Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread

[redhawk95]

Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread

Boy NMU's fanbase is in an absolute tailspin.....

It is sad to see for a program who has a great coach and a good program have a fan base turn on them so quickly after week two. A 1-2-1 start against some quality opponents, a frozen four team and a regional finalist from last year...I just don't get it....

I can't even post on that "NMU/Miami" thread. It's pretty ridiculous. It's not even about the series.

 

[redhawk95]

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According to Weston, things could be afoot again regarding CCHA expansion. Mercyhurst may be interested in applying for admission. If that's true, I like it - especially from a geographic sense and it would enable them to fully fund their program.

I posted this at MHT...

Well, more wheels are turning on this whole CCHA thing - as I've tried to say from the outset after UAH was denied admission. According to rumor, Mercyhurst is interested in the CCHA, and from a pure geographical fit, this would be outstanding. If you don't know, Mercyhurst is in Erie, PA.

Mercyhurst apparently would like to fully fund their program with the maximum number of scholarships (currently, I believe Atlantic Hockey only allows 12 scholarships instead of 18 that the CCHA, WCHA, HE and ECAC allow).

IMO, this would be a much better add than UAH and would then open a spot for the Chargers in Atlantic Hockey.

http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,17313/ThisWeekintheCCHAOctober222009

 

[redhawkman10]

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I can't even post on that "NMU/Miami" thread. It's pretty ridiculous. It's not even about the series.

I hear ya, I just posted sticking up for their program because Walt is a good coach and I think they have a good team. I got ripped for sticking up for their program lol .

Thanks redeagle for the support, I was merely sticking up for the program lol

But apparently mojo thinks we are awful and our record doesn't indicate anything and we are overrated lol.

Sad to see really with a program that has there history and a program that isn't bad and will have a good year.

 

[redhawkman10]

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According to Weston, things could be afoot again regarding CCHA expansion. Mercyhurst may be interested in applying for admission. If that's true, I like it - especially from a geographic sense and it would enable them to fully fund their program.

I posted this at MHT...

Well, more wheels are turning on this whole CCHA thing - as I've tried to say from the outset after UAH was denied admission. According to rumor, Mercyhurst is interested in the CCHA, and from a pure geographical fit, this would be outstanding. If you don't know, Mercyhurst is in Erie, PA.

Mercyhurst apparently would like to fully fund their program with the maximum number of scholarships (currently, I believe Atlantic Hockey only allows 12 scholarships instead of 18 that the CCHA, WCHA, HE and ECAC allow).

IMO, this would be a much better add than UAH and would then open a spot for the Chargers in Atlantic Hockey.

http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,17313/ThisWeekintheCCHAOctober222009

Im not surprised and love that move. I made a mention of it over the summer that Robert Morris or Mercyhurst would be a better fit. UAH would work better talent wise in atlantic hockey.

Like you this doesnt surprise me. I think we all knew something like this would eventually happen and the reason the CCHA acted when they did.

Nice find '95.

 

[mcfarljd]

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while it would be a great geographic fit compared to UAH, I don't see that likely unless they break ground on a new rink. Even with the chargers sharing an arena their situation is better than bringing in a 1300 rink that has little to no training amenities is pretty bad. (I understand that some of the older rinks are holes, but you can't expect to bring in a new team without them having an adequate rink, hopefully Ferris can improve theirs sometime soon)

 

[redhawkman10]

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while it would be a great geographic fit compared to UAH, I don't see that likely unless they break ground on a new rink. Even with the chargers sharing an arena their situation is better than bringing in a 1300 rink that has little to no training amenities is pretty bad. (I understand that some of the older rinks are holes, but you can't expect to bring in a new team without them having an adequate rink, hopefully Ferris can improve theirs sometime soon)

I would think if they are willing to commit a full 18 scholies that they have the ideas of getting better facilities too. Especially with the added income that would come in from being in the CCHA it would be worth the investment.

 

[mcfarljd]

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I would think if they are willing to commit a full 18 scholies that they have the ideas of getting better facilities too. Especially with the added income that would come in from being in the CCHA it would be worth the investment.

