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Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

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TovarishchLisa said:
Official now. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...nd-prix-from-2020.5GwYlGbr56A0GCycMuUM0G.html
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"The race is backed by Vietnamese conglomerate VinGroup, which specialises in real estate but has recently launched the first Vietnamese car manufacturer VinFast. It plans to use the grand prix to promote VinFast, which plans to build cars based on BMW platforms. The company is controlled by Phạm Nhật Vượng who became Vietnam's first billionaire off the back of VinGroup's success in real estate."

So much for communism in Vietnam. Just saying...
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
So much for communism in Vietnam. Just saying...
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To the modern capitalist, communism = cheap labor.

Given the track record of many of the recent Asian adds to the F1 calendar, I don't see this lasting more than a few years. F1 will sweep in, take their cut, there will be huge losses, and they will sweep back out.
 
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Bingo!. I was rather thinking they should cut races rather than expand them. I guess that's not going to happen however. There was an interview with Claire Williams posted today and she will not name the second driver as yet, but will in a week or so. I'm really hoping they field a more competitive car next season.
 
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Just a shameless plug for the 50th anniversary of Formula Ford that is being held at Road America, Elkhart Lake, Wi, in September. There are to be 4 FF race groups. Historic cars, Club Ford with treaded tires, ( that's me) Club Ford SCCA, and modern cars. At the 40th anniversary some years ago there were 200 cars. I'm guessing there will be more this time.
The VSCDA which is running the event has had record applications for membership and registration doesn't open until tomorrow.
It's possible I will take two cars and it's also possible I will rent out my Citation. We'll see. There are people from all over the world coming to it.
 
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It's amazing she survived. Saw the video earlier, and holy crap. Wish there was video leading up to the crash....that was some serious air.
 
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Stuck throttle on that? (Can that happen in a "Fly by Wire" car?) That was strange in that she was carrying so much more speed than everyone...
 
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RaceBoarder said:
Stuck throttle on that? (Can that happen in a "Fly by Wire" car?) That was strange in that she was carrying so much more speed than everyone...
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She touched wheels with a car (before any of the videos picked this up), ran into the curbing which accentuated going airborne (and once airborne, nothing was slowing her down while everyone else was braking for the corner, thus the extreme speed differential by the time the various videos pick up the scene), and then flew over the car you do see in the video before going over the wall/fence. Most of this info comes from a racer.com article. The car you see slowing down all the way to driver's left is probably the one she touched wheels with.

Unless the FIA releases the onboard videos of all drivers involved, we may not know who's fault the initial wheel touching was.
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
She touched wheels with a car (before any of the videos picked this up), ran into the curbing which accentuated going airborne (and once airborne, nothing was slowing her down while everyone else was braking for the corner, thus the extreme speed differential by the time the various videos pick up the scene), and then flew over the car you do see in the video before going over the wall/fence. Most of this info comes from a racer.com article. The car you see slowing down all the way to driver's left is probably the one she touched wheels with.

Unless the FIA releases the onboard videos of all drivers involved, we may not know who's fault the initial wheel touching was.
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And she came real close to hitting that post which might have made a much different result.
 
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Hard to say much about the first testing of the year but Stroll was 3ed fastest for Force India, and Raikkonen is 3ed from last in the Sauber.
 
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manurespreader said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CohuAMqJFNc
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Also, Fernando and Jimmy Johnson swapped rides on Monday- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pAxfbZRIU

This was a 2013 McLaren, not the most recent one. But Johnson was able to get within 0.2 sec of Fernando's benchmark time set in the car. Which is just like the last two times that a cup drive swapped seats with an F1 driver- where the cup driver was much faster than anyone expected in the car- and much faster, relative, than the F1 driver was in the cup car. I really don't like watching NASCAR, but I certainly appreciate how good of drivers they are- I've done a NASCAR drive at MIS, and they balance a heavy car, with little aero, on small tires for hours at a time. Pretty amazing.
 
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manurespreader said:
Hard to say much about the first testing of the year but Stroll was 3ed fastest for Force India, and Raikkonen is 3ed from last in the Sauber.
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There's nothing to say. :-) They are using a mix of this year's and next year's tires, so any times are completely meaningless.
 
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alfablue said:
Also, Fernando and Jimmy Johnson swapped rides on Monday- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pAxfbZRIU

This was a 2013 McLaren, not the most recent one. But Johnson was able to get within 0.2 sec of Fernando's benchmark time set in the car. Which is just like the last two times that a cup drive swapped seats with an F1 driver- where the cup driver was much faster than anyone expected in the car- and much faster, relative, than the F1 driver was in the cup car. I really don't like watching NASCAR, but I certainly appreciate how good of drivers they are- I've done a NASCAR drive at MIS, and they balance a heavy car, with little aero, on small tires for hours at a time. Pretty amazing.
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They have to use F1 cars over x number of years old, otherwise it's considered an official test which if course is against the rules.

When Hamilton and Stewart did the exchange at Watkins Glen, the first session was damp, so each driver ended up with faster times in the other one's cars than the regular drivers of those cars. It was hysterical looking at the non-racing press hype that without any idea what really happened.

I agree with you on what NASCAR drivers have to do. Many don't realize how difficult they have it driving those cars -- overweight, no downforce to speak of, and no tires worth a darn. Plus, they get more time in their cars than perhaps any other form of racing, even endurance racing (because their schedules are short). And there's nothing like time behind the wheel.
 
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alfablue said:
Also, Fernando and Jimmy Johnson swapped rides on Monday- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pAxfbZRIU

This was a 2013 McLaren, not the most recent one. But Johnson was able to get within 0.2 sec of Fernando's benchmark time set in the car. Which is just like the last two times that a cup drive swapped seats with an F1 driver- where the cup driver was much faster than anyone expected in the car- and much faster, relative, than the F1 driver was in the cup car. I really don't like watching NASCAR, but I certainly appreciate how good of drivers they are- I've done a NASCAR drive at MIS, and they balance a heavy car, with little aero, on small tires for hours at a time. Pretty amazing.
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I think that’s why guys like Gurney, Mario, Stewart and AJ are legends. You can only cross over to nascar and be successful if you have dirt track experience or something similar where cars slide up the turns etc. without that experience you have Montoya, Franchitti et al.

It’s easier going from taxi cabs to cars on rails. Much easier.

Whether Johnson would find that .2 is unknown but I wouldn’t bet against it.

I hate to say all this because I really don’t care for what a i cabs but...
 
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Just FYI, but on Sundays, starting tomorrow at 9 pm on CBS sports, will be races from the SCCA runoffs this year at Sonoma. Every Sunday evening in December. FF is near the end of the month but there are some good hard top races also.
 
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