O Dam: I fear this won't end well

[Kepler]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

I disagree. We need each other.

I know the red states need the blue states' money. And red state politicians need blue states' social progress to rail against to keep their herds down on the farm.

I'm not clear on what the blue states need the red states for. BBQ I'll grant. And strippers. But after that there's a drop off.

 

[SJHovey]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

I know the red states need the blue states' money. And red state politicians need blue states' social progress to rail against to keep their herds down on the farm.

I'm not clear on what the blue states need the red states for. BBQ I'll grant. And strippers. But after that there's a drop off.

You need us to keep you grounded in reality.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

Headstrong rebel turns into a whiny little *****, and asks the person he insulted for help. http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/20...letter-now-california-begging-trump-for-help/

But you know, if they supposedly are so cash flow positive, why don't they just use their own profits.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

You need us to keep you grounded in reality.

The reality that women are hosts?

 

[Kepler]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

You need us to keep you grounded in reality.

The reality that we could make a little progress if we weren't hamstrung by all that red state deadweight.

Well, I guess that is true, in a way.

 

[Kepler]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

The reality that women are hosts?

SJ subscribes to the dictum that you make the change you want to see in the world.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

I'm not clear on what the blue states need the red states for.

Until someone in CA finishes the Star Trek food synthesizer the blue states need the ag from the red states.
Oh. Wait. What'll power it?

OK. Ag. Energy.

No major urbanized area is self-sustaining for food or energy.

 

[Kepler]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

Until someone in CA finishes the Star Trek food synthesizer the blue states need the ag from the red states.
Oh. Wait. What'll power it?

OK. Ag. Energy.

No major urbanized area is self-sustaining for food or energy.

The blue states aren't just cities, in fact CA is the leading agricultural state and third in energy production.

I also doubt most European countries are self sufficient in food. In fact it would be a return to Adam Smith sanity for the red states to specialize in what they are best at (agriculture, extractive industry) and the blue states to specialize in what they are best at (everything else). The red states can barter food and rhenium for higher scientific goods and services. A mutually advantageous third word to first world trading system. And with nobody educated beyond the fifth grade the red states would experience much less cognitive dissonance turning their populations back into feudal serfs under a theological-plutocratic master caste.

Everybody wins.

 

[SJHovey]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

The blue states aren't just cities, in fact CA is the leading agricultural state and third in energy production.

I also doubt most European countries are self sufficient in food. In fact it would be a return to Adam Smith sanity for the red states to specialize in what they are best at (agriculture, extractive industry) and the blue states to specialize in what they are best at (everything else). The red states can barter food and rhenium for higher scientific goods and services. A mutually advantageous third word to first world trading system. And with nobody educated beyond the fifth grade the red states would experience much less cognitive dissonance turning their populations back into feudal serfs under a theological-plutocratic master caste.

Everybody wins.

Nobody is saying we'd let you turn into a third world country. None of us want to see you sit in the cold and dark, eating avocados you foraged off the ground.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

The blue states aren't just cities, in fact CA is the leading agricultural state and third in energy production.

I also doubt most European countries are self sufficient in food. In fact it would be a return to Adam Smith sanity for the red states to specialize in what they are best at (agriculture, extractive industry) and the blue states to specialize in what they are best at (everything else). The red states can barter food and rhenium for higher scientific goods and services. A mutually advantageous third word to first world trading system. And with nobody educated beyond the fifth grade the red states would experience much less cognitive dissonance turning their populations back into feudal serfs under a theological-plutocratic master caste.

Everybody wins.

So basically blue areas want to enslave the red ones? No wonder we want to create New Amsterdam...

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

Nobody is saying we'd let you turn into a third world country. None of us want to see you sit in the cold and dark, eating avocados you foraged off the ground.

Actually, that is the plan. It's clear as day.

 

[Kepler]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

So basically blue areas want to enslave the red ones? No wonder we want to create New Amsterdam...

No. Red staters are too lazy and underskilled to make decent slaves.

We just want them off our welfare rolls.

 

[Kepler]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

Nobody is saying we'd let you turn into a third world country. None of us want to see you sit in the cold and dark, eating avocados you foraged off the ground.

