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Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

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Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

joecct said:
It's from California, that'll guarantee a review.

I see the day where there will be no "spousal" benefits, no marriage deduction, nothing that will relate to marriage. In the eyes of the government we'll all be single and it will be everyone for themselves. Is that a good thing?
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So this is an honest question. I swear. I don't understand a lot about the tax code so, why exactly would eliminating the marriage deduction be a bad thing? I kind of get why it's there, and I can certainly see why people wouldn't want to get rid of it, but if it did go away, what would be the negative repercussions?
 
duper said:
So this is an honest question. I swear. I don't understand a lot about the tax code so, why exactly would eliminating the marriage deduction be a bad thing? I kind of get why it's there, and I can certainly see why people wouldn't want to get rid of it, but if it did go away, what would be the negative repercussions?
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if they do the tax code right, little or no effect. But what if the family health plan was dumped in favor of individual policies? Or the lower car insurance for married folk? There's probably more, but those two are the ones that come to mind.
 
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joecct said:
if they do the tax code right, little or no effect. But what if the family health plan was dumped in favor of individual policies? Or the lower car insurance for married folk? There's probably more, but those two are the ones that come to mind.
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I don't see the health plan thing going that way. In fact, more and more it is going exactly the opposite way (ie, you don't necessarily have to be married to put your better half on your plan) and car insurance wouldn't make sense, because that discount is based on actuarial tables, which show that married people get in less accidents.

But I see that your point is the slippery slope thing. I have to admit that I would rather see marriage benefits extended in some reasonable way to non-married couples than eliminated entirely if those two options were the only available choices. While I don't see a reason for government to recognize a religious rite (or sacrament, depending on your religious beliefs) as also being a legal contract, I do think that there is a societal benefit to encouraging people to stay in committed relationships for the long-term.

OK. Thanks for the answer. :)
 
Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

Is it true that Barry tried to surrender to Hamid Karzai this morning? Was he drunk?
 
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geezer said:
turned out he was just apologizing for America again.
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The appropriate diplomatic response would have been to force American Muslims to form a human cartoon of Mohammed on The Mall and then drop incendiaries on them from drones.
 
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Kepler said:
The appropriate diplomatic response would have been to force American Muslims to form a human cartoon of Mohammed on The Mall and then drop incendiaries on them from drones.
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maybe, but it would make an awful mess.
 
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duper said:
So this is an honest question. I swear. I don't understand a lot about the tax code so, why exactly would eliminating the marriage deduction be a bad thing? I kind of get why it's there, and I can certainly see why people wouldn't want to get rid of it, but if it did go away, what would be the negative repercussions?
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It's not quite that there is a marriage "deduction" as it is that much of the personal income tax code centers around "household" income, which implicitly views a family as a single economic unit. Not trying to enter into the realm of value judgment or whether this treatment is "good" or "bad" or "neutral", merely making a factual observation. Some of it is historical inertia; there was a time in which one spouse primarily worked outside the home for pay while the other spouse worked inside the home without pay, and so the personal income tax code at that time recognized that the former's earned income also provided financial support for the latter. If married filing jointly brackets were exactly twice a single-filer bracket then on this point at least the personal income tax code would be economically neutral.

Even today, in many families, one spouse works full-time while the other spouse works part-time, and so the treatment of "household" income recognizes that frequently the latter derives substantial financial support from the former.

At one time there was a quaint old-fashioned notion that the personal income tax code should not be used to advance social ends.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Why be so upset over an apology in that case? Sure it probably got blown out of proportion, but There's not much we can do about that other than to show contrition so people can get over it and move on. It goes hand in hand when you have to deal with different cultures.
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It means we are surrendering to their judgment. That's why there's such a problem. He's basically saying everyone in this country should turn to Islam.
 
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flagdude08 said:
it means we are surrendering to their judgment. That's why there's such a problem. He's basically saying everyone in this country should turn to islam.
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what???!!!!
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
It means we are surrendering to their judgment. That's why there's such a problem. He's basically saying everyone in this country should turn to Islam.
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Re: Obama XXIII: The Muslin Anti-Christ Wages War on the forces of Christianity!

ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Why be so upset over an apology in that case? Sure it probably got blown out of proportion, but There's not much we can do about that other than to show contrition so people can get over it and move on. It goes hand in hand when you have to deal with different cultures.
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I'm sorry - nobody was actually upset about the apology. I was just trying to make a stupid joke, but Kepler outdid me again without breaking a sweat.
 
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