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Olympic women's hockey
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bluffrinkrat
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Re: Olympic women's hockey
So I guess your saying it takes two years to be considered a Gopher? Schmidgall played in the Olympics the year before she was a Gopher and the Lams the year after they were Gophers. None of the three have individual photos on a wall at Ridder. Nina Rodgers who played two years as a Gopher and now two years with Boston does have an individual photo on the wall due to her time with Team USA. All four of the players are on the wall in team photos and I'm sure they're all just fine with that.
I guess now I'm not sure if the 1999 team is on the wall. I haven't looked for awhile at the team photos and there is that age thing.
Edit: I'm told all the team photos are on the wall going back to 1998. I would have thought so but....
So I guess your saying it takes two years to be considered a Gopher? Schmidgall played in the Olympics the year before she was a Gopher and the Lams the year after they were Gophers. None of the three have individual photos on a wall at Ridder. Nina Rodgers who played two years as a Gopher and now two years with Boston does have an individual photo on the wall due to her time with Team USA. All four of the players are on the wall in team photos and I'm sure they're all just fine with that.
I guess now I'm not sure if the 1999 team is on the wall. I haven't looked for awhile at the team photos and there is that age thing.
Edit: I'm told all the team photos are on the wall going back to 1998. I would have thought so but....
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Correct, they aren't current Gophers, but former Gophers.....alums of the program, therefore should be on the wall. I love how selectice some places are about how they classify alums and who they classify to be alums. See my post about the definition of the word.
Re: Olympic women's hockey
I wasn't attempting to lay out a set of rules to cover every possible scenario.
Jenny Potter is in the same category for me as the Lams. The Lams are UND guys (again-more power to them) and don't belong on the wall.
I feel no inclination regarding Nina Rogders to request her picture be taken down
I wasn't attempting to lay out a set of rules to cover every possible scenario.
Jenny Potter is in the same category for me as the Lams. The Lams are UND guys (again-more power to them) and don't belong on the wall.
I feel no inclination regarding Nina Rogders to request her picture be taken down
Re: Olympic women's hockey
You were the one in the Gopher thread a few weeks ago "loving" the troubles the Gopher fans were having, right? More "love" today!
I don't care about the definition of the word alumni, but I appreciate the "love"
You were the one in the Gopher thread a few weeks ago "loving" the troubles the Gopher fans were having, right? More "love" today!
I don't care about the definition of the word alumni, but I appreciate the "love"
Re: Olympic women's hockey
I think the difference is that the Rogers departure was a mutually agreed move. In the case of (then) Ms Potter and the twins that was not the case. But that is just a guess. The truth is that who gets their photo on the national team wall is a coaches decision & a coach can set any criteria they choose. My assumption is a lot of the signage around the arena has to do with marketing the team to potential recruits. The best example of this is to compare Mariucci to Engelstad. One has monuments to former greats, All-American's and Olympians, the other has 20 foot high pictures of people in other teams uniforms hoisting a cup not winnable by any college team.
I think the difference is that the Rogers departure was a mutually agreed move. In the case of (then) Ms Potter and the twins that was not the case. But that is just a guess. The truth is that who gets their photo on the national team wall is a coaches decision & a coach can set any criteria they choose. My assumption is a lot of the signage around the arena has to do with marketing the team to potential recruits. The best example of this is to compare Mariucci to Engelstad. One has monuments to former greats, All-American's and Olympians, the other has 20 foot high pictures of people in other teams uniforms hoisting a cup not winnable by any college team.
bluffrinkrat
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Re: Olympic women's hockey
Well, there is that. I know that's the case with the twins, but with Schmidgall-Potter in 1998 I was still living on the Iron Range cheering Eveleth on to try to beat Hibbing or Greenway in the Hippodrome so I don't know if hers was a mutual decision.
What did you think of Hughes and Oden? I watched the first two periods of the game last night before switching over to the Russians. Both players looked very good to me. There should be some good battles in the next few years between the two.
Well, there is that. I know that's the case with the twins, but with Schmidgall-Potter in 1998 I was still living on the Iron Range cheering Eveleth on to try to beat Hibbing or Greenway in the Hippodrome so I don't know if hers was a mutual decision.
What did you think of Hughes and Oden? I watched the first two periods of the game last night before switching over to the Russians. Both players looked very good to me. There should be some good battles in the next few years between the two.
