertarian.
And I think of myself as a non-violent anarcho-syndicalist hyper-liberal. But I think the acid test is when was the last time you voted D (for me, R) for Congress or the President? My answer is: never. So that makes me, despite myself, a thoroughgoing Democrat.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
I watched. This is the classic problem for intellectuals in general and liberals in particular. We think before we talk, and half the country interprets that as suspicious since they don't do it.
Saint Ronnie taught us an empty head and a stout affect will win the masses every time. The ape brain interprets certainty as "leadership," it apparently never occurring to them it might just be bravado (Reagan) or bombast (Trump). They will always be manipulated by stentorian tones and the artifice of "authenticity."
Fair enough
Did you watch Maher? I think he is right the Left is going to continue to lose if they flinch everytime someone challenges them on any of their beliefs. I have been saying it forever stand up for what you think is right. The average person doesnt know what is going on but they can tell when someone is nervous or looking for the right answer. Democrats, for all their love of certain issues, are so afraid of offending someone hat they wishy wash their way out of winning any election. You want to win, stand behind your beliefs and your party.
I watched. This is the classic problem for intellectuals in general and liberals in particular. We think before we talk, and half the country interprets that as suspicious since they don't do it.
Saint Ronnie taught us an empty head and a stout affect will win the masses every time. The ape brain interprets certainty as "leadership," it apparently never occurring to them it might just be bravado (Reagan) or bombast (Trump). They will always be manipulated by stentorian tones and the artifice of "authenticity."
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
Like I've said, I voted for each of ND's current Senators: Heitkamp (D) and Hoeven (R).
And I think of myself as a non-violent anarcho-syndicalist hyper-liberal. But I think the acid test is when was the last time you voted D (for me, R) for Congress or the President? My answer is: never. So that makes me, despite myself, a thoroughgoing Democrat.
Like I've said, I voted for each of ND's current Senators: Heitkamp (D) and Hoeven (R).
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
Then you get to call yourself an independent. So, you're the one!
Then you get to call yourself an independent. So, you're the one!
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
I said a while back, good, bad, or indifferent, Trump is coming in and running things differently --> as a business, as a CEO; not like a politician.
Here's one person's take, namely, David J. Shulkin:
Trump's behaving like a CEO. And CEOs are notorious for wanting to move fast when they believe the organization is failing, and for making mistakes and having to go back and fix them.
I said a while back, good, bad, or indifferent, Trump is coming in and running things differently --> as a business, as a CEO; not like a politician.
Here's one person's take, namely, David J. Shulkin:
- Veterans Affairs Secretary in the Trump administration,
- Veterans Affairs Undersecretary for Health in the Obama Administration
Trump's behaving like a CEO. And CEOs are notorious for wanting to move fast when they believe the organization is failing, and for making mistakes and having to go back and fix them.
Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
He's behaving like a child. I know enough CEOs, and they are professional, hard working, extremely well prepared, and keenly aware of what it means to have credibility. He has shown absolutely none of that.
He's behaving like a child. I know enough CEOs, and they are professional, hard working, extremely well prepared, and keenly aware of what it means to have credibility. He has shown absolutely none of that.
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leswp1
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Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
I don't buy the song and dance of he is learning. No matter how unlearned you are you should be able to figure out a neurosurgeon is not qualified to run something outside of medicine- esp when he clearly tells you so when tagged to run it
But don't they generally try to hire a person who has expertise in the area to fix the problem. This is where I don't think he is acting like a successful business man (which, by the way he isn't really. He is very good at selling off things before he completely fails to people who rescue what ever it is). Think of the people he appoints- how are they going to fix anything. They have little experience in the areas they are 'fixing'. Their sum total of expertise is either trying to make the area fail or being a contributor to his campaign.
I don't buy the song and dance of he is learning. No matter how unlearned you are you should be able to figure out a neurosurgeon is not qualified to run something outside of medicine- esp when he clearly tells you so when tagged to run it
The Sicatoka
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Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?
What "fix" does the CEO have in mind?
Trump's made some (I'll be extremely polite) "interesting" picks in Perry and Carson for Energy and HUD. Then again, if Trump views those as "distressed" portions of this business, he's done exactly what I've seen other CEOs do: Put in a boss out of their depth, or a boss "with an ax", to make those organizations fail so they can be shut down, or just come in and chop chop chop away.
Carson's out of his depth and there to "fail" HUD so it can be shut down; Perry's the ax man to whack Energy; that's what I see.
Alternatively, if the weekend news reports are true and Trump plans to soon announce his goal of the US dominating the world energy markets, putting Tillerson in at State is precisely a CEO move.
What "fix" does the CEO have in mind?
Trump's made some (I'll be extremely polite) "interesting" picks in Perry and Carson for Energy and HUD. Then again, if Trump views those as "distressed" portions of this business, he's done exactly what I've seen other CEOs do: Put in a boss out of their depth, or a boss "with an ax", to make those organizations fail so they can be shut down, or just come in and chop chop chop away.
Carson's out of his depth and there to "fail" HUD so it can be shut down; Perry's the ax man to whack Energy; that's what I see.
Alternatively, if the weekend news reports are true and Trump plans to soon announce his goal of the US dominating the world energy markets, putting Tillerson in at State is precisely a CEO move.
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