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Official Thread of the Leftover League

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Will Fairbanks dominate? Someone asked that.

This conference is gonna be lots of laughs.
 
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As much as I love rooting for my Nooks whenever we play the Seapuppie, now more than ever we need to be united. Somehow we each have to save our Alaskan Hockey and that will be easier if we stick together!
 
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Schlacker Rat said:
As much as I love rooting for my Nooks whenever we play the Seapuppie, know more than ever we need to be untited. Somehow we each have to save our Alaskan Hockey and that will be easier if we stick together!
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I'm not sure whether that should be "united", "untitled", or "untittied".
 
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Schlacker Rat said:
As much as I love rooting for my Nooks whenever we play the Seapuppie, know more than ever we need to be untited. Somehow we each have to save our Alaskan Hockey and that will be easier if we stick together!
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I think that is the general sentiment between all of us leftover teams. But I have a sick feeling that there is one more move to make that will end up leaving 3-4 teams completely out in the cold.
 
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Here's my crack solution, assuming WMU doesn't go anywhere.

1. Pick up UAH to have a 12 team conference.

2. Form three scheduling clusters, similar to the old CCHA. Keep Fairbanks, Anchorage, and Huntsville in separate clusters to help with travel. Example:

Cluster 1: Fairbanks, WMU, BG, Mankato
Cluster 2: Anchorage, NMU, Tech, LSSU
Cluster 3: Huntsville, St. Cloud, Ferris, Bemidji

3. Cluster mates play four games against each other, twice at home and twice on the road. You'd play two games against non-cluster mates.

4. I'm too lazy to do a schedule algorithm, but there would probably be a couple teams that would have to fly to Alaska twice in a given season. Suck it up and enjoy the bonus frequent flier miles. Rotate the schedule year-to-year to ensure that it's not always the same teams doing this.

5. Re-org the clusters every few years, but always keep the two Alaska's and Alabama in separate clusters.

It may not be perfect but it's the best solution I cam think of.
 
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Squarebanks said:
Here's my crack solution, assuming WMU doesn't go anywhere.

1. Pick up UAH to have a 12 team conference.

2. Form three scheduling clusters, similar to the old CCHA. Keep Fairbanks, Anchorage, and Huntsville in separate clusters to help with travel. Example:

Cluster 1: Fairbanks, WMU, BG, Mankato
Cluster 2: Anchorage, NMU, Tech, LSSU
Cluster 3: Huntsville, St. Cloud, Ferris, Bemidji

3. Cluster mates play four games against each other, twice at home and twice on the road. You'd play two games non-cluster mates.

4. I'm too lazy to do a schedule algorithm, but there would probably be a couple teams that would have to fly to Alaska twice in a given season. Suck it up and enjoy the bonus frequent flier miles. Rotate the schedule year-to-year to ensure that it's not always the same teams doing this.

5. Re-org the clusters every few years, but always keep the two Alaska's and Alabama in separate clusters.

It may not be perfect but it's the best solution I cam think of.
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Probably the best that could happen. Otherwise, it'd probably end up something like:

WCHA:
St. Cloud, Bemidji, Mankato, Tech, NMU, LSSU, Anchorage, Fairbanks

CCHA:
Western, Ferris, BG, UAH, Canisius, Niagara, Bobby Mo, EDIT: Mercyhurst
 
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Squarebanks said:
Here's my crack solution, assuming WMU doesn't go anywhere.

1. Pick up UAH to have a 12 team conference.

2. Form three scheduling clusters, similar to the old CCHA. Keep Fairbanks, Anchorage, and Huntsville in separate clusters to help with travel. Example:

Cluster 1: Fairbanks, WMU, BG, Mankato
Cluster 2: Anchorage, NMU, Tech, LSSU
Cluster 3: Huntsville, St. Cloud, Ferris, Bemidji

3. Cluster mates play four games against each other, twice at home and twice on the road. You'd play two games non-cluster mates.

4. I'm too lazy to do a schedule algorithm, but there would probably be a couple teams that would have to fly to Alaska twice in a given season. Suck it up and enjoy the bonus frequent flier miles. Rotate the schedule year-to-year to ensure that it's not always the same teams doing this.

5. Re-org the clusters every few years, but always keep the two Alaska's and Alabama in separate clusters.

It may not be perfect but it's the best solution I cam think of.
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I have a counter to that idea, and it involves pulling the teams from AHA that don't like the low scholarship limits.

WCHA:
SCSU
MSU-M
UAA
BSU
MTU
NMU
LSSU
UA

CCHA:
WMU
FSU
BGSU
Niagara
RMU
UAH
Mercyhurst

If you needed to, you could put Fairbanks into the other other conference to keep UAA and UA separate.

