What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

manurespreader said:
I agree with that and I want to add. That track has to do something to make it safer in a wreck. the way the fences are constructed means that drivers can get hurt easily by impacting the posts holding it. That is my number one issue. There was a Formula C driver killed at the Kink last year at RA and it took about 3 nanoseconds for the track to add safety barriers to the corner.
Maybe Sato's team can volunteer to pay for the repairs to other people's cars? (Tongue in cheek there.)

Did you see where Russell is getting hate mail from Kubica fans? For what? And Kubica hasn't been all that good with the press just BTW..

I am rooting for him, and I think he is bringing benefits to the table, but his fans need to relax.
Click to expand...

Indycar has outgrown pocono in terms of speed and the lack of safety upgrades.

Wickens and others tweeted about the safety of the track so I think it’s gone.

Dixon may be the most old school of the bunch his comments reminded me of Michael Andretti or Al Unser Jr.
 
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

manurespreader said:
Did you see where Russell is getting hate mail from Kubica fans? For what? And Kubica hasn't been all that good with the press just BTW..
Click to expand...

The Polish fans are insane. And I don't mean in a good way. Seriously.

Joe Saward, one of the top F1 journalist of all time, was getting death threats last year for suggesting that Kubica was not the best choice for Williams.

There are all kinds of social media sites where Polish fans are passing around all sorts of conspiracy theories on the reasons why their driver is not doing well which includes favoritism towards Russell. Thus, the hate mail.

I'm telling you, if you read some of this stuff, you would have thought you found your way into the worst of Bannon level rhetoric.
 
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Russell Jaslow said:
The Polish fans are insane. And I don't mean in a good way. Seriously.
Click to expand...

For Eastern Europeans (I say this as an Eastern European), sports are an excuse for a white nationalist parade.

<img src="https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/468/537/PA-17427097_crop_north.jpg?h=533&w=800&q=70&crop_x=center&crop_y=top" height="300">
 
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Back from Pocono. Gdm Sato. This race needed to be saved and he threw it all out the window. Aszclown driver. The crowd was good, 25K-30K. Best I've seen there in 5 years. Incrementally increasing yoy for 5 years according to track president. And with NASCAR pulling one weekend off the schedule I wonder if less market saturation and more marketing could have grown this more but I think it's done for a while.

I don't really know what else to add. It was a weird weekend entirely. From the good(ish) weather for Practice 1 that never happened because the medical helicopter wasn't there and couldn't get there because of cloud cover before the rain, to the rain changing the schedule completely for the weekend and eliminating qualifying, to the Sunday mess with Sato delaying the race and then more weather and a rain shortened race. As a paying customer I expected 2 hours of practice in total (split), a race, and a qualifying. I got 2 hours of practice (yay) no qualifying and basically half a race. Not good. They need to add a rookie practice back on like they had my first year there four years ago and then consider adding a 3rd day for possible weather delays. And some supporting series of some sort if you can get it. I think cancelling qualifying was a good thing actually because that 2 hour practice allowed them to focus only on race trim which is what they needed practice with. Obviously Sato needed more help or doesn't belong out there.

Dixon, Pagenaud, Power are right on the money... Pocono gets a bad rap and is no more dangerous than any other place.

I really wish Wickens would have not tweeted everything out like he did. And also Sage Karam, whom I've defended tirelessly, really also needs to just literally get off the internet with the few remaining brain cells he has. He's not bright and he's not growing out of the Teen-Angst-On-The-Internet-I-Don't-Wanna-Live-Anymore phase he has been in forever.
 
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

So some big changes coming to the driver line up at F1. Hulkenberg out, Ocon in, Bottas resigned. I'm guessing some more before the end of the year as well. Renault is grasping at straws if you ask me.
 
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

manurespreader said:
So some big changes coming to the driver line up at F1. Hulkenberg out, Ocon in, Bottas resigned. I'm guessing some more before the end of the year as well. Renault is grasping at straws if you ask me.
Click to expand...

What are you talking about? None of this is being reported anywhere.
 
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Russell Jaslow said:
What are you talking about? None of this is being reported anywhere.
Click to expand...

The Ocon-Hulk reports have been going around for a while- since Renault really wants a French driver. Bottas on the other hand..

Apparently there are supposed to be a lot of announcements tomorrow.
 
