Oswego State Laker Hockey 2012-2013....No Slogans, Just Hockey

[LakerEagleLover]

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[skipperbob]

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You don't get to 3 straight National Semifinals without doing some (a lot) of things right.

I would bet dollars to donuts that Oswego went over all week how to attack the 1-3-1. They just did not execute when it counted. It happens, and when it does, as a coach it's really frustrating.

I agree... it was disappointing but hardly a disaster. On the first goal I don't think Hare even saw it, lots of bodies in front and hard to fault a goaltender when his defense turns it over and gives up a clear breakaway. Would have been nice if he'd been able to save it but can't expect it. Was frustrating to see the Lakers unable to solve a defense they have seen so many times before, the offense mainly consisted of big slap shots that went into the goalies pads or were blocked by the defense. All credit to Plattsburg, they played excellent defense that Oswego couldn't pick apart. A couple of different bounces and could have gone the other way - just a typical Oswego-Plattsburg game.

 

[bakdraft21]

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fun trip as always to Oz...could have had a better night sat but --it happens...The Postdam game we looked very sharp,crisp passes,tick tack toe stuff for most of the goals,the bears hit 2 posts that could have changed the completion of the game but dont think it would have mattered in the long run,good win against a pretty solid team as they went down to Cort and beat a team that Platty tied the night b4. dmen moved the puck well and goalie did his job,nuff said...Platty sat night,GREAT crowd all the way thru, and no fire alarm..my first impression was that the ice sucked, very choppy after 7 or 8 mins, BUT it was like that for both teams,this could have been due to the womens game b4 and not to low temps out side,Refs,ill just say not up to what one would want at a top level D3 game,again same for both teams..As for the game nice job by platty, they had a plan for sure, as mention previously 1-3-1 it killed us thru the neutral zone where we usually gain most of our speed,coach G will have a better plan for that next time I am sure..first 30 mins the cards where beating us to every puck and winning the battles,next 30 we looked much better,but not enough in the end, yes 5 posts,dont want to here it the posts are out there for both teams..our PP needs to find a new way to score besides the pass across and the blast,platty had it covered with a forward and dman and the netminder was at the far post b4 the shot even was off,perhaps we need some more traffic in front of the net,we had little all game..our pen killing was stellar nuff said..goalies both played well, we have to look top shelf as he took away all the lower part of the net,we missed many times high and wide,but that will come with more time and playing some better competition, this was our 1st REAL test fans and platty played 2 fast paced games at the Primlink last week.. As for depth and not having whitelaw,look at platty they were missing a boat load of guys,it happens ...bottom line not a bad loss as they say,these 2 teams will be there in the end as we know....didnt see the spear but im sure if was what everyone seems to be writting he will be taken care of by the staff and perhaps others..ok VERY tough weekend coming up with Utica and Hobart......ps Platty fans traveled very well as usual..pps,forgot.. man did platty block a million shots or was it my imagination

 

[OSUPBPMike]

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[PSUChamps2001]

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I think you really started to see the toll of being so shorthanded late in the third period. I know Oswego would have taken Whitelaw on defense over nothing at all, but one of Plattsburghs best forwards was put back to cover D. Oswego will be fine all season. As Emery put on Twitter, it could have gone either way. Way to many ticky-tack penalties both ways. Hopefully I make it to the Cooler Saturday, want to get a look at this Hobart Hype.

 

[admiral0417]

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With Emery, if you're not willing to lay out and block shots, you won't be around long. Great gameplan by coaching staff. I think it had more to do with the missing personnel. Nick Jensen was a trooper switching back to defense for the first time. I notice a significant dropoff in Oswego's PP without Whitelaw. Cadieux is a goalie we EXPECT to win some games for us.
It puts the Cards back in the SUNYAC hunt anyway. But Genny isn't going away. Maybe we can beat Norwich and put you guys right back at #1 !!

 

[bakdraft21]

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With Emery, if you're not willing to lay out and block shots, you won't be around long. Great gameplan by coaching staff. I think it had more to do with the missing personnel. Nick Jensen was a trooper switching back to defense for the first time. I notice a significant dropoff in Oswego's PP without Whitelaw. Cadieux is a goalie we EXPECT to win some games for us.
It puts the Cards back in the SUNYAC hunt anyway. But Genny isn't going away. Maybe we can beat Norwich and put you guys right back at #1 !!

no thanks on the #1,but best of luck vs the cadets,whitelaw is big no doubt but as I wrote you guys were missing many as well,its part of the game as the ice,refs,and posts..ps Cadieux stood on his head a few times down the end,and MAY? have helped to steal one???

 

[Laker28]

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Oswego did miss Whitelaw's big play potential but really Moodie and Rodder are sufficient game breakers as well so it shouldn't really matter. As coach Gosek said after the game a lack of hustle got them. It wasn't every player but too many guys let up on some 50-50 pucks especially around the Platty net. If they can figure out a way to not get frustrated so easily they will be in a good position to win some hardware.