I'd hope so too, but honestly, they're still not done paying off their current barn that was built in the 90s. I don't think a school in this economy is going to be too adamant about paying for two buildings at once. Unless they can get something done then see ya Mercyhurst. They would be a great fit in our region too and help get a little away from the Michigan dominance of the league. Unless they can get another barn, then we're either looking at going back to UAH, or 11 team league,

 

[MiamiRedhawks2008]

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was just over on the NMU-Miami thread hoping to see some talk on actual hockey (foolish, i know). It made me think about how Miami fans have reacted during down years. I've only been following closely since 2002 or so. It just seems to me that our fan base has been extremely supportive of the team and staff - even through a couple of "dry years." Have we even come down on any of our staff's like the NMU fans (not all, just most vocal)? I think i've always considered MU to be very fortunate to have such a great young hockey coach that is precisely where he wants to be and isn't looking to bounce to a newer, bigger gig.

 

[redhawkman10]

Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread

was just over on the NMU-Miami thread hoping to see some talk on actual hockey (foolish, i know). It made me think about how Miami fans have reacted during down years. I've only been following closely since 2002 or so. It just seems to me that our fan base has been extremely supportive of the team and staff - even through a couple of "dry years." Have we even come down on any of our staff's like the NMU fans (not all, just most vocal)? I think i've always considered MU to be very fortunate to have such a great young hockey coach that is precisely where he wants to be and isn't looking to bounce to a newer, bigger gig.

Amen!

Besides me calling for Rico to be Fired after year two ( which I still haven't lived down and never will, nor should I because I was being ridiculous! ) and whatever his name was last year saying Miami was awful and didn't deserve to be in the NCAA's and they would get blown out by Denver ( saw what happened there and he hasn't shown his face around here anymore ) you re right we are a pretty level headed fan base.

Although we don't have the volume of supporters that some other programs have, all of us who post regularly on here are educated when it comes to hockey. Even when the convo gets spirited at times I would tend to think we all respect eachother, I know I do, and don't carry things over.

I agree it is a really sad sight over at that thread.

 

[redhawkman10]

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I'd hope so too, but honestly, they're still not done paying off their current barn that was built in the 90s. I don't think a school in this economy is going to be too adamant about paying for two buildings at once. Unless they can get something done then see ya Mercyhurst. They would be a great fit in our region too and help get a little away from the Michigan dominance of the league. Unless they can get another barn, then we're either looking at going back to UAH, or 11 team league,

Well I was looking around and Im not sure where Erie otters play but I was checking out their seating chart and even pictures and it isnt the nicest looking place but seats well and would be a great place for them to move into if they could.

I see your side, but you would have to imagine they would get a pretty significant financial gain by playing in the CCHA with some of the teams coming in. Erie is a great hockey town and I think with bigger names would support Mercyhurst like the do the OHL team. I also don't think they would build a new arena right away but it would have to be something that is in writing and a process they would agree upon in order to gain entry.

 

[redeagle]

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I hear ya, I just posted sticking up for their program because Walt is a good coach and I think they have a good team. I got ripped for sticking up for their program lol .

Thanks redeagle for the support, I was merely sticking up for the program lol

But apparently mojo thinks we are awful and our record doesn't indicate anything and we are overrated lol.

Sad to see really with a program that has there history and a program that isn't bad and will have a good year.

I think it is just a few of the NMUers, rhm, so I would not exaggerate the importance of what's going on over there or what is going on in general on these boards--we're here so how important could it be? As someone pointed out, there are a lot more important things going on than how your team plays in the first four or six games, or for the whole season for that matter.

For this weekend and the next, this is a tough stretch coming up (that's why last Saturday night was so frustating for me). NMU is tough, they are at home, lots of travel for MU, they are a bit desperate, they have had a lot of success against Miami recently so they are probably confident, and we follow that with UM at Yost where we have won only a few games ever. That seems like a real tough two weekends.

Everyone has been agreeing on stuff here so I'll throw out some things. Miami needs Knapp and Camper to play better than they did last weekend. I know it is a lot easier from the stands, but MU needs those guys at their best. Camper playing in both ends, Knapp making the big/timely save. I did not see that against MSU. JMHO. Miele was possessed on Saturday. He was buzzing, being a pest and was playing his game very well. Weber seems to have improved to me. You gotta like Weber and Hartman so far, again IMHO.

