Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2018-19
ARM will know, without having to look it up. No, seriously.
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Ohio State Buckeyes 2018-19
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bluffrinkrat
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Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2018-19
No it hasn't. Those 3 tournament winners (UM, UMD and UW) from the WCHA have probably come the closest, especially in the early years of the 8 team era. Maybe if Wisconsin had beaten Minnesota in that overtime game of the 2005 WCHA tournament they might have gotten a home game against Dartmouth and if they had won that game then Bob's your uncle.
No it hasn't. Those 3 tournament winners (UM, UMD and UW) from the WCHA have probably come the closest, especially in the early years of the 8 team era. Maybe if Wisconsin had beaten Minnesota in that overtime game of the 2005 WCHA tournament they might have gotten a home game against Dartmouth and if they had won that game then Bob's your uncle.
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When I was I kid, there was character in a series of children's books named "Encyclopedia Brown." USCHO has Encyclopedia ARM.
I don't doubt it for a second.ARM will know, without having to look it up. No, seriously.
When I was I kid, there was character in a series of children's books named "Encyclopedia Brown." USCHO has Encyclopedia ARM.
Appreciate the confirmation. Was pretty sure that was the case, but was too tired/lazy last night to look it up myself. And it was those early years around 2005 that I couldn't remember clearly.
Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2018-19
This year through 12 games the Bulldogs are producing 2.25 Goals/g, ranking second to last in program history. (2017-18 was lowest at: 2.03 G/g)
First 10 seasons of Bulldog hockey; 4+ G/g, last ten seasons (including 2018-19); 2.44 G/g
Definitely a change in women's hockey since the early years; more teams, better talent, and more competition for recruits - I don't think they need to get back to 4+ G/g, but scoring 3 consistently would be nice.
This year through 12 games the Bulldogs are producing 2.25 Goals/g, ranking second to last in program history. (2017-18 was lowest at: 2.03 G/g)
First 10 seasons of Bulldog hockey; 4+ G/g, last ten seasons (including 2018-19); 2.44 G/g
Definitely a change in women's hockey since the early years; more teams, better talent, and more competition for recruits - I don't think they need to get back to 4+ G/g, but scoring 3 consistently would be nice.
Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2018-19
Noticed that MeiGray is auctioning off a set of Game-Worn NWHL Jerseys today. (Tuesday 11/20). There's a Lisa Chesson Buffalo Beauts Jersey to be had:
http://meigrayauctions.com/catalog.aspx?auctionid=217
$200 isn't cheap. Conversely, $200 isn't a huge sum of money in the world of Pro Sports Memorabilia. But no matter how you look at the price, it's kind of neat that the NWHL jerseys are in the mix. Naturally the inclusion of a Buckeye & Team USA alum in the auction caught my eye...
OK Buckeye fans. Who's going to be the one to wear that Lisa Chesson Jersey to the next home game at the Ice Rink?
Noticed that MeiGray is auctioning off a set of Game-Worn NWHL Jerseys today. (Tuesday 11/20). There's a Lisa Chesson Buffalo Beauts Jersey to be had:
http://meigrayauctions.com/catalog.aspx?auctionid=217
$200 isn't cheap. Conversely, $200 isn't a huge sum of money in the world of Pro Sports Memorabilia. But no matter how you look at the price, it's kind of neat that the NWHL jerseys are in the mix. Naturally the inclusion of a Buckeye & Team USA alum in the auction caught my eye...
OK Buckeye fans. Who's going to be the one to wear that Lisa Chesson Jersey to the next home game at the Ice Rink?
Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2018-19
Well, that is kind of neat. I actually have a #11 Lisa Chesson Buffalo Beauts replica jersey that looks just like that one. We actually have a couple more Buffalo Beauts jerseys on the way ... the wife and I have ordered #18 Julianna Iafallo Buffalo Beauts replica jerseys. We should be getting them soon. I also have some Toronto Furies jerseys of former Buckeyes Tessa Bonhomme, Natalie Spooner, and Danielle Gagne. Mrs 86 has a Laura McIntosh Brampton Thunder jersey. We try to follow and support our Buckeyes after their OSU playing days are over. We are actually going to catch a Buffalo Beauts game next month while the OSU Women are on break.
