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Open Wheel Racing 2021, anyone there to watch?

MichVandal said:
And the other big news since the last post is Adrian Newey signing with Aston Martin. While I think it's great that he's going to a opportunity team, I also think it's time to pull the plug on Lance Stroll- so IMHO, Newey's effort is wasted on him.
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I listen to the ESPN F1 podcast, and their reporters are very connected. One of them said he was talking to someone high up on Aston Martin. The basic gist is people do not realize how all in Lawrence is with his son. To the point where no one on the team can criticize Lance whatsoever if they ever expect to keep their job (just listen to the way Alonso talks about Lance, something Fernando has never done with an inferior teammate; also the way the team handled the Lance pushes his trainer situation, when it was an obvious violent shove, tells you everything you need to know how Lance is treated because of his father). The reporter said unless Lance himself wants to give it up, there is no way in any shape or form, Lance losses that drive. No way. Not even Newey will be able to do anything about that.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
I listen to the ESPN F1 podcast, and their reporters are very connected. One of them said he was talking to someone high up on Aston Martin. The basic gist is people do not realize how all in Lawrence is with his son. To the point where no one on the team can criticize Lance whatsoever if they ever expect to keep their job (just listen to the way Alonso talks about Lance, something Fernando has never done with an inferior teammate; also the way the team handled the Lance pushes his trainer situation, when it was an obvious violent shove, tells you everything you need to know how Lance is treated because of his father). The reporter said unless Lance himself wants to give it up, there is no way in any shape or form, Lance losses that drive. No way. Not even Newey will be able to do anything about that.
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Kinda what I've figured over the years. Alonso is willing to suck up to a loser if he has a real chance at another championship.
 
That was one of the best races, ever.

Piastri is going to have a pretty amazing career- he held of LeClerc so well so many times- holy cow. And they were really struggling given how Sainz closed on the 3 leaders. Amazing.

It's too bad that Carlos made a lunge to pass Charles going into 2, or there would not have been a way for Perez to get up to him and have that collision- I really wanted both Ferrari and McLaren make huge points strides on RBR. But Charles did get a lot more than Max, at least. And McLaren- great strategy for Lando on top on how they won- recovering from 17th to finish ahead of Max on pure pace.

Double points for Williams, and points for Colopinto on his second race. As well as Bearman getting points.
 
MichVandal said:
Kinda what I've figured over the years. Alonso is willing to suck up to a loser if he has a real chance at another championship.
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If Newey makes Aston Martin a great car, Lawrence is going to have fun when every race Alonso is P1-3 and Lance is P6-8 or DNF.
 
Remember when Danny Ric was going to replace Checo on the senior squad 2 months ago?

How long until he's a sideline man for Crofty?
 
Kepler said:
Remember when Danny Ric was going to replace Checo on the senior squad 2 months ago?

How long until he's a sideline man for Crofty?
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Such a great see-ya gift, DFL so you can put soft tires on to protect your not really teammate. Weaksauce by Red Bull.
 
Colapinto P-11, just outta the points, in a Williams sh-tbox. Should we be excited?

Also, why are all the drivers from Australia Italians?
 
Kepler said:
Colapinto P-11, just outta the points, in a Williams sh-tbox. Should we be excited?

Also, why are all the drivers from Australia Italians?
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Williams is not a sh*tbox anymore. Just look at their performance the past three races. Arguably, they are close to being the best of the rest. Their new upgrades, the first one which Sargeant destroyed, are working very well.

Australia is a nation of immigrants also... :)
 
Transplanted Tiger Fan said:
Dang, Man!! I have to (unfortunately) miss this year. Got a ‘destination wedding’ to attend for the weekend about 3hrs to our West.

Next year, Russell. I’ll bring the beer (and wine!) ;0)
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Next year's Watkins Glen date has been announced. The SVRA Vintage weekend will be back to it's normal September weekend, the 4-7, with the downtown Grand Prix Festival on the 5th. And this time it is only going to consist of vintage races.

They are moving the Pro Trans Am race, and will couple it with the other pro events they own (mainly the junior open wheel series), to a separate weekend, July 11-13. Hopefully, I'll get to work both weekends.
 
