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Oswego 2011 Playoff and Offseason Thread: Hips and Nips or We Don't Win!

Re: Oswego 2011 Playoff and Offseason Thread: Hips and Nips or We Don't Win!

Now that I have a moment:

Saturday's game was probably the most back and forth game I've seen Oswego play since the 2009 SUNYAC Finals in Plattsburgh. I was very impressed by how Bowdoin kept responding and kept it a one goal game until halfway thru the third. Truth be told, the persistence they showed had me very worried and I was starting to get a feeling eerily similar to the Fredonia game - other than the goal count that is.

That being said, Oswego's resiliency to not get down after any of Bowdoin's equalizers was just as impressive. To take the lead only to lose it is tough when it happens once or twice, but four times is a very hard pill to swallow. I'm very glad to see the Lakers didn't let it get to them and kept playing some good hockey. They have to continue to play with that mentality if they want to be holding the trophy on the 26th.

Beckwith obviously had his issues letting in 2 or 3 soft goals however you look at it. However he is normally a stalwart between the pipes and we just have to hope that those issues are behind him. I'm sure there was no one watching or listening to that game who was more disappointed in Paul than himself. The Lakers are certainly going to need him at his best - minimizing both his and the defense's mistakes - going forward and I think he has proven we can have confidence that he'll be up to the task.

Owen Kelly's GWG was a thing of beauty - a terrific wrist shot (ala Joe Hall ;)) born out of pure hustle and refusing to be denied a shot on net. IMO it was absolutely the turning point of the game not so much because it gave us a two goal lead, but you just sensed the Lakers were fully intent on not letting the game end unless they had more goals on the scoreboard.

I have no illusions that Adrian will be a cake walk for the Lakers. Every single team heading to Ridder is capable of winning it all and I'm sure they all feel they have high expectations to fulfill. The Lakers will have to be firing on all cylinders to win their next two games. Will it be tough? You bet. Can they do it? Absolutely.

So Let's Go Lakers!
 
Re: Oswego 2011 Playoff and Offseason Thread: Hips and Nips or We Don't Win!

Agreed two-niner... This year's Lakers do not have a panic mode - they responded well and would not be denied... Beckwith will be fine - Titanic had a statement game - and most of all, this team showed up from the very beginning and played hard the entire game...

I heard Gosek in the post-game news conference on WNYO say a couple things worth repeating - "Bowdoin was the best transition team we faced all year - our D had to work real hard - we don't have many (any?) teams that send four into the zone consistently like Bowdoin..." "The speed of play, their transition game and how it affected us early tells me I should have scrimmaged more in practice - that's my fault - we needed more speed play and scrimmage in practice...."

The guys get to go home for a few days, then back on campus Thursday for the final preparations....

I agree that anyone who makes it this far can win it all, but they way this team faced down a very tough Bowdoin squad has me liking our chances....
 
Re: Oswego 2011 Playoff and Offseason Thread: Hips and Nips or We Don't Win!

Ozz said:
This is why you keep your head up in open ice...
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A hit like that will get you suspended in the NHL. That is about as dirty as it gets.

For the game he had three 5 minute majors (one for fighting, the other two put his team down), and a game misconduct. Toronto scored 3 times while he was in the box. There is a fine line between being aggressive and being reckless.
 
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93GreatLaker said:
A hit like that will get you suspended in the NHL. That is about as dirty as it gets.

For the game he had three 5 minute majors (one for fighting, the other two put his team down), and a game misconduct. Toronto scored 3 times while he was in the box. There is a fine line between being aggressive and being reckless.
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From the D & C...

Selleck suspended for four games by AHL; Oberg out
Filed by Kevin Oklobzija @ 4:12 pm on March 14, 2011

Amerks rookie left winger Eric Selleck has been suspended for four games by the American Hockey League.

The suspension is punishment for his actions in Friday’s 6-5 loss to the Toronto Marlies, when he was given major penalties for boarding, interference and fighting.