Noticed that MeiGray is auctioning off a set of Game-Worn NWHL Jerseys today. (Tuesday 11/20). There's a Lisa Chesson Buffalo Beauts Jersey to be had:
http://meigrayauctions.com/catalog.aspx?auctionid=217
$200 isn't cheap. Conversely, $200 isn't a huge sum of money in the world of Pro Sports Memorabilia. But no matter how you look at the price, it's kind of neat that the NWHL jerseys are in the mix. Naturally the inclusion of a Buckeye & Team USA alum in the auction caught my eye...
OK Buckeye fans. Who's going to be the one to wear that Lisa Chesson Jersey to the next home game at the Ice Rink?
Well, that is kind of neat. I actually have a #11 Lisa Chesson Buffalo Beauts replica jersey that looks just like that one. We actually have a couple more Buffalo Beauts jerseys on the way ... the wife and I have ordered #18 Julianna Iafallo Buffalo Beauts replica jerseys. We should be getting them soon. I also have some Toronto Furies jerseys of former Buckeyes Tessa Bonhomme, Natalie Spooner, and Danielle Gagne. Mrs 86 has a Laura McIntosh Brampton Thunder jersey. We try to follow and support our Buckeyes after their OSU playing days are over. We are actually going to catch a Buffalo Beauts game next month while the OSU Women are on break.
Draighlicht
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Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2018-19
I managed to catch the "doubleheader" last Saturday, the women at 1:00 PM and the men at 5:00 PM . Love that scheduling since I live near Cincinnati and still managed to be home by the times the drunks started hitting the highways. Impressed with both teams. I was hesitant about going to the men's game since I had had been to both the 6-3 and 8-2 losses. Jinx is over,
On the "Official Site" there is a listing of seven women signing their letters of intent for next season. Worth checking out. Looks like some nice players coming in next season to build on what;s already here.
I managed to catch the "doubleheader" last Saturday, the women at 1:00 PM and the men at 5:00 PM . Love that scheduling since I live near Cincinnati and still managed to be home by the times the drunks started hitting the highways. Impressed with both teams. I was hesitant about going to the men's game since I had had been to both the 6-3 and 8-2 losses. Jinx is over,
On the "Official Site" there is a listing of seven women signing their letters of intent for next season. Worth checking out. Looks like some nice players coming in next season to build on what;s already here.
Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2018-19
Totally agree on the recruiting class! Those are some big time recruits! Cannot wait to see them all in Scarlet & Gray next season!
Totally agree on the recruiting class! Those are some big time recruits! Cannot wait to see them all in Scarlet & Gray next season!
Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2018-19
With a few teams ranked above us losing this weekend, the Buckeye Women missed out on a great opportunity to move up in the polls as they dropped a 3-0 game to the Minnesota State Mavericks earlier today. The story of this game was freshman sensation goaltender Abigail Levy of Minnesota State stopping all 41 Ohio State shots she faced to get the shutout. Coach Muzerall felt the effort was there, but said, "We have to learn to score, especially when we put 41 shots on net ... We need to find a way to bury the puck and get it done." Ohio State out-shot the Mavericks 41-22. Buckeye goaltender Andrea Braendli stopped 19 of the 21 shots she faced. The Mavericks' 22nd shot was an empty netter. The two teams were scoreless through two periods. Minnesota State got a power play goal from Anna Wilgren to make the score 1-0, then later in the third period, Megan Hinze added the second goal. Brittyn Fleming scored the Mavericks' empty-netter. The two teams are back at it tomorrow at 3:07 pm EST.
With a few teams ranked above us losing this weekend, the Buckeye Women missed out on a great opportunity to move up in the polls as they dropped a 3-0 game to the Minnesota State Mavericks earlier today. The story of this game was freshman sensation goaltender Abigail Levy of Minnesota State stopping all 41 Ohio State shots she faced to get the shutout. Coach Muzerall felt the effort was there, but said, "We have to learn to score, especially when we put 41 shots on net ... We need to find a way to bury the puck and get it done." Ohio State out-shot the Mavericks 41-22. Buckeye goaltender Andrea Braendli stopped 19 of the 21 shots she faced. The Mavericks' 22nd shot was an empty netter. The two teams were scoreless through two periods. Minnesota State got a power play goal from Anna Wilgren to make the score 1-0, then later in the third period, Megan Hinze added the second goal. Brittyn Fleming scored the Mavericks' empty-netter. The two teams are back at it tomorrow at 3:07 pm EST.
