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Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

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solovsfett said:
Yeah, LB mayor cancelled all events where more than 250 people will gather.

It will be creepy to watch races with no spectators. Like a twilight zone episode. Yes
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Come, this is IndyCar, they are used to racing in front of empty stands....

(insert rim shot):)
 
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I believe Spain is canceled, and The Dutch will have to find a new date. My guess is that the first GP will be Monoco and that the summer break will be canceled and races run during that time.
Most amateur racing in the US is still on.. for now. No one goes to those anyway.

I believe the delay in Australia was because the f1 guys didn't want to cancel it themselves they wanted the state to do it so that their insurance kicked in.
 
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manurespreader said:
I believe Spain is canceled, and The Dutch will have to find a new date. My guess is that the first GP will be Monoco and that the summer break will be canceled and races run during that time.
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Technically, Spain is not cancelled ... yet. But realistically... I, too, read they will use the summer break to make up dates as they will claim the mandatory break is occuring right now.

It might be Baku to start, if they're lucky. I read an interesting thought going through F1 -- that the 2020 and 2021 seasons will be combined, and thus the 2021 rule changes will be delayed till 2022.

Most amateur racing in the US is still on.. for now. No one goes to those anyway.
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I just got an email from American Endurance Racing (AER) who I sometimes work with. All races are a go for now (they are at Pittsburgh in April and Watkins Glen in May). But, would they exceed the gathering limits of what NYS has imposed? Can they claim being spread out along a pitwall still meets the gathering edict...?

Meanwhile, I still have my motel room for IMSA at Mid-Ohio, May 1-3. But, I'm not expecting that to take place.

I believe the delay in Australia was because the f1 guys didn't want to cancel it themselves they wanted the state to do it so that their insurance kicked in.
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That's exactly what it was. It was a Mexican stand off. The teams forced F1's hands when they started announcing publically there was no race.
 
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You know I'm bummed Hulkenburg is out. I think there are a number of drivers not as good as him. I understand the politics but I still thought he got screwed.
 
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Le Mans postponed till September 19-20.

I'm sure Indy is the next big event to go...
 
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Dumb idea: Move Indy to the end of July between Iowa and Mid-Ohio. Have it be a 5 day race weekend with 1-2 practice days, one qualifying day, then the 500.

Reasoning: NASCAR is off, so no direct race competition. Baseball also goes into the "dog days" so you can pick up a few TV viewers from that as well. Dunno how many people attend both major races at Indy, so you might lose a few folks who don't want to attend two races in 3 weekends. On the plus side, the two big Indy races are close enough so that they can leave temporary items like hospitality tents and other infrastructure up for both races. Also Iowa and Mid-Ohio are short travel races for the teams for the most part.

At this point, the entire year is just gonna be a cluster for every form of entertainment. There are no easy answers.
 
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solovsfett said:
Monaco postponed. INDY will be next and their numbers will be down significantly as Labor Day weekend is out (Portland) and the rest of September they’re up against the NFL.
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If Indy wanted to, they will buyout the Portland contract in order to get on to Labor Day weekend. The 500 is worth way more than the entire rest of the season. They have to salvage that race in order for teams to salvage their sponsorships and thus budgets.
 
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RaceBoarder said:
Dumb idea: Move Indy to the end of July between Iowa and Mid-Ohio. Have it be a 5 day race weekend with 1-2 practice days, one qualifying day, then the 500.

Reasoning: NASCAR is off, so no direct race competition. Baseball also goes into the "dog days" so you can pick up a few TV viewers from that as well. Dunno how many people attend both major races at Indy, so you might lose a few folks who don't want to attend two races in 3 weekends. On the plus side, the two big Indy races are close enough so that they can leave temporary items like hospitality tents and other infrastructure up for both races. Also Iowa and Mid-Ohio are short travel races for the teams for the most part.
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Not necessarily a bad idea, other than the heat, for the reasons you state. (And don't worry about the Brickyard 400, no one attends that anymore.)

At this point, the entire year is just gonna be a cluster for every form of entertainment. There are no easy answers.
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No doubt. Everyone is just going to have to make do, as well as put up with a ton of conflicts, especially on the sports car side.

A friend of mine said, "At this rate, there will be a race at some track every day in September. Let's travel from one track to another. Let's gooooo."

I said, "Well, with all my vacation time still available since I won't be able to use it any other time, let's do it."
 
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And it's been announced that 2021 has been postponed to 2022 in F1. Even with the intro shift, there will be a cost cap for 2021.

It will be interesting if any team totally remakes their car for 2021 or not.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
If Indy wanted to, they will buyout the Portland contract in order to get on to Labor Day weekend. The 500 is worth way more than the entire rest of the season. They have to salvage that race in order for teams to salvage their sponsorships and thus budgets.
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Agreed but Robin Miller said Portland was not on the radar to move. It’s probably the ideal weekend for a reschedule. I guess Miller talks with Roger Penske 3-4x a week.
 
RaceBoarder said:
Dumb idea: Move Indy to the end of July between Iowa and Mid-Ohio. Have it be a 5 day race weekend with 1-2 practice days, one qualifying day, then the 500.

Reasoning: NASCAR is off, so no direct race competition. Baseball also goes into the "dog days" so you can pick up a few TV viewers from that as well. Dunno how many people attend both major races at Indy, so you might lose a few folks who don't want to attend two races in 3 weekends. On the plus side, the two big Indy races are close enough so that they can leave temporary items like hospitality tents and other infrastructure up for both races. Also Iowa and Mid-Ohio are short travel races for the teams for the most part.

At this point, the entire year is just gonna be a cluster for every form of entertainment. There are no easy answers.
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I like your idea here. Miller said Labor Day is out which seems odd. One would think you could buy out/reschedule Portland for a one time force majeure event that caused this.
 
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alfablue said:
And it's been announced that 2021 has been postponed to 2022 in F1. Even with the intro shift, there will be a cost cap for 2021.

It will be interesting if any team totally remakes their car for 2021 or not.
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I think you forgot the key word -- rules.

When I first read what you wrote, I thought the 2020 season was going to be combined into the 2021 season (which has been rumored) to make a super season.

Words matter. LOL
 
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solovsfett said:
Agreed but Robin Miller said Portland was not on the radar to move. It’s probably the ideal weekend for a reschedule. I guess Miller talks with Roger Penske 3-4x a week.
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I think Robin hangs out in Roger's bathroom... :D
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
I think you forgot the key word -- rules.

When I first read what you wrote, I thought the 2020 season was going to be combined into the 2021 season (which has been rumored) to make a super season.

Words matter. LOL
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I considered that, but then humor matters, too. :)
 
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