Also, I am sure I am the only one but I think Gilbert should start against Utica on Friday. Not because of anything Hare has done wrong but I think you need to see what he can do. I realize the potential is there for a transfer to come in or some freshman stud next year but I don't think it is wise to put your faith in that with the way Oswego has had trouble bringing in goalies. Utica is a very good team and it is not league game so you don't have to worry about the standings. Give him a short leash and put Hare in if he falters early.

 

[Pioneers#1]

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Will Whitelaw be back for Friday's game against Utica? (Hope I'm not offending anyone by asking)

 

[93GreatLaker]

Also, I am sure I am the only one but I think Gilbert should start against Utica on Friday. Not because of anything Hare has done wrong but I think you need to see what he can do. I realize the potential is there for a transfer to come in or some freshman stud next year but I don't think it is wise to put your faith in that with the way Oswego has had trouble bringing in goalies. Utica is a very good team and it is not league game so you don't have to worry about the standings. Give him a short leash and put Hare in if he falters early.

I disagree. Oswego needs to play the goalie that gives them the best chance of winning. With the Laker track record when it comes to earning the SUNY automatic bid, this weekends games are very important. Both opponents will more than likely be Pool C candidates come tourney time and a couple of H2H victories plus wins vs ranked teams (should both be ranked at seasons end) will go a long way should Oswego need the Pool C bid again this season.

 

[97osu]

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Will Whitelaw be back for Friday's game against Utica? (Hope I'm not offending anyone by asking)

I think it is a game time decision? Don't know if he has been in full practice or just skating around with team? Or, they make him heal, and come back in January?

 

[Pioneers#1]

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I think it is a game time decision? Don't know if he has been in full practice or just skating around with team? Or, they make him heal, and come back in January?

Thanks for info! Yeah, I'm assuming all you Oz fans would really love to see him be back for Friday's game.

On another note, If I were old Eddie over there, I would definitely go with Andrew Hare Friday night against Utica. You go with the hot goalie, so you don't skew the team chemistry and all. Utica has so much to improve on this week from our sloppy win over Buffalo State in Overtime Saturday night... I would expect to see Therrien for Utica start on Friday night against you guys because he's our hot goalie at the moment.

Oswego just has to play their game and do much of what they did against Plattsburgh. The goalposts were just not friendly to them, they had the shots, They just were a tad bit off with the accuracy part in my opinion.

Honestly, my biggest fear with Utica and Oswego is Utica's disciplinary problem. We cannot take stupid penalties, because it's not if Oswego will score, it's when. Shoot early and often, can't say that enough to Utica.

But hey, ya never know. Anything can happen. Both teams need to make a few changes from our games this weekend, stay disciplined and apply pressure with constant shots all night and it should shape to be a great game Friday night, not only between the teams but between your student section and our Fan club's presence.

 

[vcxc3200]

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Several HUGH things were appearent in last nights game. Emory out coached Ed. Ed did nothing to break the 1-3-1 in the first period. Not that he hasn't saw if for what the 12 years or so. Emory had his players ready to go. Not to for the Lakers if they could have won they would be in the cat bird seat for the SUNYAC's Now they must beat Platty in Platty to keep that assuming they win all the rest of the SUNY Games. Hare looked terrible in the first. Most importantly there seemed to me no leadership on the ice a HUGH hole now is appearent with Whitlaw out. One big plus for the Lakers they looked great on the PPK. Platty has a good PP unit and is usually very effecient.
The Cards goalie was extremely impressive and I haven't seen a college goalie that cool with so many shots like he took in the third ever. The Cards were diffently the better team last night.
Oswego'89

.....Who is Hugh?

 

[Laker28]

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I knew I would get the same old bs about the hot hand and the goalie that gives them the best chance to win. First, Hare isn't really the hot hand, he is good no doubt but if Oswego plays committed team defense and capitalizes on offense I could probably get a W for them. Besides how does anyone know if Gilbert gives them a chance to win? He played one period of the USA game and was excellent and I want to see what he does in a game that counts. It's not like they would be throwing some club team scrub in there the kid has good credentials. I am sure Hare will start because Eddie loves the status quo but I have always been a fan of coaches that like to mix it up a little.

If they worrying about their track record of SUNYAC failures then they are doomed to repeat them. You spend the season preparing yourself to win the big ones sometimes that means preparing for all possibilities. If Hare were to get hurt then you would be relying on a shaky Jones and an untested Gilbert. Not wanting to screw with chemistry is how teams can become stagnant and complacent which is why Plattsburgh wins so often, Bob doesn't let his teams stagnate, after games like he would make some changes and even if they don't work that night, they usually pay dividends later.

