Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-2013....No Slogans, Just Hockey

[OZFEST]

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My review of Potsdam's sport broadcast:
3. They're the Oswego State Lakers. Not the Oswego State Great Lakers. Not since '03 have they been called that.
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....and what a poor decision by the marketing department, signed the Alabama Crimson Tide.

 

[Birds]

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Oswego doesn't set aside tickets for visitors, they do have 2 sections that they put visitors in but there are usually just as many Oswego fans in those sections as there are fans from the visiting team. I know when I have called that I've never heard "oh you're from Plattsburgh, well we have seats set aside just for you." Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that I can go online or call and get my tickets early, but it's not like Oswego goes out of it's way to make sure Plattsburgh fans have tickets.

I agree. I will say I find it very convenient that I can call Oswego and have my tickets sent or held but you are right. No tickets are set aside for Plattsburgh fans. We always need to call early in the week. Concerning tickets tonight, all left over seats will be sold and standing room also. They don't usually ever turn anyone away.

 

[OSU2010]

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So a question about the playoffs, i know the ncaa says play 60 minutes and a 5 minute overtime if there's a tie, in sunyac playoff hockey they play overtimes till someone wins, if they play past the ncaa allotted time is it a tie in the eyes of the ncaa? I know last year two ecac-west teams decided in regular session play that if they ended in a tie after the 5 minute overtime they'd have a shootout. One of the teams won the shootout but the game was still considered a tie by the ncaa. I also heard that the ncaa considers league playoff games like regular season games which is why this question comes up.

 

[CamBear]

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My review of Potsdam's sport broadcast:
1. Great quality video
2. Pretty decent quality of announcers
3. They're the Oswego State Lakers. Not the Oswego State Great Lakers. Not since '03 have they been called that.
4. His name is Jones, not Brown. Jones is the goalie. Brown is a forward.

Well at least something went right for Potsdam hockey last night. :/

 

[toto238]

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So a question about the playoffs, i know the ncaa says play 60 minutes and a 5 minute overtime if there's a tie, in sunyac playoff hockey they play overtimes till someone wins, if they play past the ncaa allotted time is it a tie in the eyes of the ncaa? I know last year two ecac-west teams decided in regular session play that if they ended in a tie after the 5 minute overtime they'd have a shootout. One of the teams won the shootout but the game was still considered a tie by the ncaa. I also heard that the ncaa considers league playoff games like regular season games which is why this question comes up.

I know that all shootouts are considered ties by the ncaa right now. Last year Platty-Buffstate went to trip-OT in the semi-finals for the SUNYAC and I'm fairly certain that was just counted as a regular win for Platty by the NCAA. I could be wrong about that though.

 

[Dyce]

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I know that all shootouts are considered ties by the ncaa right now. Last year Platty-Buffstate went to trip-OT in the semi-finals for the SUNYAC and I'm fairly certain that was just counted as a regular win for Platty by the NCAA. I could be wrong about that though.

D3Hockey's NCAA rankings release following that game shows Plattsburgh with an additional win and only their four previous ties, so it appears you are correct.

 

[admiral0417]

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Keys to tonight's game: Cards must pressure Oswego breakout and prevent the stretch pass they like to use. Cassidy, Docking. A.Jensen must neutralize big line for Oswego.
Try to limit them to 1 or 2 goals and the game is winnable.Lakers can skate with Plattsburgh. Home crowd could help. On the flip side, Lakers seem to be clicking on all cylinders with Whitelaw back and are capable of scoring in bunches. Obviously both teams must stay out of box, but Oswego with a clear edge should they get some PP time. Hare must control rebounds. Both teams likely to be cautious early. It should be fun to watch!

 

[LakerEagleLover]

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Keys to tonight's game: Cards must pressure Oswego breakout and prevent the stretch pass they like to use. Cassidy, Docking. A.Jensen must neutralize big line for Oswego.
Try to limit them to 1 or 2 goals and the game is winnable.Lakers can skate with Plattsburgh. Home crowd could help. On the flip side, Lakers seem to be clicking on all cylinders with Whitelaw back and are capable of scoring in bunches. Obviously both teams must stay out of box, but Oswego with a clear edge should they get some PP time. Hare must control rebounds. Both teams likely to be cautious early. It should be fun to watch!

