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Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
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Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
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bronconick
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Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
NHL plans to bring two realignment options to the table.
1- The radical realignment, no conferences, 4 divisions, all non-divisional games are home and home, with two rounds of divisional playoffs.
2- Flip Detroit and Winnipeg, meeting adjourned, everyone goes golfing.
Odds are, they won't get the two-thirds needed for the first, so Detroit can say goodbye to Chicago and St. Louis and hello to more Florida and Carolina. How's that for your whiny demands to be sent east, Illitch?
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2011/12/02/shannon_on_realignment/
NHL plans to bring two realignment options to the table.
1- The radical realignment, no conferences, 4 divisions, all non-divisional games are home and home, with two rounds of divisional playoffs.
2- Flip Detroit and Winnipeg, meeting adjourned, everyone goes golfing.
Odds are, they won't get the two-thirds needed for the first, so Detroit can say goodbye to Chicago and St. Louis and hello to more Florida and Carolina. How's that for your whiny demands to be sent east, Illitch?
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2011/12/02/shannon_on_realignment/
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aparch
Acetaminamerican
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
How many games against "divisional" rivals in the sunbelt? Carolina, Florida, Tampa Bay... They might as well pack their golf clubs with their hockey sticks. Hell... "Home" games at JLA might become road trips for the new snowbird Red Wings.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
Yeah, but who else would go to the SE without creating some weird travel inconsistency? Pit? Philly? NJ? Or do you move the most geographically appropriate team (Nash or an argument could be made for Dal)?
Yeah, but who else would go to the SE without creating some weird travel inconsistency? Pit? Philly? NJ? Or do you move the most geographically appropriate team (Nash or an argument could be made for Dal)?
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
Nashville to SE. Winnipeg to NW. Wild to Central.
Can't happen though. Detroit would throw a fit.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
Hell, I'll happily grumble through 10:30 PM west coast starts if it means not having to face Carolina, Florida, and Tampa's trap 18 times a year. Unfortunately, something has to change.
When this happens, I'm blaming Winnipeg.
Move the Devils, no one cares about them anymore.
Hell, I'll happily grumble through 10:30 PM west coast starts if it means not having to face Carolina, Florida, and Tampa's trap 18 times a year. Unfortunately, something has to change.
When this happens, I'm blaming Winnipeg.
Move the Devils, no one cares about them anymore.
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Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
My realignment preference:
Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Buffalo, Boston, New York R, New York I. New Jersey
Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington, Columbus, Carolina, Tampa, Florida
Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, Dallas, Nashville, Minnesota, Colorado
Winnipeg, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Anaheim, Phoenix
My realignment preference:
Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Buffalo, Boston, New York R, New York I. New Jersey
Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington, Columbus, Carolina, Tampa, Florida
Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, Dallas, Nashville, Minnesota, Colorado
Winnipeg, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Anaheim, Phoenix
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
Detroit would throw a nutter about Columbus going East instead.
Hammer
We'll be back.
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
Hmmm, give up Chicago and St. Louis for more games against Toronto, Montreal and Boston. Yes, please. Detroit will make that trade 11 times out of 10.
Hmmm, give up Chicago and St. Louis for more games against Toronto, Montreal and Boston. Yes, please. Detroit will make that trade 11 times out of 10.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
Good, go east then. As a MN fan I want more games against Chicago and St. Louis, instead of Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton, we'll take your spot.
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
Wouldn't matter if EVERYONE's humping it on airplanes as much as the Wings are.
Two games versus every opponent: 29 x 2 = 58 games.
Rest versus your "division" (in the four division setup). For the Wings, it would be extra games versus:
Chicago x 4, St. Louis x 4, Dallas x 4, Nashville x 4, Minnesota, x 4, Colorado x 4
Take Winnipeg for example then: 29 x 2 =58 games. Extra games versus:
Vancouver x 4, Calgary x 4, Edmonton x 4, Los Angeles x 4, San Jose x 2, Anaheim x 2, Phoenix x 4
And rotate those lesser pair games around your division. You're already playing a home and away with them under the initial schedule setup.
For the Wings, that means the playoffs are in your division for the first two rounds, AND every team has to make one god forsaken trip to the West Coast Time-zone from Hell ((c) Mike Illich). It wouldn't be like now where the Wings make two or three trips out west per season.
Wouldn't matter if EVERYONE's humping it on airplanes as much as the Wings are.
Two games versus every opponent: 29 x 2 = 58 games.
Rest versus your "division" (in the four division setup). For the Wings, it would be extra games versus:
Chicago x 4, St. Louis x 4, Dallas x 4, Nashville x 4, Minnesota, x 4, Colorado x 4
Take Winnipeg for example then: 29 x 2 =58 games. Extra games versus:
Vancouver x 4, Calgary x 4, Edmonton x 4, Los Angeles x 4, San Jose x 2, Anaheim x 2, Phoenix x 4
And rotate those lesser pair games around your division. You're already playing a home and away with them under the initial schedule setup.