 

[OSU2010]

I knew I would get the same old bs about the hot hand and the goalie that gives them the best chance to win. First, Hare isn't really the hot hand, he is good no doubt but if Oswego plays committed team defense and capitalizes on offense I could probably get a W for them. Besides how does anyone know if Gilbert gives them a chance to win? He played one period of the USA game and was excellent and I want to see what he does in a game that counts. It's not like they would be throwing some club team scrub in there the kid has good credentials. I am sure Hare will start because Eddie loves the status quo but I have always been a fan of coaches that like to mix it up a little.

If they worrying about their track record of SUNYAC failures then they are doomed to repeat them. You spend the season preparing yourself to win the big ones sometimes that means preparing for all possibilities. If Hare were to get hurt then you would be relying on a shaky Jones and an untested Gilbert. Not wanting to screw with chemistry is how teams can become stagnant and complacent which is why Plattsburgh wins so often, Bob doesn't let his teams stagnate, after games like he would make some changes and even if they don't work that night, they usually pay dividends later.

They're tried and tested with hare, if the team in front of him has confidence in their goalie it makes them feel allot better and gives them confidence when they play, look at the things Morrisville was able to pull off when they had Caylin Relkoff. I mean come on they lost one game by 1 goal, its not the end of the world here.

 

[Laker28]

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No it isn't the end of the world. I am not saying you need to hit the panic button because they lost a game, quite the opposite really. By saying Hare absolutely has to start is to say that the Utica game is a must win game, it isn't. Those games happen in February and March. Obviously you don't want to go on a losing streak and the at large implications are there but if Oswego is as good as we all think they are they will do fine no matter who is in goal. Look what happened when Jones had to play his first ever meaningful minutes, they beat Utica.

I feel that Hare is a tested commodity and the team has confidence in him and as long as he is in there when crunch time rolls around they will be fine. I think they need to have a little confidence in the other options in case Hare falters or can't go for whatever reason. A team with so many upperclassmen should be able to adapt and play just as confident in front of Gilbert or Jones as they do in front of Hare. Plus we have seen this group of Seniors step all over some pretty good competition for three years now and come up short in the end, what is the harm in trying to do something a little different to keep habits from forming that could come back to bite you in the end.

 

[Ozz]

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The only thing I don't like about starting Gilbert this weekend is that Hobart and Utica are likely to be ranked (the only rankings that matter ~ The Regional Rankings) at the end of the year. With Record Against Ranked Opponents one of the componenets for a Pool C bid, I would rather see Gilbert in the Plymouth State and/or Nazereth game. As a coach, you have the expectation of getting the Pool A bid, but you also have to be cognisant of all factors.

Not only are these games important for potential Pool C bids, but they are also important when it comes to seeding for the tournament. Even if Oswego were to win the SUNYAC and get the Pool A bid, the difference between a win and a loss to a Utica or Hobart in December could mean the differece between a first-round bye or playing in the Play-In Round. Or it could mean the difference in playing an ECAC-W opponent in the Quarterfinal versus playing a the winner of MASCAC (No disrespect intended to the MASCAC).

 

[admiral0417]

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All true. They all count in one way or another. I'll give you an example: PLattsburgh loses a seemingly meaningless conference game against Brockport late in the year last year. The NCAA decides to send Plattsburgh TO Amherst for a one-and-in. If Plattsburgh had won that game vs. Brockport a couple of weeks prior, Amherst would've come to Plattsburgh and the whole game could have been different.

Translation: Play 'em all tough, you don't which one could help you or bite you in the rear.

 

[LakerEagleLover]

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Losses in December are easier to take if it makes you better to win that last game in March... Having said that, I agree with Ozzy and The Admiral here - the "curiosity" that is the NCAA does make these upcoming games far more important than people realize. As far as a controversy in net...I'm not buying it. The hit to Grace (should have been a whistle, glad he returned) and the delay while he received medical attention had as much to do with the outcome IMHO - the energy in the room was lost, the crowd subdued...oh, and the two goals that followed....Cards "had it" and the Lakers did not.... The last 10 minutes - some great hockey....a comeback was possible, but not probable... congrats to Bob and his Cards - they were ready to play and did what they had to do to win.

 

[bakdraft21]

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Some thoughts - Some underdogs have a defeatist attitude others rise to the occasion. Seldom do I consider either Plattsburgh or Oswego as underdogs in relation to each other, but this years Oswego's senior laden team is one to be reckoned with. I'm hoping to see Oswego with only 2 more losses - February 16 & March 2 . Being undefeated is nice, but it is monkey on your back, and it helps the underdogs rise to the occasion - they can play as if they have nothing to lose. I am glad for the huge DIII fan base Utica has and what Utica brings to DIII hockey, but I am looking forward to Oswego putting a nice shellacking on them.

I like that word SHELLACKING, but dont think it will happens, hopefully a win, but thanks