No arguments here - I hope all the seniors on the ice can take in the moment...last time this rivalry will be at Stafford for them...but not the last time they will meet??? Good luck and have fun, boys!

 

[toto238]

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No arguments here - I hope all the seniors on the ice can take in the moment...last time this rivalry will be at Stafford for them...but not the last time they will meet??? Good luck and have fun, boys!

Honestly, would any of us have been satisfied with anything less than a Platty-Oswego game in the SUNYAC championship? And isn't CC the perfect place for it?

 

[Birdwatcher]

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Honestly, would any of us have been satisfied with anything less than a Platty-Oswego game in the SUNYAC championship? And isn't CC the perfect place for it?

Every one has an opinion, and remember the definition of an opinion!!

 

[toto238]

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After tonight's game, I wonder how many Platty fans are going to start gloating about their 4-3 and 2-1 "blowouts". The Platty team from today was much much weaker than the team from last semester. Oswego made some VERY bad mistakes that aren't very typical of them at all. Have your party tonight, but don't get overconfident.

As for Oswego, tonight should be a huge wake-up call for the team. Against actually challenging teams (the caliber oswego can expect to face in the NCAA tourny) Oswego beat Hobart and lost twice each to Utica and Platty. If you're being generous, you can count the Genny wins. Oswego is great at destroying inferior teams, but keeps struggling with teams that are of similar skill.

Statistically, the only way Platty could expect to be eligible for a Pool C bid is if they won tonight, next week, and the SUNYAC championship (but of course they'd get the AQ for winning the championship so it wouldn't matter anyway). Basically, Plattsburgh had nothing to lose or really to gain besides honor in this game. As for Oswego, this game really puts in jeopardy the possibility of a Pool C bid. There will very likely be another Plattsburgh game (possibly two if both teams make it to the NCAA's), and Oswego needs to shape up quickly.

 

[Laker28]

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How long have you been following Oswego Toto? Very bad mistakes not typical of Oswego? Really? That is what has caused Oswego to lose many important games, bad mistakes and shaky goaltending.

At this point in the season a team of Oswego's pedigree should NOT need a wake up call, should NOT be making egregious defensive mistakes, should NOT be taking bad penalties and should NOT be wasting prime scoring chances in front of goal. Plattsburgh is a very good team especially at home but Oswego has all the experience and tons more offensive upside, if they could match Platty's heart and work ethic they would be almost untouchable. They have not been able to match it to this point and I think it is too late for them to find it and will have to hope that at some point their talent alone will be enough to take them through.

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

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After tonight's game, I wonder how many Platty fans are going to start gloating about their 4-3 and 2-1 "blowouts". The Platty team from today was much much weaker than the team from last semester. Oswego made some VERY bad mistakes that aren't very typical of them at all. Have your party tonight, but don't get overconfident.

As for Oswego, tonight should be a huge wake-up call for the team. Against actually challenging teams (the caliber oswego can expect to face in the NCAA tourny) Oswego beat Hobart and lost twice each to Utica and Platty. If you're being generous, you can count the Genny wins. Oswego is great at destroying inferior teams, but keeps struggling with teams that are of similar skill.

Statistically, the only way Platty could expect to be eligible for a Pool C bid is if they won tonight, next week, and the SUNYAC championship (but of course they'd get the AQ for winning the championship so it wouldn't matter anyway). Basically, Plattsburgh had nothing to lose or really to gain besides honor in this game. As for Oswego, this game really puts in jeopardy the possibility of a Pool C bid. There will very likely be another Plattsburgh game (possibly two if both teams make it to the NCAA's), and Oswego needs to shape up quickly.

No Plattsburgh fan with a pair of eyes would realistically call those results blowouts. It was a good hard-fought win. Oswego is definitely the more talented team, but the bounces were going going Plattsburgh's way, and the Lakers did not react positively to that and lost their composure. Ultimately, it came down to Cadieux playing slightly better than Hare. Seeing the third game in Oswego is an exciting prospect - but neither team can be looking that far ahead right now, otherwise that game won't happen.