I’m assuming the suspension is only for the interference major, a solid open-ice shoulder check on Joe Colborne well after the Marlies center had passed the puck.

That assumption was incorrect. It is the understanding of Amerks coach Chuck Weber that Selleck was given one game for his boarding major (a hit from behind on D Matt Lashoff) and three games for the hit on Colborne.

The NHL and AHL are trying to stop blind-sided hits.

“As long as there’s consistency throughout the league, then I understand the punishment,” Weber said.

Colborne was unable to return to the game after the hit 10 minutes into the second period. After the game he said he hoped the league would punish Selleck, especially since the Amerk winger had delivered two illegal checks in the game.

Weber won’t understand the Selleck punshiment, however, if Hamilton Bulldogs center Gabriel Dumont isn’t punishment.

Dumont was given a boarding major early in the third period of Sunday’s 6-5 win at Hamilton for a dangerous check from behind on Amerk defenseman Evan Oberg.

Oberg was about two feet from the boards, Weber said, and was driven head-first to the boards. He will be out at least 10 to 14 days, and that’s an optimistic viewpoint.

“I’m curious to see how the league is going to deal with the Dumont hit,” Weber said.

Also, wingers Patrick Rissmiller and Michael Duco were recalled (on an emergency basis). The parent Florida Panthers don’t have any straight recalls left and can only bring up players when they have injuries.

Apparently Selleck and RW Jordan Knackstedt were sent back to the Amerks by the Panthers, though I don’t know if they ever left town. They were called up on Sunday after forwards Tim Kennedy and Bill Thomas were sent down.

When Kennedy and Thomas returned to help the Amerks, someone needed to go up because, Weber said, NHL rules require 20 healthy players on rosters at all times. Sounds more like this is an alleged requirement, since the New Jersey Devils played short for several games this season.
 
Re: Oswego 2011 Playoff and Offseason Thread: Hips and Nips or We Don't Win!

LakerEagleLover said:
From the D & C...

Selleck suspended for four games by AHL; Oberg out
Filed by Kevin Oklobzija @ 4:12 pm on March 14, 2011

Amerks rookie left winger Eric Selleck has been suspended for four games by the American Hockey League.

The suspension is punishment for his actions in Friday’s 6-5 loss to the Toronto Marlies, when he was given major penalties for boarding, interference and fighting.

I’m assuming the suspension is only for the interference major, a solid open-ice shoulder check on Joe Colborne well after the Marlies center had passed the puck.

That assumption was incorrect. It is the understanding of Amerks coach Chuck Weber that Selleck was given one game for his boarding major (a hit from behind on D Matt Lashoff) and three games for the hit on Colborne.

The NHL and AHL are trying to stop blind-sided hits.

“As long as there’s consistency throughout the league, then I understand the punishment,” Weber said.

Colborne was unable to return to the game after the hit 10 minutes into the second period. After the game he said he hoped the league would punish Selleck, especially since the Amerk winger had delivered two illegal checks in the game.

Weber won’t understand the Selleck punshiment, however, if Hamilton Bulldogs center Gabriel Dumont isn’t punishment.

Dumont was given a boarding major early in the third period of Sunday’s 6-5 win at Hamilton for a dangerous check from behind on Amerk defenseman Evan Oberg.

Oberg was about two feet from the boards, Weber said, and was driven head-first to the boards. He will be out at least 10 to 14 days, and that’s an optimistic viewpoint.

“I’m curious to see how the league is going to deal with the Dumont hit,” Weber said.

Also, wingers Patrick Rissmiller and Michael Duco were recalled (on an emergency basis). The parent Florida Panthers don’t have any straight recalls left and can only bring up players when they have injuries.

Apparently Selleck and RW Jordan Knackstedt were sent back to the Amerks by the Panthers, though I don’t know if they ever left town. They were called up on Sunday after forwards Tim Kennedy and Bill Thomas were sent down.