Blackbeard
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Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2018-19
Generally speaking, here's a suggestion.
Learn how to shoot.
I was shocked to find out years ago that UMD didn't hold any shooting drills/clinics...probably still don't. And judging by the way some their players "shot" and still do "shoot"...it shows.
As obvious as the problem was for a few years absolutely nothing was done to address that problem. I know because I asked some of the players and was told that at this level players are supposed to know how to shoot. I expected that answer.
What I also expected was that the coaches would be smart enough to do something about it.
What the coaching staff seemed unwilling to ask themselves was "what if some of them can't shoot? And if they can't, what do we do about it?"
(One would assume that something as important as that would have been on the scouting report.)
Ignoring it seemed to be UMD's strategy. That strategy doesn't work.
Don't know if that is part of the problem on your team but if it isn't then you are in elite shooting company. I've been impressed the last several years how UM and UW seem to have several players on their team who could hold clinics on this. Several on each team is a big reason for their success in my opinion.
A friend of mine (who I've mentioned before) who holds no whistle scrimmages several times per week told me a few years back about a player that came out to one of his scrimmage. His description of her abilities was "she shoots like a man!" (For any PC'ers in the crowd...that is a serious compliment). Never thought her playing or skating ability was anything to write home about, (still don't), and then a couple of years ago she ended up on Team Canada. The reason she ever got noticed in the first place years before that was the same reason that she ended up on Team Canada...she could shoot like a man. Hopefully, the rest of her abilities could be improved upon until it was passable or better, I assume was the thinking.
UMD has continually missed the boat on this topic and it is hard to understand how they willingly do so. Even if half your players can shoot like a man that means the other half can't. Even a 20% or 30% improvement in the shooting abilities of those players should translate into a significant contribution to the team's results. And by "shooting skills" not only am I referring to the biomechanics of the skill but also aiming strategy as in the "hole" system. Ever notice how the top scorers don't shoot the puck into the goaltender's midsection too often when the goaltender is standing still like a cardboard goalie and the one's that don't score often, do?
Can't see that most other teams would be that much different than UMD. Teach them the proper biomachanics, aiming strategy and instill in them the need to always shoot with conviction...like they mean it. When you see players who do this constantly they just jump off the page at you...you cannot help but notice them.
Generally speaking, here's a suggestion.
Learn how to shoot.
I was shocked to find out years ago that UMD didn't hold any shooting drills/clinics...probably still don't. And judging by the way some their players "shot" and still do "shoot"...it shows.
As obvious as the problem was for a few years absolutely nothing was done to address that problem. I know because I asked some of the players and was told that at this level players are supposed to know how to shoot. I expected that answer.
What I also expected was that the coaches would be smart enough to do something about it.
What the coaching staff seemed unwilling to ask themselves was "what if some of them can't shoot? And if they can't, what do we do about it?"
(One would assume that something as important as that would have been on the scouting report.)
Ignoring it seemed to be UMD's strategy. That strategy doesn't work.
Don't know if that is part of the problem on your team but if it isn't then you are in elite shooting company. I've been impressed the last several years how UM and UW seem to have several players on their team who could hold clinics on this. Several on each team is a big reason for their success in my opinion.
A friend of mine (who I've mentioned before) who holds no whistle scrimmages several times per week told me a few years back about a player that came out to one of his scrimmage. His description of her abilities was "she shoots like a man!" (For any PC'ers in the crowd...that is a serious compliment). Never thought her playing or skating ability was anything to write home about, (still don't), and then a couple of years ago she ended up on Team Canada. The reason she ever got noticed in the first place years before that was the same reason that she ended up on Team Canada...she could shoot like a man. Hopefully, the rest of her abilities could be improved upon until it was passable or better, I assume was the thinking.
UMD has continually missed the boat on this topic and it is hard to understand how they willingly do so. Even if half your players can shoot like a man that means the other half can't. Even a 20% or 30% improvement in the shooting abilities of those players should translate into a significant contribution to the team's results. And by "shooting skills" not only am I referring to the biomechanics of the skill but also aiming strategy as in the "hole" system. Ever notice how the top scorers don't shoot the puck into the goaltender's midsection too often when the goaltender is standing still like a cardboard goalie and the one's that don't score often, do?
Can't see that most other teams would be that much different than UMD. Teach them the proper biomachanics, aiming strategy and instill in them the need to always shoot with conviction...like they mean it. When you see players who do this constantly they just jump off the page at you...you cannot help but notice them.