Going into this game, we all knew Pool C was out of reach for the Cardinals. No Plattsburgh fan is holding on to any fantasies of an At-Large bid. Coach Emery even said in today's pre-game interview on WIRY that this game meant more to Oswego than to Plattsburgh, because it would make or break their Pool C chances should they not with the SUNYAC conference. Those chances are now broken. The SUNYAC will be a 1-team conference.

 

[LakerEagleLover]

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No Plattsburgh fan with a pair of eyes would realistically call those results blowouts. It was a good hard-fought win. Oswego is definitely the more talented team, but the bounces were going going Plattsburgh's way, and the Lakers did not react positively to that and lost their composure. Ultimately, it came down to Cadieux playing slightly better than Hare. Seeing the third game in Oswego is an exciting prospect - but neither team can be looking that far ahead right now, otherwise that game won't happen.

Going into this game, we all knew Pool C was out of reach for the Cardinals. No Plattsburgh fan is holding on to any fantasies of an At-Large bid. Coach Emery even said in today's pre-game interview on WIRY that this game meant more to Oswego than to Plattsburgh, because it would make or break their Pool C chances should they not with the SUNYAC conference. Those chances are now broken. The SUNYAC will be a 1-team conference.

Exactly - Digby in the post game on WNYO cited lack of composure and discipline "especially from seniors" was unacceptable..."3 after the whistle penalties...we get out goal tended a little and shoot ourselves in the foot...we underperformed in both games...its one and done time now...motivation to win or fear of losing - we shall find out..."

 

[Birdwatcher]

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After tonight's game, I wonder how many Platty fans are going to start gloating about their 4-3 and 2-1 "blowouts". The Platty team from today was much much weaker than the team from last semester. Oswego made some VERY bad mistakes that aren't very typical of them at all. Have your party tonight, but don't get overconfident.

As for Oswego, tonight should be a huge wake-up call for the team. Against actually challenging teams (the caliber oswego can expect to face in the NCAA tourny) Oswego beat Hobart and lost twice each to Utica and Platty. If you're being generous, you can count the Genny wins. Oswego is great at destroying inferior teams, but keeps struggling with teams that are of similar skill.

Statistically, the only way Platty could expect to be eligible for a Pool C bid is if they won tonight, next week, and the SUNYAC championship (but of course they'd get the AQ for winning the championship so it wouldn't matter anyway). Basically, Plattsburgh had nothing to lose or really to gain besides honor in this game. As for Oswego, this game really puts in jeopardy the possibility of a Pool C bid. There will very likely be another Plattsburgh game (possibly two if both teams make it to the NCAA's), and Oswego needs to shape up quickly.

You have been reading too many Utica posts. There is NO Plattsburgh fan that would call either game blowouts. Why can't you just admit that Plattsburgh outplayed Oswego. I still think Oswego has more talent and skill, but the aggressive play of Plattsburgh negated it. The aggressive play is partially proven by the penalties; almost twice as many minutes as they average per game.

 

[toto238]

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Need I point out that Oswego faced a very similar situation in 2007? With 3 ties and a loss to Utica on their record (similar to Oswego's record before tonight) Oswego dropped a 4-1 contest to Plattsburgh in their second to last game of the reg season. Talk about limping into the playoffs. And as if that weren't bad enough, in their first SUNYAC tournament game Oswego drops a 3-2 OT contest to Fredonia. Yet somehow, after losing 2 of their last 3 games, and 3 of their last 9, Oswego gets an at-large bid. So Oswego takes a bad loss right before the SUNYAC playoffs and then again right before the NCAA playoffs. Quite possibly the worst end-of-season run Oswego has had that still led to the NCAA's. And I think we both know how that story ended.

