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Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
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XYZ
Smoking in the selection room.
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
No way. The TP will get behind the nominee regardless. I'll bet you a beer on it...you live close enough to me. Should be easy enough to pay up
No way. The TP will get behind the nominee regardless. I'll bet you a beer on it...you live close enough to me. Should be easy enough to pay up
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
I suppose. If you look at it the other way, and maybe I'm giving the TP waaaay too much credit, but they'd have two options and one of them is obama. I can't see them getting behind him...
No way. The TP will get behind the nominee regardless. I'll bet you a beer on it...you live close enough to me. Should be easy enough to pay up
I suppose. If you look at it the other way, and maybe I'm giving the TP waaaay too much credit, but they'd have two options and one of them is obama. I can't see them getting behind him...
XYZ
Smoking in the selection room.
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
Which is my point. You could put me out there in a Priceless suit and they'd vote for me over Obama.
Which is my point. You could put me out there in a Priceless suit and they'd vote for me over Obama.
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
Thank you for repeating what I said. I guess I was on the right track.
I think you're confusing the relationship between the GOP and the tea party - not that that's uncommon for liberals to do. We've seen plenty of occasions where the tea party has stood up to the powers that be in the Republican Party and said loudly, and firmly, "NO." Most often, it is coming in the primaries. NY-23's special election last year was a prime example of what they'll be willing to do if the GOP puts up an unacceptable candidate. To be honest, I think the tea party could be willing to get behind any of those 11 candidates I listed save Huckabee. There is this assumption that the tea party is some wing of the GOP and that couldn't be farther from the truth. The GOP still hasn't figured out how to make the tea party happy most of the time, which is a real problem for them since a significant chunk of the base they had taken for granted for so many years identifies very strongly with the tea party. They've voted Republican for years and been ignored. Now, since the Democrats are the ones in power, the tea party is essentially giving the GOP one last chance to get it right, since a third party would split the vote and leave the same party that's screwing things up in power. If the GOP takes power and doesn't do anything to placate fiscal conservatives, that's when you'll see a third party - because the feeling will be that Democrat or Republican doesn't matter anymore.
Along those lines, I think the situation in Alaska bears attention. The tea party is firmly behind the apparent winner, Miller, and yet, the NRSC is sending lawyers to Alaska to try and Franken their way into getting Murkowski as the nominee. Tea partiers are furious. If Miller gets denied, this could end up as a three-way race anyway, as I would bet tea party activists from around the country would try to make the Libertarian candidate flush with funds.
Thank you for repeating what I said. I guess I was on the right track.
I think you're confusing the relationship between the GOP and the tea party - not that that's uncommon for liberals to do. We've seen plenty of occasions where the tea party has stood up to the powers that be in the Republican Party and said loudly, and firmly, "NO." Most often, it is coming in the primaries. NY-23's special election last year was a prime example of what they'll be willing to do if the GOP puts up an unacceptable candidate. To be honest, I think the tea party could be willing to get behind any of those 11 candidates I listed save Huckabee. There is this assumption that the tea party is some wing of the GOP and that couldn't be farther from the truth. The GOP still hasn't figured out how to make the tea party happy most of the time, which is a real problem for them since a significant chunk of the base they had taken for granted for so many years identifies very strongly with the tea party. They've voted Republican for years and been ignored. Now, since the Democrats are the ones in power, the tea party is essentially giving the GOP one last chance to get it right, since a third party would split the vote and leave the same party that's screwing things up in power. If the GOP takes power and doesn't do anything to placate fiscal conservatives, that's when you'll see a third party - because the feeling will be that Democrat or Republican doesn't matter anymore.
Along those lines, I think the situation in Alaska bears attention. The tea party is firmly behind the apparent winner, Miller, and yet, the NRSC is sending lawyers to Alaska to try and Franken their way into getting Murkowski as the nominee. Tea partiers are furious. If Miller gets denied, this could end up as a three-way race anyway, as I would bet tea party activists from around the country would try to make the Libertarian candidate flush with funds.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
The GOP created Fox which created the Tea Party. I suppose it's theoretically possible that the Tea Party could become a problem grandchild. More than likely the right will be able to keep everybody on the same page by waving the bloody shirt of Teh Socialism!!!!!11!.
