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Northern Michigan University Wildcats 2016-17 Season Thread: Gotta Get Up And Try

Re: Northern Michigan University Wildcats 2016-17 Season Thread: Gotta Get Up And Try

aparch said:
This is unknown territory that the hockey program is headed through. May the past schools who have navigated this path prior (MTU, BGSU, Notre Dame) or are still navigating through it (LSSU, UAA) act as the "canary in the mine shaft" to direct the University on how to proceed.

RPI, although a tiny specialized engineering school in New York, is currently along side us in these same troubled waters. Concern can be heard from them on how to proceed: Troy Record: Coaching change not enough to revive RPI hockey.
Please Forrest Kart and the Board of Trustees; please take heed, and progress wisely, fully prepared to support this program as it should be.
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A smaller school yes but still 7k plus students and an alumni base that has some serious cash. The other sports all D3 except for the women's hockey team D1.

Is their old barn OLD? YES very much but do they need a NEW place to win. I don't buy it and I base that on old Lakeview among other places, I mean look at the Mac, same old place, very well kept and updated. Not sure what RPI funding is but the money is out there for them if they know how to get it. I know details on their updates, been there very recently. They did do a great job on their ECAV, spent that money well but that was a decade ago, though you couldn't tell it was that long ago based on how it looks.

The article sounds more like an apology for the coach. They had some serious issues with some of their players and not sure it was handled the best way. Seth may be a great coach but the alumni were knocking on the door.

Face it each school that has increased their success has increased their funding. For some that was easy and some it will not be. Just changing coaches is not the answer, and whether Walt deserved more time is another story. You can argue just as the writer argued that RPI was looking better toward the end so were the Cats. Both coaches had been there a while under .500 records, and maybe just needed a change. We will soon see.

RPI did hire a search committee, not sure their full role but started there. Have not heard what the NMU plans are besides a nationwide search.
 
Re: Northern Michigan University Wildcats 2016-17 Season Thread: Gotta Get Up And Try

aparch said:
RPI, although a tiny specialized engineering school in New York, is currently along side us in these same troubled waters. Concern can be heard from them on how to proceed: Troy Record: Coaching change not enough to revive RPI hockey.
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"Tiny"? Their enrollment is just a bit smaller than MTU, and they are more selective due to location differences. :p
 
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Jesus people. :p :D



Anyway, and now there were four vacancies:
Niagara, Northern Michigan, Rensselaer and most recently Omaha.

Eyes have turned toward Maine and Michigan as the next potential head coaching openings.
 
Re: Northern Michigan University Wildcats 2016-17 Season Thread: Gotta Get Up And Try

aparch said:
Anyway, and now there were four vacancies:
Niagara, Northern Michigan, Rensselaer and most recently Omaha.
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Hey if you're happy with being average go after Dean and see if he wants to work some more. He did a great job at UND when he had all the talent in the world at his disposal and a program with money to burn. However he was barely average at UNO and ultimately went out in a "Blais of mediocrity" finishing a combined 4 games over 0.500 in his last five seasons. Sometimes the coach makes the program better and sometimes the program makes the coach look better. I think Blais at UND is the later of the two options.
Ryan J
 
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JohnsonsJerseys said:
Hey if you're happy with being average go after Dean and see if he wants to work some more. He did a great job at UND when he had all the talent in the world at his disposal and a program with money to burn. However he was barely average at UNO and ultimately went out in a "Blais of mediocrity" finishing a combined 4 games over 0.500 in his last five seasons. Sometimes the coach makes the program better and sometimes the program makes the coach look better. I think Blais at UND is the later of the two options.
Ryan J
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BUT BUT BUT I thought UNO was a like minded school, do they not fund things up to par?
 
giwan said:
BUT BUT BUT I thought UNO was a like minded school, do they not fund things up to par?
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*snicker*



Regarding Blais and UNO, I'm more of the opinion that an opening at UNO might take a potential candidate away from submitting for NMU. You could have a Rob Facca type who may have wanted to return to college after a stint as a pro recruit, familiar with NMU, and would rather go home to UNO. Or a Nathan Oystrick type who may throw his name in to UNO now instead of NMU so as not to have the pressure of guiding his alma mater weigh him down. And you may have multiple candidates applying to multiple schools with varying selection dates.