And '08, as we have said in the past, Miami has had some tough stretches, especially if you go BBBBB (Before Blasi, Bergeron, Blaishill, Brekke--anyone else notice that?). As we all know, other than the real tradition rich programs, it is difficult to maintain high levels of perfomance. Let's hope we can keep it going for a while. As I always say, we'll see.

 

[muredhawks2008]

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And '08, as we have said in the past, Miami has had some tough stretches, especially if you go BBBBB (Before Blasi, Bergeron, Blaishill, Brekke--anyone else notice that?). As we all know, other than the real tradition rich programs, it is difficult to maintain high levels of perfomance. Let's hope we can keep it going for a while. As I always say, we'll see.

I'll go with you on that. But I still think it's going to take some miserable hockey for a 4-5 year stretch for people to get real upset with Coach B. The guy has to be one of the most beloved "faculty" on campus (not sure if he teaches any classes). The heights that he's brought the 'hawks to is quite unbelievable considering where we were prior to his being here.

Since we haven't had too much to complain about so far this year, I'll offer a bit of nit-picking. oh, and BTW, i'm going to feign outrage just so's we can be a little more animated for once...lol! okay...here goes:

You know what ****es me off?! I hate it when Palmer just skates around with the friggin' puck! doesn't he know that you don't get that many openings by having one guy skate around for 7-8 seconds without passing? Passing sets up shots, not a "Skating Skills Presentation"! For goodness sake! pass the puck!

Okay that was really lame. Palmer is having a heck of a year so far. I have been kind of dissapointed the past few seasons after he roared onto the scene as a frosh. Don't get me wrong, he's always been solid; but I think he's finally putting together the kind of season I had always been looking for from him. But he does go through spurts of hold the puck too long.

 

[redhawkman10]

Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread

I think it is just a few of the NMUers, rhm, so I would not exaggerate the importance of what's going on over there or what is going on in general on these boards--we're here so how important could it be? As someone pointed out, there are a lot more important things going on than how your team plays in the first four or six games, or for the whole season for that matter.

For this weekend and the next, this is a tough stretch coming up (that's why last Saturday night was so frustating for me). NMU is tough, they are at home, lots of travel for MU, they are a bit desperate, they have had a lot of success against Miami recently so they are probably confident, and we follow that with UM at Yost where we have won only a few games ever. That seems like a real tough two weekends.

Everyone has been agreeing on stuff here so I'll throw out some things. Miami needs Knapp and Camper to play better than they did last weekend. I know it is a lot easier from the stands, but MU needs those guys at their best. Camper playing in both ends, Knapp making the big/timely save. I did not see that against MSU. JMHO. Miele was possessed on Saturday. He was buzzing, being a pest and was playing his game very well. Weber seems to have improved to me. You gotta like Weber and Hartman so far, again IMHO.

And '08, as we have said in the past, Miami has had some tough stretches, especially if you go BBBBB (Before Blasi, Bergeron, Blaishill, Brekke--anyone else notice that?). As we all know, other than the real tradition rich programs, it is difficult to maintain high levels of perfomance. Let's hope we can keep it going for a while. As I always say, we'll see.

your 100% right, couldn't say it better....

 

[redhawkman10]

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I'll go with you on that. But I still think it's going to take some miserable hockey for a 4-5 year stretch for people to get real upset with Coach B. The guy has to be one of the most beloved "faculty" on campus (not sure if he teaches any classes). The heights that he's brought the 'hawks to is quite unbelievable considering where we were prior to his being here.

Since we haven't had too much to complain about so far this year, I'll offer a bit of nit-picking. oh, and BTW, i'm going to feign outrage just so's we can be a little more animated for once...lol! okay...here goes:

You know what ****es me off?! I hate it when Palmer just skates around with the friggin' puck! doesn't he know that you don't get that many openings by having one guy skate around for 7-8 seconds without passing? Passing sets up shots, not a "Skating Skills Presentation"! For goodness sake! pass the puck!