It will be funny though if the elites who created the modern GOP are burned by the very people they've been stealing from all these years.
The GOP created Fox which created the Tea Party. I suppose it's theoretically possible that the Tea Party could become a problem grandchild. More than likely the right will be able to keep everybody on the same page by waving the bloody shirt of Teh Socialism!!!!!11!.
It will be funny though if the elites who created the modern GOP are burned by the very people they've been stealing from all these years.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
That whole Alaska deal is digusting....
...oh, and some of you freakazoids should notice that I'm not a Glenn Beck's restoring honor thing despite it being 1.2 miles from here. Recovering from a 2AM drunken stroll across the national mall.
That whole Alaska deal is digusting....
...oh, and some of you freakazoids should notice that I'm not a Glenn Beck's restoring honor thing despite it being 1.2 miles from here. Recovering from a 2AM drunken stroll across the national mall.
WeWantMore
New member
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
Fox didn't create the Tea Party. Hijack it? Sure.
Fox didn't create the Tea Party. Hijack it? Sure.
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
I love how he ascribes supernatural powers on Fox. Everyone's gotta have some boogeyman to rage against, I suppose, especially someone like him who knows what it's like to be a follower.
I love how he ascribes supernatural powers on Fox. Everyone's gotta have some boogeyman to rage against, I suppose, especially someone like him who knows what it's like to be a follower.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
Palin has those same powers even if she(in his mind) is as dumb as a stump
Palin has those same powers even if she(in his mind) is as dumb as a stump
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
more than 6... the great thing about recovering means i don't have to hit the metro right now... though its probably easier to go during the show than immediately after.
I took a bit of a look at Beck's ustream of the event... its getting way too quasi-spiritualist/revivalist for my taste. I can tell that he means well, but it seems a bit icky to me.
more than 6... the great thing about recovering means i don't have to hit the metro right now... though its probably easier to go during the show than immediately after.
I took a bit of a look at Beck's ustream of the event... its getting way too quasi-spiritualist/revivalist for my taste. I can tell that he means well, but it seems a bit icky to me.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
CNBC created the Tea Party... though had they realized it I think they would have tried to strangle the baby in its cradle.
CNBC created the Tea Party... though had they realized it I think they would have tried to strangle the baby in its cradle.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
Its because he thinks you are stupid. Or rather the great masses out there are as dumb as a stump. Only right thinking people like a Republican who supports Obama can understand the world...
of course that's about as dumb as you can get... its the ultimate admission that all one cares about is the appearance of intellectual power and control of the systems. Its all the shinyobjectarianism he hates about the Beck acolytes and Tea Party followers except dressed up to those with a professional degree on the wall.
Its about having the right and proper king who command over those who must be ruled.
Its because he thinks you are stupid. Or rather the great masses out there are as dumb as a stump. Only right thinking people like a Republican who supports Obama can understand the world...
of course that's about as dumb as you can get... its the ultimate admission that all one cares about is the appearance of intellectual power and control of the systems. Its all the shinyobjectarianism he hates about the Beck acolytes and Tea Party followers except dressed up to those with a professional degree on the wall.
Its about having the right and proper king who command over those who must be ruled.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
they did elect Obama based on "hope" and "change"... so you may have a point... I'd rather not believe that the American people are to be ruled over... because that leads to all kinds of bad things once you accept this... sanctioning of proper persons and all that such... I mean it does happen in society but its generally against the American tradition of equality before the law. It admits a stark class society of those deemed intelligent enough and those who aren't.
I don't see how he's wrong on that account...
they did elect Obama based on "hope" and "change"... so you may have a point... I'd rather not believe that the American people are to be ruled over... because that leads to all kinds of bad things once you accept this... sanctioning of proper persons and all that such... I mean it does happen in society but its generally against the American tradition of equality before the law. It admits a stark class society of those deemed intelligent enough and those who aren't.
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