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Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
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ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
It's always argued back that just as many humans were being killed there before the war than during or after it.
It's always argued back that just as many humans were being killed there before the war than during or after it.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
Not much chance of Obama seeing 8 years the way its going
Bush had 8 years, so if you meant 2017, yepper.
Not much chance of Obama seeing 8 years the way its going
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
I'd call it even money right now. It's going to be a race between the economy degrading and the Republicans nominating a ****tard. If the economy improves, it's Reagan II or Clinton II all over again. If it takes too long to recover, the GOP may still hand him the election.
Regardless, the GOP will have a good November. I know several Dems who are hoping they actually (narrowly) lose control of the House so the opposition has to start being at least somewhat constructive. As long as the Dems have a sweep, the GOP is going to do everything it can to sabotage.
I'd call it even money right now. It's going to be a race between the economy degrading and the Republicans nominating a ****tard. If the economy improves, it's Reagan II or Clinton II all over again. If it takes too long to recover, the GOP may still hand him the election.
Regardless, the GOP will have a good November. I know several Dems who are hoping they actually (narrowly) lose control of the House so the opposition has to start being at least somewhat constructive. As long as the Dems have a sweep, the GOP is going to do everything it can to sabotage.
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You've become a glass is half full poster I see.
You've become a glass is half full poster I see.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
Meh. People get so bunched up around here if they don't hear both sides so I figure I may as well lob from all angles at all times.
Common sense be dammed.
Meh. People get so bunched up around here if they don't hear both sides so I figure I may as well lob from all angles at all times.
Common sense be dammed.
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
If the GOP can't beat Obama in two years with an economy this bad, they may as well dissolve the party.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
If the economy stays this bad for 2 more years you may as well lock the doors and shut er down.
Greece II.
If the economy stays this bad for 2 more years you may as well lock the doors and shut er down.
Greece II.
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
Certainly the Kurds in Halabja or Iraqi Kurdistan would argue such. But many of them can't, as they were killed with mustard gas and Sarin by Hussein. But, hey, Saddam was just misunderstood, or something . . . .
Certainly the Kurds in Halabja or Iraqi Kurdistan would argue such. But many of them can't, as they were killed with mustard gas and Sarin by Hussein. But, hey, Saddam was just misunderstood, or something . . . .
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
Sure. But stuff like that is happening all over. You going to occupy them all? Oh, that's right, Iraq has oil..............my bad.
Sure. But stuff like that is happening all over. You going to occupy them all? Oh, that's right, Iraq has oil..............my bad.
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
Many thousands of people are being gassed with mustard gas and Sarin all over? That's one of the more ridiculous things I've seen posted around here lately.
The Halabja gas attack is recognized as the largest chemical weapons attack on a civilian population in history. Try again.
Many thousands of people are being gassed with mustard gas and Sarin all over? That's one of the more ridiculous things I've seen posted around here lately.
The Halabja gas attack is recognized as the largest chemical weapons attack on a civilian population in history. Try again.
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Unless our representatives take action to fix the longterm problems we face, this is going to be our future - economic recovery or not. Say hello to higher taxes, lower benefits, and horrendous economic growth.
ScottM
**** it feels good to be a bankster
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
I agree with this. Unless some people in DC summon some intestional fortitude over the next year or so to deal with the nation's long-term fiscal health, they may not have much of a choice to address these problems once the "bond vigilantes" start dumping Treasuries.
I agree with this. Unless some people in DC summon some intestional fortitude over the next year or so to deal with the nation's long-term fiscal health, they may not have much of a choice to address these problems once the "bond vigilantes" start dumping Treasuries.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
2004 called and wants to know why you've forgotten her.
2004 called and wants to know why you've forgotten her.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
solovsfett
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Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
ok - I get it you try and refute my points but don't know what points are? I'd ask you to back up your argument for a 2nd time but obviously that won't get me information.
this article and picture (if you need it) illustrates what I'm talking about on deficits with Bush v Obama. And again, I'm no Bush fan but you argued I had no facts so this illustrates Bush's deficits were nothing compared to Obama's real and projected (see CBO numbers)
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/
so we've got the debt
the unemployment rate
the takeover of car companies
the takeover of banks
the takeover of healthcare
what about that is fallacy?
ok - I get it you try and refute my points but don't know what points are? I'd ask you to back up your argument for a 2nd time but obviously that won't get me information.
this article and picture (if you need it) illustrates what I'm talking about on deficits with Bush v Obama. And again, I'm no Bush fan but you argued I had no facts so this illustrates Bush's deficits were nothing compared to Obama's real and projected (see CBO numbers)
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/
so we've got the debt
the unemployment rate
the takeover of car companies
the takeover of banks
the takeover of healthcare
what about that is fallacy?
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Did you seriously just equate the economic situation in '04 with the one we face now?
WeWantMore
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Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
Maybe he did. I took it more as saying Democrats were supposedly dead after they couldn't beat Bush in '04, then absolutely rolled in '08. In that same vein, Republicans were dead after '08 supposedly, and are looking set to do okay this November.
Did you seriously just equate the economic situation in '04 with the one we face now?
Maybe he did. I took it more as saying Democrats were supposedly dead after they couldn't beat Bush in '04, then absolutely rolled in '08. In that same vein, Republicans were dead after '08 supposedly, and are looking set to do okay this November.
solovsfett
Registered User
Re: Obama XV: Now, with 20% more rage
If you have a sweep, how can you be sabotaged? you control EVERYTHING. if they can't pass bills or have success with the presidency, a huge senate margin, and healthy house margin then there's nowhere to place blame except on yourselves for failure.
The GOP has no power right now.
If you have a sweep, how can you be sabotaged? you control EVERYTHING. if they can't pass bills or have success with the presidency, a huge senate margin, and healthy house margin then there's nowhere to place blame except on yourselves for failure.
The GOP has no power right now.
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