For those of you in the Midwest who want to check out the SCCA Runoffs, they are at Road America this year (and next year), October 1-6, with the races taking place all day Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Here is the full schedule: https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_f.../2024_0904_Runoffs_Schedule_Activities_v2.pdf

I'll be on the pace/safety car team for the third year in a row (the last two the Runoffs were at VIR). I probably should have mentioned this earlier, as each worker gets one guest pass, but it may be too late to add someone to that list. Nonetheless, if anyone is interested, let me know, and I'll see if it's possible.
 
It's official- Ricciardo is out of RB. His last parting effort was to get FTD by being DFL to be able to put fresh soft tires on his car. Kind of a sour way to finish his F1 career.
 
Just saw that yesterday Renault killed their engine program for real.

Very sad.

This was the company that introduced the world to one of the most famous eras in F1 when they made a 1.5L turbo V6 in 1977. It's too bad they had limited success with that, as they showed both the potential and the problems that other companies were able to solve before making a mess. And then when going back to the NA era, they had the most dominant engine of the 90's winning 6 of the championships of that decade.

And that continued into the 2000's with two more with Alonso at the wheel.

They could never really figure out the hybrid systems as well as Mercedes and Ferrari, let alone Honda who had a late (and terrible) start. And even though the '26 rules simplify the engine, they are now gone.

All things considered, of the engine companies that have come and gone, Renault is second to Cosworth, for sure. But Cosworth barely figured out any of the engine eras post the DFV- kind of a similar path- boom and then bust.
 
Kepler said:
No love for the Coventry Climax?
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Very short lived and not nearly as many wins compared to Cosworth or Renault.

There are a lot of engine makers that have come and gone.... And some were reasonably popular but never reliable or powerful enough- like the Hart turbo in the 80s. Edit- a list off the top of my head- Alfa Romeo- multiple times, they even powered a Brahbam; BRM- famous H16; Peugeot; Lamborghini/Chrysler; BMW;

BTW, one thing that makes the Renault Turbo so significant is the number of engine makers in the 70s- Cosworth, Ferrari, and kinda Alfa, BRM, and Matra. Once Renault did their thing, BMW got into F1, Porsche got into F1, Honda got back into F1, Hart made motors... And it really ended Cosworth's dominance and pretty much killed them. Even when the NA came back. But the game changed SO much, many companies decided to try- Peugeot, Lambo, Yamaha, Judd, Ilmore... Some became other companies that live today.

I know that the professionalism of F1 changed at the same time, but it was still not there when the turbo era really got off the ground and so many more companies decided to make F1 engines. So I really put a lot of that on Renault's brave move to turbo a 1.5l V6.
 
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Norris is just horrific on starts. The Ferraris had the advantage all day regardless, but going 1st to 4th in T1 didn’t do any good for Norris’ WDC hopes.

Stewards didn’t seem consistent with their penalty applications either. Started off letting a few go as racing incidents, then started applying five second penalties for moving someone off track, and then Norris and Verstappen they go back to their earlier application and ding Norris for over taking off track when he was forced off.
 
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Norris is just horrific on starts. The Ferraris had the advantage all day regardless, but going 1st to 4th in T1 didn’t do any good for Norris’ WDC hopes.

Stewards didn’t seem consistent with their penalty applications either. Started off letting a few go as racing incidents, then started applying five second penalties for moving someone off track, and then Norris and Verstappen they go back to their earlier application and ding Norris for over taking off track when he was forced off.
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This time, Lando was too nice. He could have totally moved over on max to take the corner, but he left space for a max dive bomb. And since that had no chance to make the corner- it left the window open to Ferrari.

Later, max dive bombed when Lando passed him- again, no chance to leave a car width- crash or give way. I wonder if Lando stayed behind they could claim he pushed him off. But Lando needs to have that dive bomb move, too. And stop being nice.

that, and the mistakes during the spriny makes me think he has zero chance to win it all.
 
Now that I finally got everything sorted out, and just bought the actual tickets to the event (flight and hotel reservations were made a couple of months ago), I can now brag.

I am going to the Macau Grand Prix in three weeks! I fly in/out of Hong Kong. I'm going for a whole week+, so I have time to tour. And I hope to make a one-day excursion into Hong Kong proper.

For those of you who don't know about this event, here is the official website: https://www.macau.grandprix.gov.mo/en/

But, you can probably get a better idea of the event, and the insane street circuit, by simply searching on YouTube for videos.
 
So much for "mature" max. That was hilarious.

And great drive by Carlos. Just took the lead and ran away. Lando wanted to make it a game, but nope.
 
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