Yes Oswego can still make a good season out of this. Is this how they envisioned themselves at this point in the season? Absolutely not. But just remember, it ain't over till it's over. In case you need a reminder, Hobart tied Oswego at the 19:59.9 mark in their game to go to OT. Amherst tied Oswego at the 19:38 mark to make it to OT. These teams knew it wasn't over until it was over. But Oswego was still able to end those games in their favor, because Oswego too recognized that it wasn't over until it's over.

I know we all hope for a perfect season with every game a blowout. That's generally not the way it happens. Keep crossing your fingers because it ain't over.

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

Need I point out that Oswego faced a very similar situation in 2007? With 3 ties and a loss to Utica on their record (similar to Oswego's record before tonight) Oswego dropped a 4-1 contest to Plattsburgh in their second to last game of the reg season. Talk about limping into the playoffs. And as if that weren't bad enough, in their first SUNYAC tournament game Oswego drops a 3-2 OT contest to Fredonia. Yet somehow, after losing 2 of their last 3 games, and 3 of their last 9, Oswego gets an at-large bid. So Oswego takes a bad loss right before the SUNYAC playoffs and then again right before the NCAA playoffs. Quite possibly the worst end-of-season run Oswego has had that still led to the NCAA's. And I think we both know how that story ended.

Yes Oswego can still make a good season out of this. Is this how they envisioned themselves at this point in the season? Absolutely not. But just remember, it ain't over till it's over. In case you need a reminder, Hobart tied Oswego at the 19:59.9 mark in their game to go to OT. Amherst tied Oswego at the 19:38 mark to make it to OT. These teams knew it wasn't over until it was over. But Oswego was still able to end those games in their favor, because Oswego too recognized that it wasn't over until it's over.

I know we all hope for a perfect season with every game a blowout. That's generally not the way it happens. Keep crossing your fingers because it ain't over.

Nobody said this thing was over. All I said was that the SUNYAC team have one way to the tournament, and that's Pool A. I hope we get to see a 3rd game between these teams in 2 weeks' time, and I hope it's as entertaining for both sides as this one was.

It's postseason time. You can forget about all your wins, all your losses. It's win or go home time. Should the Cardinals make another trip to Campus Center in March, this game and the one in December will mean nothing, and any Plattsburgh fan who thinks that the trophy is already win just because of the Regular Season sweep is a fool.

 

[admiral0417]

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I didn't see any "very bad mistakes" by Oswego tonight except for the blatant hit's after the whistle. A couple of them were probably warranted with some whacking at Hare ....but you can't do those things in games like these. As far as the Cards being "weaker" than they were in the first semester, I have no idea what you could be talking about. They were 9-5-1 and are now 18-6-1 !! Tonight's game was pretty evenly matched with the Cards outshooting the by a bit. That was not the case in the first meeting when the Cards popped two early ones and then held on for dear life. Except for a stinker loss to Fredonia a couple of weeks ago, they would have won the SUNYAC title tonight.

Oswego's forwards are the best I've seen this year. A tad better than Norwich's although not quite as deep. The defense and goaltending are good, not great. Plattsburgh's goalie and defensemen won that game tonight. That and a lot of grit. It didn't mean a thing for us other than pride. It's going to be very, very tough for Plattsburgh to beat Oswego 3 times if both teams are fortunate enough to meet again. That one will be for all the marbles. (P.S. Whitelaw is a superb hockey player)

 

[LakerEagleLover]

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...the dog has been in Kansas too long, I think... In the losses to Plattsburgh and Utica, Oswego underperformed...how much of that was due to their opponents outplaying them or the Lakers not executing is open for debate - one that would make for great pre-game bar banter at Greene's before the championship game, if both teams are fortunate enough to get there...Lakers got beat tonight...the got beat in the campus center (twice) and the Aud... Having said that, they have achieved all the goals they set thus far - win the Pathfinder, secure the #1 seed by winning the reg season title...the remaining goals are the SUNYAC Championship and the NCAA Championship....both TBD.

 

[97osu]

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Honestly, would any of us have been satisfied with anything less than a Platty-Oswego game in the SUNYAC championship? And isn't CC the perfect place for it?

The perfect place would be on neutral ice at the Utica Aud