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Personality Test

MissThundercat said:
I find MBTI and The Enneagram to be astrology for the workforce.
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MBTI is Business Woo.

But when you scrape away all the MBA crap, and then you scape away all the Jungian crap, you are left with different approaches to the world by people -- different neural wiring. We are all fools, but we are fools in different ways, which cluster.
 
Kepler said:
MBTI is Business Woo.

But when you scrape away all the MBA crap, and then you scape away all the Jungian crap, you are left with different approaches to the world by people -- different neural wiring. We are all fools, but we are fools in different ways, which cluster.
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I think this is how I view it. I don't pay much attention to the jungian stuff. Among the big personality sorting machines, it's probably the "best". It's a good way to understand that I'm more data oriented but want to be presented to with bullets on the front sheet with tons of data in the support slides. I don't have much time for the stupid ice breaker crap.
 
I think the fact that I’m in healthcare as an INTJ, while a couple of us appear to be engineers, and whatever the f-ck Kep be doing in D.C., shows Myers-Briggs isn’t good at predicting much of anything, except that all INTJ’s love college hockey and USCHO. And, potentially, patting ourselves on the back.
 
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INTJ here, too. I wouldn’t expect any predictive value in what career you end up in, etc, but I do believe it affects our day-to-day interactions. I just went though a training course that utilized NASA’s “4-D” system, developed by an astrophysicist, that simplifies it to four basic categories: people who are focused on data, team, people, and vision. Thinking about which “type” is the audience for a presentation or paper really does make a difference - do you bury them with data or connect on the vision or the storytelling? I’m data all the way, but on our team my closest counterpart is just as hardcore in the “people” category - he basically is Ted Lasso. We’re both Engineers turned Directors, similar stages in our careers, etc, but our approach to executing our jobs could not be more different. When someone comes to me for help, they’d better bring sound data and have a good idea of the possible courses of action or I will experience the encounter as a giant waste of my time. If they’re going to see my friend, all they need is to tap into his natural empathy, and they will work through the problem arm in arm until they’ve solved it together. Both methods can be effective, but it helps big employees know which type of boss they are dealing with.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
I think this is how I view it. I don't pay much attention to the jungian stuff. Among the big personality sorting machines, it's probably the "best". It's a good way to understand that I'm more data oriented but want to be presented to with bullets on the front sheet with tons of data in the support slides. I don't have much time for the stupid ice breaker crap.
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Jung was a dab hand with the magic words, but all you really have to know about him is he sincerely believed in synchronicity. Not as a metaphor, but as an actuality of the universe. He was a very smart man who believed in Miller's Plate of Shrimp. So... he was a smart idiot.
 
psych said:
I think the fact that I’m in healthcare as an INTJ, while a couple of us appear to be engineers, and whatever the f-ck Kep be doing in D.C., shows Myers-Briggs isn’t good at predicting much of anything, except that all INTJ’s love college hockey and USCHO. And, potentially, patting ourselves on the back.
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It could be that we INTJs simply drove everyone else off the Cafe. Survivor bias.

But IINM INTJs do show up disproportionately in STEM.
 
psych said:
I think the fact that I’m in healthcare as an INTJ, while a couple of us appear to be engineers, and whatever the f-ck Kep be doing in D.C., shows Myers-Briggs isn’t good at predicting much of anything, except that all INTJ’s love college hockey and USCHO. And, potentially, patting ourselves on the back.
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You have a ton of introverted analysts, engineers, and such on here. When I take that M-B test, I usually come back with and INTJ result, but the I is usually soft. When I was playing hockey with a group 3-4x per week, that soft I came back as a soft E. I had found a good group of guys, and became comfortable with them. Something tells me the soft E was really a soft I wearing a mask. As soon as I had to quit hockey due to health issues, I found that introverted nature come out in full.
 
St. Clown said:
You have a ton of introverted analysts, engineers, and such on here. When I take that M-B test, I usually come back with and INTJ result, but the I is usually soft. When I was playing hockey with a group 3-4x per week, that soft I came back as a soft E. I had found a good group of guys, and became comfortable with them. Something tells me the soft E was really a soft I wearing a mask. As soon as I had to quit hockey due to health issues, I found that introverted nature come out in full.
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I read a description of INTJ once that stuck with me - it said, essentially, that our analytical nature can recognize that in some social situations, acting as an extrovert is the "optimal solution," so we can put on that mask, exactly as you describe. However, once we're out of that context and back on our own, we can relax and re-center as our more comfortable introverted selves.
 
LynahFan said:
I read a description of INTJ once that stuck with me - it said, essentially, that our analytical nature can recognize that in some social situations, acting as an extrovert is the "optimal solution," so we can put on that mask, exactly as you describe. However, once we're out of that context and back on our own, we can relax and re-center as our more comfortable introverted selves.
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After a social event, it takes a while for me to recover. I just want to be alone. Fortunately my wife is also a strong "I" so we both retire to separate rooms for a few hours.
 
LynahFan said:
I read a description of INTJ once that stuck with me - it said, essentially, that our analytical nature can recognize that in some social situations, acting as an extrovert is the "optimal solution," so we can put on that mask, exactly as you describe. However, once we're out of that context and back on our own, we can relax and re-center as our more comfortable introverted selves.
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This is actually dead-on for me when it comes to, say, work events or client meetings.
 
The substantial majority of the work in the last 20 years of my career was litigation related. There's no question that you have to thrive on the buzz you get in all but the most routine court work, but most successful trial lawyers I know are great preparers, and that work is quiet and largely solo. Most of trial work is preparation--having firm grip of the law and the facts, understanding where the witnesses are coming from, and having a strong writing game. Court work gives a buzz, but the more satisfying part, for me at least, was the prep time. I think that is why so many litigators like to be in the office early and on weekends, when there are no meetings and the phones are silent.

And I'd guess all that is true of most jobs that require both knowledge and performance and why many of you are commenting as you are.
 
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