Norwich 2016-17 Season Thread: ISO first NEHC title

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

I stand by the word clash. When they met earlier in the season the Cards had a but a one goal edge until the last 45 seconds of the game in their 3 to 1 win over NU. The SOG were about even. And no question the PSU Women have a winning tradition and a great club. But given the heart the NU women put into that Middlebury win last weekend tells me PSU will view this game as a one that could upset their plans for a fourth consecutive NCAA title. They're savvy enough to know that there are no "weak sister" opponents (pardon the pun) when your down to the final four. I look for a close game albeit acknowledging that PSU has an edge. Go Cadets.

From the Plattsburgh perspective: the Cardinals have a significant edge on all opponents, but I for one am not looking past anybody. Norwich has kept it relatively close against Plattsburgh twice this season. In the match at Kreitzberg, who knows how that game goes if Celeste Robert doesn't give up 2 goals on the first 2 shots she sees and was then promptly yanked in favor of King.

The Cards may have beaten Adrian 5-0 at Middlebury in November, but in January at Norwich they required a D losing her balance on a 2v1 in OT to get past the Bulldogs... those were Adrian's only 2 losses of the year (and they have a W over Utica and 2 Ws over Elmira), and they were both on neutral Ice. If it's Cardinals v Bulldogs, this one is on Adrian's home turf.

Gustavus seemed to be having a down year until this playoff run. They just upset last year's NCAA runner-up (who returned **** near everybody) on the road. Last year, they had a 3-1 3rd period lead in Plattsburgh before a lengthy delay as a GAC player fractured her neck (by the way, she scored their game winner last week). The year before, they made a great late comeback against Plattsburgh (at Stafford Ice Arena) to force their Thanksgiving Tournament game to a shootout (which Plattsburgh won). That was the game that sealed Allie Ross's fate and gave Camille Leonard the starter role in net, which she has not let up since.

As you can see, the Cardinals will have no easy opponents this weekend.

 

[Old Rook NU'66]

From the Plattsburgh perspective: the Cardinals have a significant edge on all opponents, but I for one am not looking past anybody. Norwich has kept it relatively close against Plattsburgh twice this season. In the match at Kreitzberg, who knows how that game goes if Celeste Robert doesn't give up 2 goals on the first 2 shots she sees and was then promptly yanked in favor of King.

The Cards may have beaten Adrian 5-0 at Middlebury in November, but in January at Norwich they required a D losing her balance on a 2v1 in OT to get past the Bulldogs... those were Adrian's only 2 losses of the year (and they have a W over Utica and 2 Ws over Elmira), and they were both on neutral Ice. If it's Cardinals v Bulldogs, this one is on Adrian's home turf.

Gustavus seemed to be having a down year until this playoff run. They just upset last year's NCAA runner-up (who returned **** near everybody) on the road. Last year, they had a 3-1 3rd period lead in Plattsburgh before a lengthy delay as a GAC player fractured her neck (by the way, she scored their game winner last week). The year before, they made a great late comeback against Plattsburgh (at Stafford Ice Arena) to force their Thanksgiving Tournament game to a shootout (which Plattsburgh won). That was the game that sealed Allie Ross's fate and gave Camille Leonard the starter role in net, which she has not let up since.

As you can see, the Cardinals will have no easy opponents this weekend.

Amen.

 

[Roy]

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Guess it just wasn't met to be. NU looked good early in the game, but the Platty Women got in there heads after that 3rd goal. I tend to hold the coach more for the big games. They just didn't look like they thought they could win. Penaltys are not a man or womans best friend.

 

[Revs89.2]

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Good luck to the Cadets today. I used to live in Central Vermont and saw many games and had friends who attended the school. Will be cheering you guys on!

 

[KRBFLINT03]

Good luck to the Cadets today. I used to live in Central Vermont and saw many games and had friends who attended the school. Will be cheering you guys on!

