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POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

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I'm going to get a ton of hate for this, but it needs to be said again:

Who. Shows. Up.

52% of white women ... who actually took the time to show up when it mattered ... voted for Trump.

Michael Moore warned. I warned*. No one believed.

The life lesson from this? Most of life is just showing up where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to be there. Do it right in November and you're not standing out in the cold in January (literally and figuratively).



*What many of you construed as me "supporting" was me trying to show the "impossible" was all too possible.

The bolded portion is very true, Sic.
 
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52% of white women ... who actually took the time to show up when it mattered ... voted for Trump.

I'm about to break a cardinal rule of posting forums. I'm about to respond to myself.

Before someone says "They did show up. Clinton won the popular vote!"

The rules were set before the match-up. In the MLB and the NHL it's best of 7. In the run for President it's the Electoral College.

Just because a team wins one game by 20 doesn't mean they win the series.
 
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I'm about to break a cardinal rule of posting forums. I'm about to respond to myself.

Before someone says "They did show up. Clinton won the popular vote!"

The rules were set before the match-up. In the MLB and the NHL it's best of 7. In the run for President it's the Electoral College.

Just because a team wins one game by 20 doesn't mean they win the series.

We all know how lazy and stupid about election rules the liberals are and have been. 2000 and 2016 prove it. Hammering on it over and over again makes you me (a Scooby), and no one wants that.
 
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The bolded portion is very true, Sic.

Yup. And so many just don't understand it.

It's true everywhere.

Contractors get the zoning they want because they show up at P&Z meetings. After it happens the neighbors wonder how there's a Kwik-E-Mart in their backyard.

Most good assignments and promotions at work go to the person who's there when the work needs to be done. The folks who don't show up grouse about not getting the plum assignments.

Want something? Show up.
 
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Anyone else happen to notice that Trump hardly ever refers to himself? Quite the change from the last person that was there...

I did notice that Trump has never in his long life shown any interest whatsoever in furthering the interests of anyone but himself. No public service. No history of acting to further any goal other than increasing his own personal profits, often on the backs of the working class. That is in stark contrast to not only the last person who held that office but also to presidents as far back as I can remember. He's the most self-absorbed president (or candidate) I've ever witnessed.
 
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We all know how lazy and stupid about election rules the liberals are and have been. 2000 and 2016 prove it. Hammering on it over and over again makes you me (a Scooby), and no one wants that.

Yup. Nobody wants to listen to folks to talk about the fundamentals.

It's more fun to argue about when crowd size photos were taken and which busts are still in the Oval Office.
 
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Most good assignments and promotions at work go to the person who's there when the work needs to be done.

I learned very early in my work life that more work of importance goes on in an office between 6pm and 7pm then between 9am and 6pm. There is a Golden Hour when the serious people get down to work on the serious issues that affect their future: politics, contract negotiation, the "meta-work" of working. This has enabled me to always be in the loop and be on the radar despite not working an hour of overtime since my 30th birthday.
 
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Yup. Nobody wants to listen to folks to talk about the fundamentals.

It's more fun to argue about when crowd size photos were taken and which busts are still in the Oval Office.

I don't believe this is true. I think it's that reporting on the intricacies and consequences of policy is difficult and requires newscasters who weren't just hired for their hair and legs. Network news is just not up to the task.

Nor is this an accident. Reporting on real things would require the networks to work contrary to the personal interests of their owners. The Founders designed a system to protect against censorship by public institutions, but they didn't count on the self-censorship by private entities.
 
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I learned very early in my work life that more goes on in an office between 6pm and 7pm then between 9am and 6pm. That is is Golden Hour when the serious people get down to work. This has enabled me to always be in the loop and be on the radar despite not working an hour of overtime since my 30th birthday.

In my world, the real work gets done from 0600 to 0700, but yes.
 
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Just wondering, has Flaggy called out Trump for speaking in front of the Muslim prayer rug in the East Room yet? :p
 
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I don't believe this is true. I think it's that reporting on the intricacies and consequences of policy is difficult and requires newscasters who weren't just hired for their hair and legs. Network news is just not up to the task.

I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something-something I can use
People love it when you lose,
They love dirty laundry

Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here
I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear
Come and whisper in my ear
Give us dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em all around

We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blond
Who comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry

Can we film the operation?
Is the head dead yet?
You know, the boys in the newsroom got a running bet
Get the widow on the set!
We need dirty laundry

You don't really need to find out what's going on
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're stiff
Kick 'em all around

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're stiff
Kick 'em all around

Dirty little secrets
Dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers in everybody's pie
We love to cut you down to size
We love dirty laundry

We can do "The Innuendo"
We can dance and sing
When it's said and done we haven't told you a thing
We all know that crap is king
Give us dirty laundry!

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
 
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Contractors get the zoning they want because they show up at P&Z meetings. After it happens the neighbors wonder how there's a Kwik-E-Mart in their backyard.

This can't be stressed enough. It's the second-most decisive factor in local politics, which drives state politics which drives national politics. The first is bribery. Conservatives outwork liberals in both.
 
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Yup. Nobody wants to listen to folks to talk about the fundamentals.

No, it's no one wants to hear someone beat a dead horse over and over and over, and over and over and over, again.