When Kennedy and Thomas returned to help the Amerks, someone needed to go up because, Weber said, NHL rules require 20 healthy players on rosters at all times. Sounds more like this is an alleged requirement, since the New Jersey Devils played short for several games this season.
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Looking at the hit, was it late? Absolutely. Blind side? No. In professional hockey you can't watch your passes like that. Your head should be straight ahead. Selleck's got to know not to hit a player two seconds after he passes it, but I hate how every hard it is being dubbed as "blind-side" now. The suspension should be a result of the lateness of the hit, not the location, which was fantastic by the way.
 
Re: Oswego 2011 Playoff and Offseason Thread: Hips and Nips or We Don't Win!

so I guess Selleck was on his way up but got sent back b4 he could even get there??
 
collegehcky2 said:
Looking at the hit, was it late? Absolutely. Blind side? No. In professional hockey you can't watch your passes like that. Your head should be straight ahead. Selleck's got to know not to hit a player two seconds after he passes it, but I hate how every hard it is being dubbed as "blind-side" now. The suspension should be a result of the lateness of the hit, not the location, which was fantastic by the way.
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I don't care what level of hockey it is, if you hit someone who does not have the puck and they are not looking at you it is a blind-side hit. Why would the player be looking out toward the other end (where Selleck came from) and not at the play that was developing after the pass was made. Nobody should have an expectation of getting hit a full two seconds after they have given up the puck. Hence why a 3 game suspension was warranted. I am all for aggressive hockey, and I will agree with you that many clean hits are painted with the blind-side brush, but this hit is not one of those.

Regardless, he seems to have the full support of his coach, which is good. He is having a great season (playing his role) and seems to have received the attention of the big club. One late hit doesn't change any of that.
 
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93GreatLaker said:
I don't care what level of hockey it is, if you hit someone who does not have the puck and they are not looking at you it is a blind-side hit. Why would the player be looking out toward the other end (where Selleck came from) and not at the play that was developing after the pass was made. Nobody should have an expectation of getting hit a full two seconds after they have given up the puck. Hence why a 3 game suspension was warranted. I am all for aggressive hockey, and I will agree with you that many clean hits are painted with the blind-side brush, but this hit is not one of those.

Regardless, he seems to have the full support of his coach, which is good. He is having a great season (playing his role) and seems to have received the attention of the big club. One late hit doesn't change any of that.
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I'm not going to get into a debate of what a blind-side hit's definition is, but I do agree with you about the bolded portion. What I'm saying is that you can't admire passes like that in open ice. One of the first things I learned when I was playing hockey was to keep your head up, if Colborne makes the pass and picks his head up, that hit doesn't happen. Eric definitely deserved a suspension for it, though.

And to bakdraft, Selleck wasn't on the clear day roster for the Amerks so he was technically in hockey pergatory where he wasn't actually on a team roster. The limited callups for both the NHL and AHL necessitate an injury for a player like Selleck to play. Odds are Selleck is done for the year.
 
collegehcky2 said:
What I'm saying is that you can't admire passes like that in open ice. One of the first things I learned when I was playing hockey was to keep your head up, if Colborne makes the pass and picks his head up, that hit doesn't happen.
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Dude's head was up, his problem was he was following the play (as he should, they were on a scoring rush). Even if he were looking at Selleck that play still happens, Selleck was laying him out know matter what.
 
Re: Oswego 2011 Playoff and Offseason Thread: Hips and Nips or We Don't Win!

thnks Gibrony was just curious, he has not scored much, but has bruised his knuckles for sure, wasnt sure why they would call him up unless they needed to mix it up.....
 
Re: Oswego 2011 Playoff and Offseason Thread: Hips and Nips or We Don't Win!

Congrats on your season, and good luck to the Great Lakers tonight! It will be a great game! May the winner of this game be victorious on Saturday!
 
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