For the Wings, that means the playoffs are in your division for the first two rounds, AND every team has to make one god forsaken trip to the West Coast Time-zone from Hell ((c) Mike Illich). It wouldn't be like now where the Wings make two or three trips out west per season.
jmh
win or lose, we booze
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
And split Philly from the Rangers and Devils? No way.
Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
East and West would have no distinction anymore, it would be all about the division the team would be in. Detroit's issue is that the West Coast games start so late, all the games in the division (with the exception of CO) would start at 8pm Eastern time so I can't see that as a huge issue, but if Detroit wants Columbus' spot in that division, they can flip them for all I care. I switched CO with Winnipeg because I suspect that the Jets would trade the travel for more games against the other Western Canadian teams even if the geography isn't quite as nice for Colorado.
East and West would have no distinction anymore, it would be all about the division the team would be in. Detroit's issue is that the West Coast games start so late, all the games in the division (with the exception of CO) would start at 8pm Eastern time so I can't see that as a huge issue, but if Detroit wants Columbus' spot in that division, they can flip them for all I care. I switched CO with Winnipeg because I suspect that the Jets would trade the travel for more games against the other Western Canadian teams even if the geography isn't quite as nice for Colorado.
Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
1- Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Buffalo, Boston, Detroit, Pittsburgh
2- Washington, Carolina, Tampa, Florida, Philadelphia, New York R, New York I, New Jersey
3- Chicago, St. Louis, Minnesota, Colorado, Dallas, Nashville, Columbus,
4- Winnipeg, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Anaheim, Phoenix
Ok, which fan base would be displeased now?
Fine, how about this:
1- Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Buffalo, Boston, Detroit, Pittsburgh
2- Washington, Carolina, Tampa, Florida, Philadelphia, New York R, New York I, New Jersey
3- Chicago, St. Louis, Minnesota, Colorado, Dallas, Nashville, Columbus,
4- Winnipeg, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Anaheim, Phoenix
Ok, which fan base would be displeased now?
MountieBoyOz
Eater of Worlds
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
Switch the Rangers with the Penguins and switch Colorado with Winnipeg.
Also, contract Florida and Phoenix
Switch the Rangers with the Penguins and switch Colorado with Winnipeg.
Also, contract Florida and Phoenix
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Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
Ok, take 3:
1- Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Buffalo, Boston, Detroit, Winnipeg
2- Chicago, St. Louis, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, New York R, New York I, New Jersey
3- Dallas, Nashville, Columbus, Washington, Carolina, Tampa, Florida
4- Colorado, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Anaheim, Phoenix
Next option is to split the Original 6 teams into pods and let them draft the 3 eastern divisions.
Ok, take 3:
1- Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Buffalo, Boston, Detroit, Winnipeg
2- Chicago, St. Louis, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, New York R, New York I, New Jersey
3- Dallas, Nashville, Columbus, Washington, Carolina, Tampa, Florida
4- Colorado, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Anaheim, Phoenix
Next option is to split the Original 6 teams into pods and let them draft the 3 eastern divisions.
Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
We start contracting teams and things get easier. at that point I say we use the wayback machine and reset everything back to the way it was 20 years ago. I want to keep Winnipeg with the other Canadian teams even if it makes the travel a bit worse.
We start contracting teams and things get easier. at that point I say we use the wayback machine and reset everything back to the way it was 20 years ago. I want to keep Winnipeg with the other Canadian teams even if it makes the travel a bit worse.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Official 2011-2012 NHL Season Thread: 2 Sedins, No Cup!
Ultimately you're right - 12 games a year with Toronto, Montreal, and Boston beats 12 with Columbus and Nashville any day. Still, that doesn't make sticking Detroit in the SE any less comical. However it is fair to point out that prior to the last 2-3 years, we never had much of a reason to care about the Central either - In 2008, Chicago hadn't been relevant in ages, St. Louis fans had spent most of the last decade pretending we still had a rivalry, Nashville played boring hockey (they still do), and Columbus may as well have been an AHL team (it's still debatable).
Ultimately you're right - 12 games a year with Toronto, Montreal, and Boston beats 12 with Columbus and Nashville any day. Still, that doesn't make sticking Detroit in the SE any less comical. However it is fair to point out that prior to the last 2-3 years, we never had much of a reason to care about the Central either - In 2008, Chicago hadn't been relevant in ages, St. Louis fans had spent most of the last decade pretending we still had a rivalry, Nashville played boring hockey (they still do), and Columbus may as well have been an AHL team (it's still debatable).
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