Okay that was really lame. Palmer is having a heck of a year so far. I have been kind of dissapointed the past few seasons after he roared onto the scene as a frosh. Don't get me wrong, he's always been solid; but I think he's finally putting together the kind of season I had always been looking for from him. But he does go through spurts of hold the puck too long.

Im going to agree with you here, although for me I am dissapointed with Palmer. Since his freshman year he hasn't done much with me. He is a tremendous puck skill guy but he worries about it too much. At this level one guys isn't going to walk someone all of the time, yet he tries too. I really believe his stats his freshman year are because of who he played with. I gave him the benefit of the doubt his sophmore year but last year and the start of this year I belive it more that Matt Christie helped him more than he did himself.

For me I think it would be wise to break up Palmer and Miele they are the same player and that line isn't usefull together with two possesion type players. All my opinion, but after watching saturday I think they would be better used apart.

 

[MOJO]

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I hear ya, I just posted sticking up for their program because Walt is a good coach and I think they have a good team. I got ripped for sticking up for their program lol .

Thanks redeagle for the support, I was merely sticking up for the program lol

But apparently mojo thinks we are awful and our record doesn't indicate anything and we are overrated lol.

Sad to see really with a program that has there history and a program that isn't bad and will have a good year.

More like crashing the thread and throwing around insults Redhawkman!!! You're a dolt!!! NMU will win this series and send you back underneath the rock you crawled out from underneath!!!

 

[RedhawkBandMan]

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They're now into grammar arguments. At first I thought they were messing around with each other, but it's getting uglier by the post...

Is USCHO taking a week off? Where is the poll story? Where are the "This Week" columns? I need something to read while I'm driving...

As usual, excited for another weekend of hockey, though sad that I won't be able to watch. Also excited/nervous to find out how the team adjusts for and handles NMU. Hopefully the MSU series was a serious reality check and has them back on their toes. It's going to take a 120+ minutes of solid effort, but I think Miami can take 6 if they play their game.

 

[redhawkman10]

Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread

They're now into grammar arguments. At first I thought they were messing around with each other, but it's getting uglier by the post...

Is USCHO taking a week off? Where is the poll story? Where are the "This Week" columns? I need something to read while I'm driving...

As usual, excited for another weekend of hockey, though sad that I won't be able to watch. Also excited/nervous to find out how the team adjusts for and handles NMU. Hopefully the MSU series was a serious reality check and has them back on their toes. It's going to take a 120+ minutes of solid effort, but I think Miami can take 6 if they play their game.

First want to say the alums did a great job last weekend!

secondly, lets hope it is only 120 mins lol.

lastly, Miami shouldn't be adjusting their style before the series. With their talent, Miami should be dictating the style of play and make the other team adjust to them. When they are able to do that is when they have the most success.

 

[RedhawkBandMan]

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lastly, Miami shouldn't be adjusting their style before the series. With their talent, Miami should be dictating the style of play and make the other team adjust to them. When they are able to do that is when they have the most success.

I hope that's the case, but to an uneducated (hockey-wise) fan like myself, it seemed like we had some difficulty controlling the pace of the games last year due to NMU's speed. Hopefully, after learning from the MSU series, that won't be the case.

 

[redhawkman10]

Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread

I hope that's the case, but to an uneducated (hockey-wise) fan like myself, it seemed like we had some difficulty controlling the pace of the games last year due to NMU's speed. Hopefully, after learning from the MSU series, that won't be the case.

Don't sell yourself short RHBM, you know more than you are leading to believe.

As for the games last year, it wasn't so much NMU's team speed that caused problems. It was the fact that they played a tight 1-2-2. Which means sending one forechecker and stacking 2 by 2 in the neutral zone. They did a great job of taking half the ice away and forcing Miami into mistakes. This is what Sparty did last weekend, but on the bigger ice surface ( like we will have this weekend) it makes that process far more difficult and we have seen Miami have more success on it because of their speed. Miami may have to make some adjustments but nothing out of the ordinary and something that they can do and force NMU to play a style they aren't comfortable with.

 

[mcfarljd]

Re: Official 2009-2010 Miami Season Thread

have to like the fact that we've already played on the big sheet this season and have played some fast and physical teams the past couple weeks