Yes, because the people who think the Flintstones are a documentary are going to scientifically and economically surpass the people who go to MIT and Cal Tech.

 

[BassAle]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

I'm not clear on what the blue states need the red states for. BBQ I'll grant. And strippers. But after that there's a drop off.

left to themselves, you'll end up with a Christian Taliban theocracy. Nobody wants to live next to Afghanistan. We need the red states so we can influence them...


plus the red states have some great national parks and other federal land with great recreation opportunities. I'm considering a move to Utah at some point.

 

[Kepler]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

plus the red states have some great national parks and other federal land with great recreation opportunities. I'm considering a move to Utah at some point.

This is certainly true. But I think in the event of a divorce Utah would either stay with us or declare themselves independent Polygamous Deseret. To be honest, I think Texas would go indy too, so we'd probably get those two independent nations, the Christian Sharia Rump SEC, a White Nationalist Reich of ID, MT, and WY, and perhaps an Upper Mississippian Christian Republic run by megachurches and ADM, to go with the Pacific Commune and the Restoration States of Northeastern America (incl. Canada) and the Sane Parts of Great Britain.

By economic power the standings would be:

1. PC
2. RSNA
(a gap)
3. TX
4. POLY
(a big gap)
5. UMCR
(a bigger gap)
6. SEC
7. WNR

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

This is certainly true. But I think in the event of a divorce Utah would either stay with us or declare themselves independent Polygamous Deseret. To be honest, I think Texas would go indy too, so we'd probably get those two independent nations, the Christian Sharia Rump SEC, a White Nationalist Reich of ID, MT, and WY, and perhaps an Upper Mississippian Christian Republic run by megachurches and ADM, to go with the Pacific Commune and the Restoration States of Northeastern America (incl. Canada) and the Sane Parts of Great Britain.

By economic power the standings would be:

1. PC
2. RSNA
(a gap)
3. TX
4. POLY
(a big gap)
5. UMCR
(a bigger gap)
6. SEC
7. WNR

Canada doesn't join the RSNA and instead annexes Minnesota. They win.

 

[SJHovey]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

This is certainly true. But I think in the event of a divorce Utah would either stay with us or declare themselves independent Polygamous Deseret. To be honest, I think Texas would go indy too, so we'd probably get those two independent nations, the Christian Sharia Rump SEC, a White Nationalist Reich of ID, MT, and WY, and perhaps an Upper Mississippian Christian Republic run by megachurches and ADM, to go with the Pacific Commune and the Restoration States of Northeastern America (incl. Canada) and the Sane Parts of Great Britain.

By economic power the standings would be:

1. PC
2. RSNA
(a gap)
3. TX
4. POLY
(a big gap)
5. UMCR
(a bigger gap)
6. SEC
7. WNR

We just step up the fracking a little, PC will fall off like an old scab.

 

[Kepler]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

We just step up the fracking a little, PC will fall off like an old scab.

Be cutting your own throat, though.

Plus demand's going to be cut when the SEC drops back to coal, if not wood.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

The blue states aren't just cities, in fact CA is the leading agricultural state and third in energy production.

And yet they have rolling blackouts.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/21/investing/california-heat-wave-blackout-natural-gas/

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

And yet they have rolling blackouts.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/21/investing/california-heat-wave-blackout-natural-gas/

And yet they are the third lowest in energy use per capita:
https://www.eia.gov/state/rankings/

This site also lists California as the #11 producer of energy:
https://www.eia.gov/state/rankings/#/series/101

more interesting data:
https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=CA#tabs-1

More great data:
https://www.eia.gov/state/seds/data.php?incfile=/state/seds/sep_sum/html/rank_use_capita.html&sid=US
(CA is second lowest in energy use per capita for residential and commercial, is third lowest in overall usage, is 13th lowest in industrial usage, and 16th lowest in transportation usage per capita.)

This website is awesome!

ETA:
The customizable graph and data set is pretty sweet too
https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/browser/?tbl=T12.06#/?f=A

My entire afternoon is shot.