Who was the player? Interesting story. One of Mercyhurst’s best shooters is Emma Nuutinen, and she shoots to score, not to just get something on net. Also happens to be an Olympian, maybe there’s something there. Brittany Howard, one of the best scorers in recent CHA history also shot to score - she works with a skills coach from the NHL in her summers. I saw a Loren Gabel thing recently where she said she shoots 500 pucks a day in the summer. There’s definitely a reason the scorers are goal scorers or end up on the teams they do.
I was listening to a podcast this week and they were talking about how all the NHL guys have shooting coaches now and it’s part of the reason (also gear changes) that scoring is up in the NHL. The young phenoms can shoot because they workin it relentlessly.
That Abigail Levy has three shutouts in a row now too.... gotta give her some credit too!
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Who was the player? Interesting story. One of Mercyhurst’s best shooters is Emma Nuutinen, and she shoots to score, not to just get something on net. Also happens to be an Olympian, maybe there’s something there. Brittany Howard, one of the best scorers in recent CHA history also shot to score - she works with a skills coach from the NHL in her summers. I saw a Loren Gabel thing recently where she said she shoots 500 pucks a day in the summer. There’s definitely a reason the scorers are goal scorers or end up on the teams they do.
I was listening to a podcast this week and they were talking about how all the NHL guys have shooting coaches now and it’s part of the reason (also gear changes) that scoring is up in the NHL. The young phenoms can shoot because they workin it relentlessly.
That Abigail Levy has three shutouts in a row now too.... gotta give her some credit too!
Poor shooting and passing/pass receiving skills are the two individual skills that have plagued girl's and women's hockey for years. Some of us chose/choose to work on those things on our own time but most do not because they are "as good as" the majority of their peer group, which obviously isn't a compliment. But this isn't a new problem by any means.
I mean... you and Blackbeard make it sound like players can’t shoot at all and I think that’s an overstatement. Most players shoot reasonably well imo, and the average ability continues to get better. In game play when there are defenders or fatigue, there is a group of elites that stand out, that’s my point.
No, just that those two skill areas continue to be the weakest part of our sport. Personaly it drives me crazy when I see players that can't pass well enough to connect to teammates accurately, and even crazier when I see players that can't receive a pass that's basically right on their stick blade, so poor passing/receiving ability is the bigger pet peeve for me. We all know that at least 85% of goals are garbage goals scored from in tight anyway, so I guess as long as your team is able to shovel enough of those garbage goals into the opponent's net to keep winning games, then you don't need more good shooters.
Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2018-19
Your point is well-taken. Coach Muzerall and our players have been working on that this season, shooting to score, rather than just shooting to get a shot on goal. Unfortunately for us, we are not at the level of Minnesota or Wisconsin yet when it comes to that. Otherwise, we wouldn't have split this weekend, nor would we have gotten swept at Bemidji. I hope at some point soon we are at that level Minnesota and Wisconsin are at where we don't lose to unranked teams just because we aren't in the friendly confines of the OSU Ice Rink. We are 7-1 at home this season, but just a .500 club (5-5) on the road. Three of those five losses are to Bemidji and Minnesota State. The other road losses are to top ten teams St. Lawrence and Minnesota. Hopefully we figure out the whole road game thing at some point.
Thankfully, the Bucks had a good bounce-back win today, shutting out the Mavericks 2-0. As was the case in yesterday's game, Ohio State out-shot the Mavericks 40-27. Buckeye netminder Andrea Braendli stopped all 27 of the shots she faced to get her second shutout of the year. Braendli's other shutout was also vs the Mavericks back in October. Maverick goaltender Abigail Levy, who has been amazing this season, stopped 38 of the 40 shots she faced. Tatum Skaggs opened the scoring in the first period with a power play goal and that turned out to be the game-winner. Still in the first period, Samantha Bouley scored Ohio State's second goal. That would be it as neither team found the back of the net in the final two periods. Ohio State has a bye week before returning home on 12/15-12/16 for a big non-league series vs Mercyhurst. Minnesota State will head to Duluth next weekend to take on the Bulldogs before the Holiday break.
