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Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

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Sir Stirling Moss died.... What a legend. Probably there will never be a better driver to not win a WC.
 
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manurespreader said:
RIP! You could go to his door in his last few years and knock and be given an autograph and tea if you wanted it.
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Back at the '62 Sebring 12 hr, my dad took a picture of him, and through my friends in the UK car enthusiasts- we got him to sign it sometime in the late 90s.
 
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Rumor is Vettel will announce tomorrow he’s leaving Ferrari at the end of whatever season we have this year. There’s nowhere for him to go. This is terrible news for him. I’m not a fan of his but would like to see if he’d give indycar a shot.
 
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solovsfett said:
Rumor is Vettel will announce tomorrow he’s leaving Ferrari at the end of whatever season we have this year. There’s nowhere for him to go. This is terrible news for him. I’m not a fan of his but would like to see if he’d give indycar a shot.
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I read that Ferrari offered him a one year extension for an insultingly low salary. So, maybe he’s telling them to go pound sand.

He has already said he has no desire to do ovals. If he stays in racing, it’s going to be sports cars.
 
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solovsfett said:
Rumor is Vettel will announce tomorrow he’s leaving Ferrari at the end of whatever season we have this year. There’s nowhere for him to go. This is terrible news for him. I’m not a fan of his but would like to see if he’d give indycar a shot.
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official today.

And kind of expected to me- he's not done what he is being paid so much to do- win. And he's not all that competitive against his teammate. So it was natural that he got an offer that is the same as Charles'.
 
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alfablue said:
official today.

And kind of expected to me- he's not done what he is being paid so much to do- win. And he's not all that competitive against his teammate. So it was natural that he got an offer that is the same as Charles'.
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Agreed. he wanted to be number 1 but he was slower than number 2. And now Sainz will go to Ferrari and Ricciardo to McLaren. I wonder if Hulkenberg will get another shot.
 
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manurespreader said:
Agreed. he wanted to be number 1 but he was slower than number 2. And now Sainz will go to Ferrari and Ricciardo to McLaren. I wonder if Hulkenberg will get another shot.
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Going on that trend.... What's up with Renault? When a non-factory team like McLaren- who sucked REALLY badly not so long ago, is now more attractive to top drivers than you are?

The idea of Renault dropping F1 seems more and more likely as all of these stories progress.

Which actually brings up a totally different question- with just 3 engine makers, but interest from other companies IF the rules change a little- will the rules changes just a little for that to happen?
 
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manurespreader said:
Agreed. he wanted to be number 1 but he was slower than number 2. And now Sainz will go to Ferrari and Ricciardo to McLaren. I wonder if Hulkenberg will get another shot.
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Lots of confirmation of Ricciardo to McLaren today.

So now there's an open seat for Renault- and I don't see Vettel going there.
 
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solovsfett said:
Holeeee sheeeeeeyat!

https://t.co/t81PXLZbhZ?amp=1
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Considering that the budget amounts that have been cut would run most race teams, this kind of makes sense. Other than the issue that Fiat may not be so profitable to let Ferrari keep spending that kind of money.

Relative to history, though, Ferrari would fit better in the WEC, IMHO. Win LeMans again. But it would be interesting for a Ferrari Indy Car.
 
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alfablue said:
Going on that trend.... What's up with Renault? When a non-factory team like McLaren- who sucked REALLY badly not so long ago, is now more attractive to top drivers than you are?

The idea of Renault dropping F1 seems more and more likely as all of these stories progress.

Which actually brings up a totally different question- with just 3 engine makers, but interest from other companies IF the rules change a little- will the rules changes just a little for that to happen?
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Did you ever work with the French?
 
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manurespreader said:
Did you ever work with the French?
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Thankfully, no, lol.

Still, if they go away, then there are only 3 engine suppliers, and with the new goal of reducing costs, then perhaps they will reopen the rules to get more suppliers making cheaper powertrains.
 
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alfablue said:
Thankfully, no, lol.

Still, if they go away, then there are only 3 engine suppliers, and with the new goal of reducing costs, then perhaps they will reopen the rules to get more suppliers making cheaper powertrains.
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After this year, Renault is only supplying one team ... themselves. So it’s not like it’s a huge F1 loss from an engine supply standpoint.
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
After this year, Renault is only supplying one team ... themselves. So it’s not like it’s a huge F1 loss from an engine supply standpoint.
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Actual impact, yes. But I do think it will be something that will make them look in. It seems that there was a lot of effort to get Honda as an engine supplier, and for many years, they only supplied one team. In terms of the heat recovery systems for the exhaust- I do know that it's not a significant part going forward- as opposed to the rest of the F1 powertrain. E-boost systems are- but not nearly how F1 uses them, and the odds of them going forward is not high- as the benefits they offer are more efficiently delivered directly by direct drive motors. And I think that's the reason so many were interested in 2021, but not for the whole shebang.
 
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