Hey, thanks!

 

[norm1909]

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See here, see here

Or easier - HERE.

Video for today's (3/18/17) women's third place game (Gust. Adolphus vs Norwich) is here.

 

[Old Rook NU'66]

I have no idea of how far this NU club can go...but I am still convinced while this team has great individual talent...I cannot recall an NU club that plays so well as a total team effort than this one. Their individual skills seem to compliment their teammates. Wow what a club...and I am so looking forward to next weekend in Utica. Go Cadets.

 

[KRBFLINT03]

I have no idea of how far this NU club can go...but I am still convinced while this team has great individual talent...I cannot recall an NU club that plays so well as a total team effort than this one. Their individual skills seem to compliment their teammates. Wow what a club...and I am so looking forward to next weekend in Utica. Go Cadets.

They're good enough to win the whole thing. Whether it happens or not remains to be seen.

 

[KRBFLINT03]

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6-2 domination of a team who just knocked off Oswego. Thank God the Cadets avoided good teams all year, due to their fear of them. Kiss my grits. Is Norwich for real yet, or do you have some more sarcastic and condescending opinions?

Finally, some of you celebrating tonight wrote this entire program off a year ago, and said we'd been passed by in everything, from recruiting to speed to scheme. Enjoy the thrill of victory - even though you don't deserve to.

On to Utica!

 

[peddler]

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They're good enough to win the whole thing. Whether it happens or not remains to be seen.

I agree, having watched them tonight. We will see them in Utica which their play deserves. This game was much more convincing than last week. But the lazy passes late in the game were still frustrating.

 

[NUProf]

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Pretty convincing.

So now we get Adrian.

One of the most penalized team (14th) with 18.2 PIM per game vs. One of the least penalized teams (6th least) at 8.9.

This makes me a little nervous because sometimes the Cadets get sucked into retaliating against those kinds of teams - (like CSC)

 

[lakont55]

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Make no mistake as Adrian is a heavily penalized team they are big and they can play.
I cannot believe the Cadets could pit up 6 on this goalie from Hamilton tonight. My hats off to the Cadets. Our Oswego boys did not fare well against him.
Utica should be a lot of fun, as we and many other visitors wish their teams were there

 

[Old Rook NU'66]

Pretty convincing.

So now we get Adrian.

One of the most penalized team (14th) with 18.2 PIM per game vs. One of the least penalized teams (6th least) at 8.9.

This makes me a little nervous because sometimes the Cadets get sucked

into retaliating against those kinds of teams - (like CSC)

With everything else equal, I have always believe that a disciplined offense without the unnecessary roughness trumps (pardon the pun) the rough stuff. Dumb penalties...are just that...dumb. Now we get to see if I am right. As I said earlier I believe that this is the best all around NU club I've seen in recent years. But also having attended that final four that saw NU and St. Norbert's go into two exhausting OTs...to see NU win the the closing seconds of the last OT..tells that me at this point anyone can win it. Go Cadets.

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

Pretty convincing.

So now we get Adrian.

One of the most penalized team (14th) with 18.2 PIM per game vs. One of the least penalized teams (6th least) at 8.9.

This makes me a little nervous because sometimes the Cadets get sucked into retaliating against those kinds of teams - (like CSC)

If the officiating that Adrian normally gets for its games is anything like the crap we got this weekend for the women's National Championship, I'm fairly certain Even Norwich would be called for a ton of penalties. Gustavus was one of the least-penalized teams in the country, and got smacked for 10 minors on Friday alone.

 

[joecct]

If the officiating that Adrian normally gets for its games is anything like the crap we got this weekend for the women's National Championship, I'm fairly certain Even Norwich would be called for a ton of penalties. Gustavus was one of the least-penalized teams in the country, and got smacked for 10 minors on Friday alone.

Wanna bet that the officials were told before the weekend to call the standard with no lee way?

