MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
I started reading Thus Spake Zarathustra. Introductory philosophy book, but it's heavy reading.
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Philosophy 1: Wittgenstein was a beery swine who was just as sloshed as Schlegel
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MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
It's okay if you lied about reading Hegel.
It's always morally okay to lie about reading Hegel.
It's always morally okay to lie about reading Hegel.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
I have finished paragraph 3 of Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit. 805 to go.
I have decided to rewrite it as I go along.
So, here is what Hegel has said so far, paragraphs 1-3:
I am setting out to do something philosophical. Telling you my initial purpose would mislead you, because my aim will change as I gain comprehension through working it out. Likewise, when I finish I can't just come back here to the beginning and put it as a conclusion. That would be like beginning a man's life story with a snapshot of his corpse and calling that "conclusion." It is, but what have we gained? The whole book is the conclusion.
That took 3 pages. I'm surprised he gave it a title. Such a spoiler. Probably the publisher did that. Hegel would have just called it the White Album (which would be all one word in German).
I have decided to rewrite it as I go along.
So, here is what Hegel has said so far, paragraphs 1-3:
I am setting out to do something philosophical. Telling you my initial purpose would mislead you, because my aim will change as I gain comprehension through working it out. Likewise, when I finish I can't just come back here to the beginning and put it as a conclusion. That would be like beginning a man's life story with a snapshot of his corpse and calling that "conclusion." It is, but what have we gained? The whole book is the conclusion.
That took 3 pages. I'm surprised he gave it a title. Such a spoiler. Probably the publisher did that. Hegel would have just called it the White Album (which would be all one word in German).
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
At least you're being honest about it.
I'm currently going through Foucault. Everything is a prison. Even when it's not a prison, it's a prison.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
PoS paragraph 7:
Spirit (Geist) is what Heidegger would later call Dasein -- human being. It is "life in the universe aware of itself." Humans partake of Spirit directly; it is our will, the ghost in the machine. Spirit evolves over time into a more full and powerful form as it gains additional explanatory power over the universe it finds itself in. So while we individuals embody it it is not individual but cultural and communicable.
There was a prior historical stage where the most profound Truth digestible by Spirit was sufficiently simple that it could be intuitive. But because Spirit has evolved, the primative religious, externally-located, personified view of Truth is obsolete for those with greater awareness.
Like code or DNA, Spirit is both the operator and also all the tools it uses and what it operates upon -- it is both Creator and His Provisional Tools. So, if we want to keep seeking and progressing towards understanding, we need to make use of this internally-located sense of Creator, now. This is most effectively done, at least at our current stage, not with natural science but with art, culture, "enthusiasm that provokes ecstasy." That is how we can reunite the threads torn asunder by our coming of age and leaving our mystical childhood behind. "God is dead," but we can birth another model of Truth, this time fully aware it is a human-created step on a ladder, which we can use for a while and then throw away as we climb beyond it. From now on, all our Truths will be temporary and expected to be grown beyond.
Spirit (Geist) is what Heidegger would later call Dasein -- human being. It is "life in the universe aware of itself." Humans partake of Spirit directly; it is our will, the ghost in the machine. Spirit evolves over time into a more full and powerful form as it gains additional explanatory power over the universe it finds itself in. So while we individuals embody it it is not individual but cultural and communicable.
There was a prior historical stage where the most profound Truth digestible by Spirit was sufficiently simple that it could be intuitive. But because Spirit has evolved, the primative religious, externally-located, personified view of Truth is obsolete for those with greater awareness.
Like code or DNA, Spirit is both the operator and also all the tools it uses and what it operates upon -- it is both Creator and His Provisional Tools. So, if we want to keep seeking and progressing towards understanding, we need to make use of this internally-located sense of Creator, now. This is most effectively done, at least at our current stage, not with natural science but with art, culture, "enthusiasm that provokes ecstasy." That is how we can reunite the threads torn asunder by our coming of age and leaving our mystical childhood behind. "God is dead," but we can birth another model of Truth, this time fully aware it is a human-created step on a ladder, which we can use for a while and then throw away as we climb beyond it. From now on, all our Truths will be temporary and expected to be grown beyond.
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
Kep, it's been a few days. Are you surviving Hegel?
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Stripped of Hegel and Kant and trolleys and Chinese rooms and caves and Mary's room and monads and earth, air, fire, and water, stripped of all words, this is what philosophy is trying to do.
Philosophy is the radically subversive activity of stripping away all our bullshit and getting to The Point. Why don't we just let them eat?
No wonder we killed Socrates. That's some dangerous shit.
Philosophy is the radically subversive activity of stripping away all our bullshit and getting to The Point. Why don't we just let them eat?
No wonder we killed Socrates. That's some dangerous shit.