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

alfablue said:
The Ocon-Hulk reports have been going around for a while- since Renault really wants a French driver. Bottas on the other hand..

Apparently there are supposed to be a lot of announcements tomorrow.
Click to expand...

The way he wrote that was past tense, as if it all already happened and will be active starting at Spa. He even said he expected more to happen, so it was a confusing post.

And everything I've been reading has Mercedes keeping Bottas as their announcement tomorrow. Which of course lends credence to the Ocon replacing Hulkenberg rumor. I did read, if this happens the Hulk ends up at Haas and Grosjean goes to FE. But, any of these moves won't happen till next year.
 
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Russell Jaslow said:
The way he wrote that was past tense, as if it all already happened and will be active starting at Spa. He even said he expected more to happen, so it was a confusing post.

And everything I've been reading has Mercedes keeping Bottas as their announcement tomorrow. Which of course lends credence to the Ocon replacing Hulkenberg rumor. I did read, if this happens the Hulk ends up at Haas and Grosjean goes to FE. But, any of these moves won't happen till next year.
Click to expand...

I'm sorry if it was confusing. I was in a hurry. Yes it is rumors but pretty good rumors. Most of it is done already but just hans't been announced. Ocon changed his twitter handle to F1 driver from Test driver a few days ago. I have a media connection in Holland who gave me all this. He could certainly be wrong.
 
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Russell Jaslow said:
And Renault just confirmed the signing of Ocon for two years, replacing Hulkenberg.

Just one more shoe left to drop.
Click to expand...
I believe Haas is going to sign Hulk after the season, and let Grosjean go, even though I think Magnussen is not as good a driver.. I also think Kubica is on shaky ground at Williams and it will depend on how he does the second half if they sign him again. I think racing point is going to stand pat, but Givanattzi (sp) might be in trouble.
 
Last edited:
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

After a terrible Saturday for all of racing, F1 had a pretty nice race today. Lots of pace changes, Charles winning his first race (dedicating it to his friend), the Mercedes making it look tough for Ferrari, Albon demonstrating that his promotion was deserved- even the rather spectacular pass on Perez.

Too bad for McLaren- not getting either car to finish- one at the start and the other at the very, very end. Norris should have gotten 5th.
 
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

Indycar can’t negotiate turn 1 at Portland because they still have dumb drivers. This time Graham Rahal. Seriously, Rahal, Marco and a few others just aren’t Good enough and should be shown the door.
 
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

solovsfett said:
Indycar can’t negotiate turn 1 at Portland because they still have dumb drivers. This time Graham Rahal. Seriously, Rahal, Marco and a few others just aren’t Good enough and should be shown the door.
Click to expand...

A lot of stupidity in lap 1 again. Given the bad qualifying by both Newgarden, Pagenaud, and Rossi, that could have deeply impacted the championship with Dixon up close to the front and lurking in the championship shadows again. Luckily all 3 avoided disaster (Pagenaud somewhat involved but was not damaged). Dixon ended up getting screwed with battery failure while running P1. Boy things could have gone very differently!!

It's not even the rookies making the mistakes. Perhaps crazier was the RHR stupidity with teammate Rossi behind him. Unreal.

Indycar needs to think about applying some stiffer penalties of some sort, maybe in the standings to affect Leader's Circle money at the end of the year when a crash occurs due to stupidity and takes out entire teams of cars in lap 1.

No surprise but no Pocono on 2020 schedule.
 
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

I wonder if we don't have too many Formula Classes and if F 2 isn't too close in speed to F1 without corresponding safety stuff. I mean an F1000 car is blazingly fast. And we have F3 and then F2 and FE and FC, and FAtlantic, etc. Maybe F 2 ought to be somewhat slower than 170 mph cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71swR2GsWLY
 
Re: Open Wheel Racing 2018- with less winglets.

manurespreader said:
All you guys in Wisconsin etc ought to go to this. it's a spectator event.
https://racer.com/2019/09/06/action...qk4Plvfa_V7PYiKOT623vafJWfZ5vaI11zyRpyMbAwBu4
Click to expand...

I don't typically care about cars but those are beautiful. I hope this kind of thing catches on. Imagine races with cars restricted to replicas of models only available before, say, 1940, or 1930, but with all modern safety equipment, seats belts, air bags, safer tries, cockpit protection, etc!

That I would watch.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top