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I say we should put the Lams photos up with the "Olympians" at Ridder. What could be better marketing? And ND abandoned them when they abandoned their whole program. I became a Gopher fan in 2009-10, following Becky Kortum, who my sons went to Hopkins schools with. I never saw the Lams play in Maroon and Gold, only in the Olympics, and then ND. So I never felt what must have been the immense sense of loss and betrayal a lot of current Gopher fans must still feel toward them. Only similar situation I have experienced is with the North Stars. I had a pair of season tickets for 20 years. I was so upset at the NHL for letting scumbag Norm Green move them to Dallas, of all places, that I have been to only one one Wild game, ever, and that's when a good friend had a ticket. I lost all interest in the NHL, and the men's Olympic team made up of NHL players. Weird, yup. One other thing...I've been in Ridder at least 150 times, and don't recall seeing Nina Rodgers image up on the wall with Olympians. I'll have to look again next weekend. Google "Nina Rodgers Team USA" and you get nothing relevant. What's up with that? The first thing to do would be to find out if Monique and Jocelyn even might want to be on Ridder's wall of Olympians. If they don't, this whole discussion has been moot! But interesting. I really don't understand the twins exclusion from the Gopher world, even in the media discussion of Gopher Olympians. It's as if they were one of those Soviet Politboro members who messed up big toime and were literally erased from Russian history, their images airbrushed out of photos, all references to theit existence deleted. Was it really that bad?
I wasn't attempting to lay out a set of rules to cover every possible scenario.
Jenny Potter is in the same category for me as the Lams. The Lams are UND guys (again-more power to them) and don't belong on the wall.
I feel no inclination regarding Nina Rogders to request her picture be taken down
I say we should put the Lams photos up with the "Olympians" at Ridder. What could be better marketing? And ND abandoned them when they abandoned their whole program. I became a Gopher fan in 2009-10, following Becky Kortum, who my sons went to Hopkins schools with. I never saw the Lams play in Maroon and Gold, only in the Olympics, and then ND. So I never felt what must have been the immense sense of loss and betrayal a lot of current Gopher fans must still feel toward them. Only similar situation I have experienced is with the North Stars. I had a pair of season tickets for 20 years. I was so upset at the NHL for letting scumbag Norm Green move them to Dallas, of all places, that I have been to only one one Wild game, ever, and that's when a good friend had a ticket. I lost all interest in the NHL, and the men's Olympic team made up of NHL players. Weird, yup. One other thing...I've been in Ridder at least 150 times, and don't recall seeing Nina Rodgers image up on the wall with Olympians. I'll have to look again next weekend. Google "Nina Rodgers Team USA" and you get nothing relevant. What's up with that? The first thing to do would be to find out if Monique and Jocelyn even might want to be on Ridder's wall of Olympians. If they don't, this whole discussion has been moot! But interesting. I really don't understand the twins exclusion from the Gopher world, even in the media discussion of Gopher Olympians. It's as if they were one of those Soviet Politboro members who messed up big toime and were literally erased from Russian history, their images airbrushed out of photos, all references to theit existence deleted. Was it really that bad?
bluffrinkrat
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Re: Olympic women's hockey
Nina Rodgers was on the U.S. Under-18 Team and her individual photo along with Rachael Drazan's and many other former Gophers that were on a U.S. National Team, but not an Olympic team have a spot on a wall at Ridder.
I've never had a problem with any player transferring to another school or leaving school early to go into the pros. Well, except maybe in the one case that comes to mind of a player leaving school halfway through the season to join the Islanders. That's a crummy thing to do to the coach and the other players on his team. Gwozecky said it best in labeling the Islanders' actions "deplorable."
Nina Rodgers was on the U.S. Under-18 Team and her individual photo along with Rachael Drazan's and many other former Gophers that were on a U.S. National Team, but not an Olympic team have a spot on a wall at Ridder.
I've never had a problem with any player transferring to another school or leaving school early to go into the pros. Well, except maybe in the one case that comes to mind of a player leaving school halfway through the season to join the Islanders. That's a crummy thing to do to the coach and the other players on his team. Gwozecky said it best in labeling the Islanders' actions "deplorable."
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Re: Olympic women's hockey
Not bad at all. It's just that they are our opponents. They built the UND program!
God Bless them for that but don't put them on the Gopher wall!
Not bad at all. It's just that they are our opponents. They built the UND program!
God Bless them for that but don't put them on the Gopher wall!
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Re: Olympic women's hockey
Saw Oden a few times this year & she is good but will have to improve to crack the top 2 lines. I thought Hughes might be a little better but part of that may be that she had to be be because Centennial's arsenal is not up to Edina's. Both will be solid contributors.
Saw Oden a few times this year & she is good but will have to improve to crack the top 2 lines. I thought Hughes might be a little better but part of that may be that she had to be be because Centennial's arsenal is not up to Edina's. Both will be solid contributors.