Your point is well-taken. Coach Muzerall and our players have been working on that this season, shooting to score, rather than just shooting to get a shot on goal. Unfortunately for us, we are not at the level of Minnesota or Wisconsin yet when it comes to that. Otherwise, we wouldn't have split this weekend, nor would we have gotten swept at Bemidji. I hope at some point soon we are at that level Minnesota and Wisconsin are at where we don't lose to unranked teams just because we aren't in the friendly confines of the OSU Ice Rink. We are 7-1 at home this season, but just a .500 club (5-5) on the road. Three of those five losses are to Bemidji and Minnesota State. The other road losses are to top ten teams St. Lawrence and Minnesota. Hopefully we figure out the whole road game thing at some point.
Thankfully, the Bucks had a good bounce-back win today, shutting out the Mavericks 2-0. As was the case in yesterday's game, Ohio State out-shot the Mavericks 40-27. Buckeye netminder Andrea Braendli stopped all 27 of the shots she faced to get her second shutout of the year. Braendli's other shutout was also vs the Mavericks back in October. Maverick goaltender Abigail Levy, who has been amazing this season, stopped 38 of the 40 shots she faced. Tatum Skaggs opened the scoring in the first period with a power play goal and that turned out to be the game-winner. Still in the first period, Samantha Bouley scored Ohio State's second goal. That would be it as neither team found the back of the net in the final two periods. Ohio State has a bye week before returning home on 12/15-12/16 for a big non-league series vs Mercyhurst. Minnesota State will head to Duluth next weekend to take on the Bulldogs before the Holiday break.
ChickHicks86
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At this level, any player can shoot, though some are definitely better than others (Zumwinkle for the Gophers comes to mind). I think an understated part of the quality shot question is how the non-shooting teammates react to the shot. Do they stand around and watch the goalie make the save? Or are they crashing the net / screening the goalie / looking for a redirect? I thought the answer to that question was the deciding factor in the series this weekend. Braendli didn't have a good look at either of Mankato's goals on Saturday while OSU watched Levy make a lot of easy saves in the chest protector. Sunday, OSU got goals on a scrappy rebound and a nice redirect. The first shot aftermath is the key to beating solid goaltenders at this level.
At this level, any player can shoot, though some are definitely better than others (Zumwinkle for the Gophers comes to mind). I think an understated part of the quality shot question is how the non-shooting teammates react to the shot. Do they stand around and watch the goalie make the save? Or are they crashing the net / screening the goalie / looking for a redirect? I thought the answer to that question was the deciding factor in the series this weekend. Braendli didn't have a good look at either of Mankato's goals on Saturday while OSU watched Levy make a lot of easy saves in the chest protector. Sunday, OSU got goals on a scrappy rebound and a nice redirect. The first shot aftermath is the key to beating solid goaltenders at this level.
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Excellent points. My Bucks need to figure those things out as these losses have taken their toll. Just checked the PairWise and we are now on the outside looking in at 9th. Thankfully, there is still plenty of season left to move back up.
Excellent points. My Bucks need to figure those things out as these losses have taken their toll. Just checked the PairWise and we are now on the outside looking in at 9th. Thankfully, there is still plenty of season left to move back up.
Still Eeyore
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Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2018-19
You are on the outside, but you're in 8th, not 9th. St. Anselm is ineligible for the tournament, so they really shouldn't be listed. On the other hand, the CHA is guaranteed a spot, but doesn't have a team in the top eight, so you need to be at least #7 to earn an invite, and higher if there are significant upsets in the conference tournaments.
You are on the outside, but you're in 8th, not 9th. St. Anselm is ineligible for the tournament, so they really shouldn't be listed. On the other hand, the CHA is guaranteed a spot, but doesn't have a team in the top eight, so you need to be at least #7 to earn an invite, and higher if there are significant upsets in the conference tournaments.
pokechecker
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because the rest as you say "shoot reasonably well"
IOW, they need some work
for most, their shooting ability is far below their skating ability, and below passing ability too
I'd say that's Bemidji's biggest problem, they might even be an NCAA tourney team if they could shoot as well as the rest of their game
because the rest as you say "shoot reasonably well"
IOW, they need some work
for most, their shooting ability is far below their skating ability, and below passing ability too
I'd say that's Bemidji's biggest problem, they might even be an NCAA tourney team if they could shoot as well as the rest of their game
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Spot on. That is why we need ro figure stuff out. Don't want to be left out. Thankfully, there is enough season left to move up. I am with you regarding I am not sure why St. Anselm is listed if they are not eligible.
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