 

[peddler]

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With everything else equal, I have always believe that a disciplined offense without the unnecessary roughness trumps (pardon the pun) the rough stuff. Dumb penalties...are just that...dumb. Now we get to see if I am right. As I said earlier I believe that this is the best all around NU club I've seen in recent years. But also having attended that final four that saw NU and St. Norbert's go into two exhausting OTs...to see NU win the the closing seconds of the last OT..tells that me at this point anyone can win it. Go Cadets.

I was there for that Final game in Lake Placid as well. I would suggest that, given the competition we have experienced this year, it is still hard for me to judge the national quality of this team, or to try to compare it to the last Cadet National Championship (men) team. My guess is that if they win Friday afternoon, I'll be able to have a better take on it as I leave Utica on Sunday.

 

[KRBFLINT03]

I was there for that Final game in Lake Placid as well. I would suggest that, given the competition we have experienced this year, it is still hard for me to judge the national quality of this team, or to try to compare it to the last Cadet National Championship (men) team. My guess is that if they win Friday afternoon, I'll be able to have a better take on it as I leave Utica on Sunday.

They aren't that 2010 team; that team was loaded - especially that one class with Thomas, Mulvey, Forkey, Cotnoir, etc. BUT, after last night, I am confident they are good enough to win the whole thing. That doesn't mean they will.

 

[peddler]

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Make no mistake as Adrian is a heavily penalized team they are big and they can play.
I cannot believe the Cadets could pit up 6 on this goalie from Hamilton tonight. My hats off to the Cadets. Our Oswego boys did not fare well against him.
Utica should be a lot of fun, as we and many other visitors wish their teams were there

Looking at the pre-game program last night revealed an interesting offensive comparison (which may have absolutely no statistical relevance whatsoever). When comparing the 5 top scorers for each team (which I have since tried to reconcile to the statistics for both teams, and can't), Norwich had approximately 166 points among those 5 (Pelletier, Salvucci, Smith, Flaherty & Piacentini), while the corresponding 5 for Hamilton had about 108. Since the level of goal-tending seemed to be similar, the Defensive ranks were almost equal, and the strength of their schedules was not too different, I was hoping that this apparent offensive advantage for the Cadets would play out. That was the game I watched last night for the most part.

 

[Old Rook NU'66]

They aren't that 2010 team; that team was loaded - especially that one class with Thomas, Mulvey, Forkey, Cotnoir, etc. BUT, after last night, I am confident they are good enough to win the whole thing. That doesn't mean they will.

Don't get me wrong that 2010 team was absolutely great with some superb individual talent...my favorite was Cotnoir who while almost one his back delivered an unforgettable winning goal against Middlebury...just as he delivered in Lake Placid against St. Norbert's great All American goalie that gave us the NCAA title. This years Cadet team seems loaded with talent as well...but now with two talented goalies in Braydon and Ty...what seems to be strong defense led by Cody...and all with Tyler, Will and Kevin up front with four solid scoring lines. But what just appeals to me most is this seems like more of a total team effort than ever before. Can't quite put my finger on it. But you are right...that 2010 team was something else.

But like you said even with all they have...at this point the NCAA title can be won by any of the four remaining teams. Go Cadets.

 

[Old Rook NU'66]

Looking at the pre-game program last night revealed an interesting offensive comparison (which may have absolutely no statistical relevance whatsoever). When comparing the 5 top scorers for each team (which I have since tried to reconcile to the statistics for both teams, and can't), Norwich had approximately 166 points among those 5 (Pelletier, Salvucci, Smith, Flaherty & Piacentini), while the corresponding 5 for Hamilton had about 108. Since the level of goal-tending seemed to be similar, the Defensive ranks were almost equal, and the strength of their schedules was not too different, I was hoping that this apparent offensive advantage for the Cadets would play out. That was the game I watched last night for the most part.

Interesting. Have you done the same exercise to compare NU to Adrian?