Re: Olympic women's hockey
It is complicated. There is a backstory that indicates they never intended to be Gophers. Then there is the style of play they engaged in for 3 years facing the Gophers, not designed to endear them to hockey fans. Though, given that it is a style UND seems to play often it might may not be entirely their fault. It may be they only appear to be the wellhead. Then it might be that it would appear cheap to claim them now. It has been too long to look like the absence was not intentional and too soon to look like bygones being bygones.
The right time to have done it was after the '13 season. They were done then & those 2 championships MN won were in no small part due to their decision.
It is complicated. There is a backstory that indicates they never intended to be Gophers. Then there is the style of play they engaged in for 3 years facing the Gophers, not designed to endear them to hockey fans. Though, given that it is a style UND seems to play often it might may not be entirely their fault. It may be they only appear to be the wellhead. Then it might be that it would appear cheap to claim them now. It has been too long to look like the absence was not intentional and too soon to look like bygones being bygones.
The right time to have done it was after the '13 season. They were done then & those 2 championships MN won were in no small part due to their decision.
Re: Olympic women's hockey
And we were more than a little bummed out when UND folded that program, right? So the twins are like refugees, without a home to honor them. We as a nation now honor Japan, Germany, and North Vietnam, all hated opponents at one time. Not N Korea, so it goes... I'm realizing this is more complex an issue than I had initally thought. And don't think there are any U-anything photos up at Ridder, they got rid of a lot of "decor" over the summer. Gopher Team photos got stacked up on the NE wall, SE and W stayed pretty much the same, and the entire N wall is empty save for the plaque honoring the worker who died building the stadium. So I give up on the Lamoureux Olympian Photo idea for the time being, and it's back to Go Gophers!
And we were more than a little bummed out when UND folded that program, right? So the twins are like refugees, without a home to honor them. We as a nation now honor Japan, Germany, and North Vietnam, all hated opponents at one time. Not N Korea, so it goes... I'm realizing this is more complex an issue than I had initally thought. And don't think there are any U-anything photos up at Ridder, they got rid of a lot of "decor" over the summer. Gopher Team photos got stacked up on the NE wall, SE and W stayed pretty much the same, and the entire N wall is empty save for the plaque honoring the worker who died building the stadium. So I give up on the Lamoureux Olympian Photo idea for the time being, and it's back to Go Gophers!
Re: Olympic women's hockey
Some sort of collection of this US team should end of in the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto so I wouldn’t worry about Lams in Ridder.
Is there a college hall of fame? A State of North Dakota Sports Hall of Fame? The Lams can get honored there too.
Some sort of collection of this US team should end of in the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto so I wouldn’t worry about Lams in Ridder.
Is there a college hall of fame? A State of North Dakota Sports Hall of Fame? The Lams can get honored there too.
bluffrinkrat
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Re: Olympic women's hockey
Maybe what we need is a "Marshall Plan" just for the twins, a Kennedy-like presidential speech "Ich bin ein Lamoureuxer," someone that matters to say as Lincoln said to General Wietzel, "If I was in your place, I'd let 'em up easy, let 'em up easy" or.....maybe we should we just build a wall in East Grand Forks and forget about it?
Never mind. I give up, too.
Maybe what we need is a "Marshall Plan" just for the twins, a Kennedy-like presidential speech "Ich bin ein Lamoureuxer," someone that matters to say as Lincoln said to General Wietzel, "If I was in your place, I'd let 'em up easy, let 'em up easy" or.....maybe we should we just build a wall in East Grand Forks and forget about it?
Never mind. I give up, too.
bluffrinkrat
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Re: Olympic women's hockey
Brilliant. Maybe their photos belong in the US Hockey Hall of Fame in Eveleth. They could also replay the game with Canada over and over again in a room as they did (and maybe still do) with the 1980 US gold medal game with Russia.
Brilliant. Maybe their photos belong in the US Hockey Hall of Fame in Eveleth. They could also replay the game with Canada over and over again in a room as they did (and maybe still do) with the 1980 US gold medal game with Russia.
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Birdwatcher
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Re: Olympic women's hockey
We must remember though....this was the Soviet Union....not just Russia....
We must remember though....this was the Soviet Union....not just Russia....
Russell Jaslow
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The Team USA store in Lake Placid does this.
Birdwatcher
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Re: Olympic women's hockey
They also play it on the new video scoreboard over the ice when there is no event going on !
They also play it on the new video scoreboard over the ice when there is no event going on !
bluffrinkrat
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Re: Olympic women's hockey
Thank you for correcting me. As long as people still read Solzhenitsyn it will never be forgotten.
Thank you for correcting me. As long as people still read Solzhenitsyn it will never be forgotten.
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