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Politicians We Admire
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I recently went on at length about my admiration for Barry Goldwater. The guy was the personification of integrity. No reporter ever accused Golwater of straddling in answer to a question. You knew right where he stood. Hubert Humphrey is another one I admire: pushing for civil rights planks in the '48 convention of a party dominated by segregationists took balls.
I recently went on at length about my admiration for Barry Goldwater. The guy was the personification of integrity. No reporter ever accused Golwater of straddling in answer to a question. You knew right where he stood. Hubert Humphrey is another one I admire: pushing for civil rights planks in the '48 convention of a party dominated by segregationists took balls.
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MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
bigblue_dl
Armed
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For those of you not familiar with who I, and MNS, are talking about: http://www.johnkriesel.org/?page_id=2
Also: http://minnesporta.com/2012/05/07/photo-of-the-night-john-kriesel-needs-help/
For those of you not familiar with who I, and MNS, are talking about: http://www.johnkriesel.org/?page_id=2
Also: http://minnesporta.com/2012/05/07/photo-of-the-night-john-kriesel-needs-help/
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A lot to like there. Thanks for clueing us in. If he were a 2nd rate "comedian" or a broken down wrassler, he'd have a great political future in Minnesota. Maybe he can overcome those handicaps.
A lot to like there. Thanks for clueing us in. If he were a 2nd rate "comedian" or a broken down wrassler, he'd have a great political future in Minnesota. Maybe he can overcome those handicaps.
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duper
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And you may be on to something with that Kriesel guy. It's amazing how, at the state and local political levels, voting for what you think is right, and not the party line, is still ok.
Nah. We get used to this kind of stupidity, and it's not really worth commenting on.Not that I disagree, but I'm guessing that this comment will go over like a fart in church when the libs get in here.
And you may be on to something with that Kriesel guy. It's amazing how, at the state and local political levels, voting for what you think is right, and not the party line, is still ok.
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ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Life's a lot easier when you whip out the broad brush and start assuming that they all are just another politician, isn't it?
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I watched his hearing for his crimes. Yeah, I tuned into CSPANII or whatever channel it was on. It was a sad day. A guy who claimed to be in a party just so he could vote the way he wanted and have his voice heard? No matter how independent it was? Too good to be true! Wait, it was.
I watched his hearing for his crimes. Yeah, I tuned into CSPANII or whatever channel it was on. It was a sad day. A guy who claimed to be in a party just so he could vote the way he wanted and have his voice heard? No matter how independent it was? Too good to be true! Wait, it was.
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To my way of thinking, he was considerably worse than "just another politician." And one of the worst rugs in recorded history.
To my way of thinking, he was considerably worse than "just another politician." And one of the worst rugs in recorded history.
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The rug was hysterical. Off the charts.
He was so clean (legally) for so long, then boom. House of Cards.
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The rug was hysterical. Off the charts.
He was so clean (legally) for so long, then boom. House of Cards.
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If your only exposure to Chris Christie has been through the national media, then you are viewing a charicature....left-wing clown, right-wing savior, neither really fits.
Christie was a federal prosecutor before his election to governor. It shows. He does his homework and prepares meticulously. He knows the facts and the arguments and presents them in a coherent, organized, persuasive manner.
Since he has to convince the jury to vote in his favor, he rarely demeans those "on the other side." Typically he acknowledges all the valid points they make in their arguments, and then sets out on his rebuttal, as to why those points need to be set aside in order to deliver the proper verdict.
In other words, he manages politics in a way similar to the way he would manage a case in the courtroom. It works. He's been effective as a governor because he knows how to put together a winning argument, and he knows how to deliver it as well.
For example, during contract negotiations he'd say "teachers are great, teachers are wonderful, and we can't go overboard and pay them anything out of line with what we'd pay others. It's about overall budgetary balance." and he'd get the concessions he needed.
The difference between NJ and CA is instructive. The Feds offered CA some money to build high-speed rail, and Gov Brown accepted. The Feds offered NJ lots of money to build another tunnel under the Hudson to Manhattan, and Christie said "no thanks, we cannot afford all the strings attached." (all the cost overruns are billed to the state, not to the Feds) and he had enough sense to set priorities and live within them.
If your only exposure to Chris Christie has been through the national media, then you are viewing a charicature....left-wing clown, right-wing savior, neither really fits.
Christie was a federal prosecutor before his election to governor. It shows. He does his homework and prepares meticulously. He knows the facts and the arguments and presents them in a coherent, organized, persuasive manner.
Since he has to convince the jury to vote in his favor, he rarely demeans those "on the other side." Typically he acknowledges all the valid points they make in their arguments, and then sets out on his rebuttal, as to why those points need to be set aside in order to deliver the proper verdict.
In other words, he manages politics in a way similar to the way he would manage a case in the courtroom. It works. He's been effective as a governor because he knows how to put together a winning argument, and he knows how to deliver it as well.
For example, during contract negotiations he'd say "teachers are great, teachers are wonderful, and we can't go overboard and pay them anything out of line with what we'd pay others. It's about overall budgetary balance." and he'd get the concessions he needed.
The difference between NJ and CA is instructive. The Feds offered CA some money to build high-speed rail, and Gov Brown accepted. The Feds offered NJ lots of money to build another tunnel under the Hudson to Manhattan, and Christie said "no thanks, we cannot afford all the strings attached." (all the cost overruns are billed to the state, not to the Feds) and he had enough sense to set priorities and live within them.
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Calling Michele Bachmann 2nd-rate seems awfully generous.
I'd say Minnesota's 1st district rep Tim Walz is a pretty good one. His big accomplishment this term was introducing a bill that was eventually passed into law which bans members of Congress from insider trading...which was apparently a thing.
Calling Michele Bachmann 2nd-rate seems awfully generous.
I'd say Minnesota's 1st district rep Tim Walz is a pretty good one. His big accomplishment this term was introducing a bill that was eventually passed into law which bans members of Congress from insider trading...which was apparently a thing.
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Let it go. Let it go. The rest of the country has moved on. So should you.
Let it go. Let it go. The rest of the country has moved on. So should you.
jmh
win or lose, we booze
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He deserves enshrinement in the Bad Toupee Hall of Fame, if such a thing exists.
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The rug was hysterical. Off the charts.
He was so clean (legally) for so long, then boom. House of Cards.
He deserves enshrinement in the Bad Toupee Hall of Fame, if such a thing exists.
brookyone
Deport Right Wing Nuts
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I'm gonna have to sustain my anti Nut Job Bachmann agenda as a lifelong resident of her district...who's duly embarrassed by her election. Since she continues to broadcast her severe idiocy and apparently plans to remain in politics. It's my duty as an American and Minnesotan.
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The rest of the country doesn't still have her as a representative.
The rest of the country doesn't still have her as a representative.
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at least now we get to share her with the Swiss.....
I'm gonna have to sustain my anti Nut Job Bachmann agenda as a lifelong resident of her district...who's duly embarrassed by her election. Since she continues to broadcast her severe idiocy and apparently plans to remain in politics. It's my duty as an American and Minnesotan.
at least now we get to share her with the Swiss.....