What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

It's being reported that Cam Ellsworth of UMass-Lowell is the front runner (https://mobile.twitter.com/mikemcmahonchn/status/1018164255802175489?s=21l I presume that means that he was one of the three finalists on campus last week.

The reaction of the Lowell fan base to the news is highly encouraging (they're distraught). Looking at his bio, I can see why. He seems like he would be an awesome hire - coaching experience at one of the top DI programs and having coached multiple NHL players. Should help immensely in recruiting, I'd imagine.

My only concern is that his entire career has been DI. That makes me think (with no evidence) that he would be more inclined to see Norwich as a stepping stone rather than a destination.

If the rumors are true then hopefully they can close. Announcement this week?
 
Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

NU Pastime said:
It's being reported that Cam Ellsworth of UMass-Lowell is the front runner (https://mobile.twitter.com/mikemcmahonchn/status/1018164255802175489?s=21l I presume that means that he was one of the three finalists on campus last week.

The reaction of the Lowell fan base to the news is highly encouraging (they're distraught). Looking at his bio, I can see why. He seems like he would be an awesome hire - coaching experience at one of the top DI programs and having coached multiple NHL players. Should help immensely in recruiting, I'd imagine.

My only concern is that his entire career has been DI. That makes me think (with no evidence) that he would be more inclined to see Norwich as a stepping stone rather than a destination.

If the rumors are true then hopefully they can close. Announcement this week?
Click to expand...

The one thing about the "stepping stone worry" is that MM only had DI experience when he came to NU, and he stayed at NU for the duration. (Of course he had two prior stops as a head coach, and was at a different stage in his career, too.) I hope in some way or another the committee will consider a projected length of stay for whoever they hire. I'd hate to see another search in a few years because a coach got "too big" for Norwich. The interesting thing about that scenario is that most guys who move on from success at one school often get destroyed at their next stop. I'm thinking of football/basketball coaches who get hired to "Power Five" conference schools from I-AA or "mid major" schools and burn their bridges only to lose their job in a couple of years.
 
Last edited:
NUProf said:
The one thing about the "stepping stone worry" is that MM only had DI experience when he came to NU, and he stayed at NU for the duration. (Of course he had two prior stops as a head coach, and was at a different stage in his career, too.) I hope in some way or another the committee will consider a projected length of stay for whoever they hire. I'd hate to see another search in a few years because a coach got "too big" for Norwich. The interesting thing about that scenario is that most guys who move on from success at one school often get destroyed at their next stop. I'm thinking of football/basketball coaches who get hired to "Power Five" conference schools from I-AA or "mid major" schools and burn their bridges only to lose their job in a couple of years.
Click to expand...

It’s so much closer in hockey...I’ve had some conversations with some big time hockey people recently. They unanimously said that Norwich is one of the best jobs in college hockey, at any level.

The leap in other sports from D3 to D1 is huge, in hockey it just isn’t. It’s so much smaller.

Based on what I’m hearing, if Ellsworth is the guy, he wants Norwich and he wants it for the foreseeable future.
 
Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

To look at this from another perspective, if he does indeed jump ship in a few years it'd mean that he had some considerable success at NU. That's be a good thing.

But we all definitely want our cake and to eat it too (a saying I've never understood, but I digress). That means following the example of McShane - success and commitment.

Krb, based off of what you're hearing, what reasons is Ellsworth giving for wanting the NU job?
 
NU Pastime said:
To look at this from another perspective, if he does indeed jump ship in a few years it'd mean that he had some considerable success at NU. That's be a good thing.

But we all definitely want our cake and to eat it too (a saying I've never understood, but I digress). That means following the example of McShane - success and commitment.

Krb, based off of what you're hearing, what reasons is Ellsworth giving for wanting the NU job?
Click to expand...

An opportunity to run a high level program, a chance to compete for championships every year, limited travel compared to D1 (he has a family), etc. In my eyes, all the right reasons.

Mike McShane was a rock star when he arrived, but he became a legend here. You don’t have to be a “D1 guy” to reach those heights within the profession.
 
KrbFlint said:
An opportunity to run a high level program, a chance to compete for championships every year, limited travel compared to D1 (he has a family), etc. In my eyes, all the right reasons.

Mike McShane was a rock star when he arrived, but he became a legend here. You don’t have to be a “D1 guy” to reach those heights within the profession.
Click to expand...

I like it. Let's get this done.
 
Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

IT'S OFFICIAL!!
According to College Hockey News.com .......they have a story confirming the above new Norwich Hockey Coach as just discussed. I found it on in the Div I hockey forum under the Lowell thread. Of course with all the "fake News" out there.............who knows what is true when we read the news??
Especially when you are an old geezer.
 
Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

Wow Norwich congrats on what seems like a GREAT hire!!! UVM people were talking about him as a replacement for Sneddon who is hopefully in his last year! You guys have the best program in the state BAR NONE it's not close to get someone of this caliber! Congrats again and belated congrats to the legend McShane himself on a great career!
 
Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

NU56 said:
IT'S OFFICIAL!!
According to College Hockey News.com .......they have a story confirming the above new Norwich Hockey Coach as just discussed. I found it on in the Div I hockey forum under the Lowell thread. Of course with all the "fake News" out there.............who knows what is true when we read the news??
Especially when you are an old geezer.
Click to expand...

Here it is!

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/07/16_Mass-Lowell-Associate-Head.php
 
Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

Would it be possible to stream the NU news conference today?
 
Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

NU56 said:
IT'S OFFICIAL!!
According to College Hockey News.com .......they have a story confirming the above new Norwich Hockey Coach as just discussed. I found it on in the Div I hockey forum under the Lowell thread. Of course with all the "fake News" out there.............who knows what is true when we read the news??
Especially when you are an old geezer.
Click to expand...

When you say "fake news" and enclose the term in quotation marks I'm going to assume that you are poking a little fun at the most egregious user of that term. That guy uses the term to reference the legitimate press, AKA the mainstream media or the journalists who produce usually truthful news at professional news organizations.

But I digress. College Hockey News.com had it right. Welcome to Norwich, Coach! We hope you'll love it in central Vermont and will continue your already-successful career at Norwich for many years to come. You have some WICKED big skates to fill.
 
Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

Norwich Third Bencher said:
When you say "fake news" and enclose the term in quotation marks I'm going to assume that you are poking a little fun at the most egregious user of that term. That guy uses the term to reference the legitimate press, AKA the mainstream media or the journalists who produce usually truthful news at professional news organizations.

But I digress. College Hockey News.com had it right. Welcome to Norwich, Coach! We hope you'll love it in central Vermont and will continue your already-successful career at Norwich for many years to come. You have some WICKED big skates to fill.
Click to expand...

Just having a little fun. Having a little fun gets be more difficult in your 80's. I agree, it will be a difficult act to follow. Expectations will be high. Glad to not see all gloom and doom on this site with the change.
 
Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

What I am watching for is to see if Coach brings in a few more recruits, guys UML looked at and for whatever season didn't sign and are still available. He still has a month before the start of school and doesn't seem like the type of coach who will stand pat.
 
hawk said:
What I am watching for is to see if Coach brings in a few more recruits, guys UML looked at and for whatever season didn't sign and are still available. He still has a month before the start of school and doesn't seem like the type of coach who will stand pat.
Click to expand...

What does the roster size look like right now? Most incoming coaches honor the old coach's recruits. If he recruits more, that could send a negative signal, particularly if the expected roster is ~25 or so.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top