With this setup you preserve the 2 autobids, which I think is very, very important. You have a conference of 7 and one of 8 that are about as geographically logical as you can get with this setup. Each team plays other conference mates 1 series during the season, with the potential for additional "non-conference" matchups against rivals. The extra games you get to play, due to have a condensed schedule could be played in a scheduling alliance between the 2 conferences. Basically, we'd be playing the same schedule as your proposal, but we keep 2 autobids.
 
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Beer Pong Horn said:
Probably the best that could happen. Otherwise, it'd probably end up something like:

WCHA:
St. Cloud, Bemidji, Mankato, Tech, NMU, LSSU, Anchorage, Fairbanks

CCHA:
Western, Ferris, BG, UAH, Canisius, Niagara, Bobby Mo, ?? (RIT or Fairbanks?)
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Keeping both the CCHA and WHCA forces two more autobids, making the BHHC liable to whine more about getting screwed. For that reason alone I'd like to see both leagues stay.
 
I think in that scenario Anchorage and Fairbanks would be split.

Beer Pong Horn said:
Probably the best that could happen. Otherwise, it'd probably end up something like:

WCHA:
St. Cloud, Bemidji, Mankato, Tech, NMU, LSSU, Anchorage, Fairbanks

CCHA:
Western, Ferris, BG, UAH, Canisius, Niagara, Bobby Mo, ?? (RIT or Fairbanks?)
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stuckinwi said:
Keeping both the CCHA and WHCA forces two more autobids, making the BHHC liable to whine more about getting screwed. For that reason alone I'd like to see both leagues stay.
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That would be nice. :D PS: it's WCHA. ;)

bigblue_dl said:
I have a counter to that idea, and it involves pulling the teams from AHA that don't like the low scholarship limits.

WCHA:
SCSU
MSU-M
UAA
BSU
MTU
NMU
LSSU
UA

CCHA:
WMU
FSU
BGSU
Niagara
RMU
UAH
Mercyhurst

If you needed to, you could put Fairbanks into the other other conference to keep UAA and UA separate.

With this setup you preserve the 2 autobids, which I think is very, very important. You have a conference of 7 and one of 8 that are about as geographically logical as you can get with this setup. Each team plays other conference mates 1 series during the season, with the potential for additional "non-conference" matchups against rivals. The extra games you get to play, due to have a condensed schedule could be played in a scheduling alliance between the 2 conferences. Basically, we'd be playing the same schedule as your proposal, but we keep 2 autobids.
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Add Canisius to the CCHA (they were close to hopping to the CHA, but wanted assurances they could go back), and you have two 8 team leagues. The AHA opens up room for places like Lindenhurst, and we're in business.
 
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Squarebanks said:
I think in that scenario Anchorage and Fairbanks would be split.
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Maybe, but the CCHA turns into a cost-containment league in that scenario, since it's a very feasible bus league even with the UAH outlier. I wouldn't be surprised to see either one though, or the 12 team proposal you cited earlier.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
I think that is the general sentiment between all of us leftover teams. But I have a sick feeling that there is one more move to make that will end up leaving 3-4 teams completely out in the cold.
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Why do you think the remaining WCHA ADs have taken time for an emergency conference in MSP next week? I guarantee you it's not a Mall of America shopping trip.

Thankfully we have some time for discussion. I don't think any moves are going to be announced right away, but I would expect a decision in a reasonable enough timeframe so as to avoid serious recruiting troubles.
 
Beer Pong Horn said:
Maybe, but the CCHA turns into a cost-containment league in that scenario, since it's a very feasible bus league even with the UAH outlier. I wouldn't be surprised to see either one though, or the 12 team proposal you cited earlier.
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It would almost have to be one or the other, unless three or four programs cease to exist. And nobody wants that.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Why do you think the remaining WCHA ADs have taken time for an emergency conference in MSP next week? I guarantee you it's not a Mall of America shopping trip.

Thankfully we have some time for discussion. I don't think any moves are going to be announced right away, but I would expect a decision in a reasonable enough timeframe so as to avoid serious recruiting troubles.
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I really hope that they do what is right and try to figure out a solution like we are doing now. There is no reason to cut 3 teams out completely.
Actually, I think we should probably voice our concerns over this to the remaining AD's. Hopefully they will see what the backstabbing AD's from Denver and UND didn't.
 
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Beer Pong Horn said:
That would be nice. :D PS: it's WCHA. ;)
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WHCA is a recognized USCHO meme, as started by that one cocky Yale fan. ;)

Also, why not split up the Alaska schools, and keep one in WCHA and one in CCHA? Yes, the CCHA would have to suck up that they'll be having 2 travel spurts, but at least they'll both have a shot at the exemption. Not to mention, 8 and 8, that's 28 games for each (7*4, I apologize for the math), the Alaska teams keep their same NC schedule, and we see all lower 48 teams in this setup enjoy 8 non-conference games.
 
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