You're not being profound. You're just being the equivalent of pee-wee herman going "I know you are but what am I." Or John Maddon saying, "The team that scores the most points will win."
 
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No, it's no one wants to hear someone beat a dead horse over and over and over, and over and over and over, again.

You're not being profound. You're just being the equivalent of pee-wee herman going "I know you are but what am I." Or John Maddon saying, "The team that scores the most points will win."

No, I'm stating why the loss happened.

No one likes hearing the truth about why a loss happened, especially when they're in denial about it. But the first step to fixing a problem is admitting it.
 
I don't believe this is true. I think it's that reporting on the intricacies and consequences of policy is difficult and requires newscasters who weren't just hired for their hair and legs. Network news is just not up to the task.

Nor is this an accident. Reporting on real things would require the networks to work contrary to the personal interests of their owners. The Founders designed a system to protect against censorship by public institutions, but they didn't count on the self-censorship by private entities.

Jornalism doesn't sell advertising. CNN was built up thanks to the Gulf War, but without a war it needed something. Slowly, networks needed to juice their "news" to make it more interesting, make people tune in, and sell ad time.

FOX News makes money pandering to the Republican base. MSNBC half-heartedly tried to emulate that for Democrats, but couldn't commit to the same lows on the opposite side as FOX News.

Al Jazeera America tried to interject BBC-esque reporting to the American audience (in fact, a LOT of Al Jazeera's worldwide staff are former BBC employees), but the stigma of being "Osama News Network," for actually reporting global news, coupled with cable companies carriage refusal proved traditional journalism is dead. Lying next to Walter Cronkite, Edward R. Murrow, and David Brinkley.
 
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So much for private sector people being more efficient.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/23/...ick&contentCollection=Trending&pgtype=article

“Our job is to be ready on Day 1,” Vice President Mike Pence said in Washington last week. “The American people can be confident that we will be.”

The American people have little cause for such confidence. Given that President Trump thinks, as he said in his inaugural speech, that the country is in desperate straits, it’s peculiar that he didn’t assemble a crack team in record time. Instead, he assumed office on Friday with the most incomplete team in recent history. Since then he’s seemed to focus more on his inaugural crowd size than on the immense job at hand.

An incoming president is expected to fill about 4,000 positions. Nominees for more than 1,100 of them must be confirmed by the Senate. It is impossible for any president to fill all these positions by Day 1. But transition veterans recommend that a new president have a White House team assembled — 450 people who don’t require Senate confirmation — and have nominees for the top 100 positions that must be Senate-confirmed.

Mr. Trump is not even in the ballpark. There are no nominees for three-quarters of the top 100 jobs. His White House staff, some 30 of whom were sworn in on Sunday, is light on governing experience. Yet many of those, like the former “Apprentice” and “Celebrity Apprentice” contestant Omarosa Manigault, the assistant to the president and director of communications for the Office of Public Liaison, carry the titles that rank highest.
 
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Your response is telling in that you don't even dispute the right media pursues an overt strategy of lying.

Breitbart and InfoWars are actually not a very fair comparison, because they're joke outlets like the National Enquirer or the Weekly World News -- the joke being on their consumers who are milked like rubes on the Midway. We have a daily reminder right here how effectively they can appeal to a rube's vanity and then fleece him. Though they do have relevancy now in that they have deep contacts within the Trump and Tea Party contingents.

But Fox was literally chartered to put out lies because the truth was causing too much trouble for Republicans. The creators were Nixon officials who wished they could have stopped the national media from reporting on Watergate. The Plan was to create an alternate reality that conservatives would enjoy because it ratified all their beliefs, and which would be far preferable to facts because it would never challenge their preconceptions. They created a TV network that was like a 19th century party newspaper.

Where WaPo and the NYT leaned toward a leftwards interpretation of information by reporting facts because their audience respected the science norm of fitting theory to fact, Fox and then the Hate Radio copy cats pursued a rightwards interpretation of information by reporting on the Revealed Truth of its prophets -- Reagan, Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck. They juxtaposed a conservative religious mentality to the liberal scientific method. Their users, steeped in that mindset from their fathers and pastors, were naturally attracted to "divine command" structures of authority.

It was so telling the right would shriek at the left's supposed blind allegiance to its leaders. They were not merely wrong but WILDLY wrong. The left does nothing but question and criticize its leaders, usually tearing them down. The right simply can't wrap their minds around that way of thought, so alien to their method of treating information as revelatory.
This made the rounds on facebook for a while. Notice how nobody on here actually cites any of those far left sites and Flaggy's only sources are the outrageous ones on the bottom right. http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/viral-chart-claims-fight-fake-news-promotes-biased-media
 
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No, I'm stating why the loss happened.

No one likes hearing the truth about why a loss happened, especially when they're in denial about it. But the first step to fixing a problem is admitting it.

Who is denying it? Seriously.

As far as I can tell, getting people active and interested is STEP ONE in fixing the problem. Thanks to the protests, there are many more people who will likely be more active in the upcoming elections.

To me, seems like bringing up information that everyone knows about, is being addressed live, etc- just distracts from what the administration is doing live.

The denial of truth and facts just makes more people mistrust government even more. Great. That's all we really need- more reason to mistrust EACH OTHER- since that is exactly what our government is.
 
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