This is a very interesting chess game to play out this summer.
 
aparch said:
*snicker*



Regarding Blais and UNO, I'm more of the opinion that an opening at UNO might take a potential candidate away from submitting for NMU. You could have a Rob Facca type who may have wanted to return to college after a stint as a pro recruit, familiar with NMU, and would rather go home to UNO. Or a Nathan Oystrick type who may throw his name in to UNO now instead of NMU so as not to have the pressure of guiding his alma mater weigh him down. And you may have multiple candidates applying to multiple schools with varying selection dates.

This is a very interesting chess game to play out this summer.
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Oystrick, a one year ECHL assistant?
 
davyd83 said:
Oystrick, a one year ECHL assistant?
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Question your new buddy DonorRoomDrinker for campaigning for him. I just was using his name as an example. Would you rather I said Shyiak in the example? You're lucky I didn't hypothesis Axtell. :p


And two year. Oystrick was a player/assistant in Elmira under Jamie Russell...
 
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aparch said:
...a Nathan Oystrick type who may throw his name in to UNO now instead of NMU so as not to have the pressure of guiding his alma mater weigh him down...
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I would think an alum (assuming they are qualified) might get a longer leash than an outsider. Jamie Russell I believe got at least a couple extra years at Tech where as an outsider might have been cut loose sooner. You have to imagine a team would love to have a homegrown success story lead the team back to glory over an outsider. Just my opinion...
Ryan
 
aparch said:
Question your new buddy DonorRoomDrinker for campaigning for him. I just was using his name as an example. Would you rather I said Shyiak in the example? You're lucky I didn't hypothesis Axtell. :p


And two year. Oystrick was a player/assistant in Elmira under Jamie Russell...
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P/A in the ECHL is a way to write half the player's salary off your cap. You do some travel, some recruiting.
 
davyd83 said:
P/A in the ECHL is a way to write half the player's salary off your cap. You do some travel, some recruiting.
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So learn the ropes, get a little management experience (even in title only), and move on. Sounds like a good learning curve.

There have been some interesting names bandied about the thread, and the official posting allows quite a lot of wiggle room for experience.

Demonstrated hockey coaching experience as a head coach or an assistant coach at the NCAA Division I or III level or comparable coaching experience (e.g., experience with a tier I or tier II junior program, major junior program, or minor league professional team, etc.).
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That opens it up to interested parties with head or assistant coaching time on title at the NAHL, USHL, WHL, OHL, QMJHL, SPHL, ECHL, AHL, or NHL level and they have a bachelor's degree. Doesn't have a minimum coaching time required.
 
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aparch said:
And two year. Oystrick was a player/assistant in Elmira under Jamie Russell...
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I see the ultimate Yooper sports soap here. JR and Oystie to NMU? :p:D

EDIT: Yeah, we all knew about Axtell. Good to hear he cleaned up.
 
aparch said:
This is unknown territory that the hockey program is headed through. May the past schools who have navigated this path prior (MTU, BGSU, Notre Dame) or are still navigating through it (LSSU, UAA) act as the "canary in the mine shaft" to direct the University on how to proceed.

RPI, although a tiny specialized engineering school in New York, is currently along side us in these same troubled waters. Concern can be heard from them on how to proceed: Troy Record: Coaching change not enough to revive RPI hockey.

Please Forrest Kart and the Board of Trustees; please take heed, and progress wisely, fully prepared to support this program as it should be.
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Do the opposite of what we've done, spend money on what you actually need in order to compete, don't half *** it and leave the program out to dry a miserable death.
 
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I hope "aparch" is pleased that Rick Comley and Don Waddell are both on the NMU Search Committee to find a new NMU Hockey coach.... It will be interesting to see how he spins that!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
DonorRoomDrinker said:
I hope "aparch" is pleased that Rick Comley and Don Waddell are both on the NMU Search Committee to find a new NMU Hockey coach.... It will be interesting to see how he spins that!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The TV6 Story mentioned Don, but not Rick.

Northern's search underway for new head hockey coach

http://www.uppermichiganssource.com/content/news/Northerns-search-underway-for-new-head-hockey-coach-416275323.html
 
DonorRoomDrinker said:
I hope "aparch" is pleased that Rick Comley and Don Waddell are both on the NMU Search Committee to find a new NMU Hockey coach.... It will be interesting to see how he spins that!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What's there to spin? I'm glad two former people with close ties to the program are on the committee.
 
aparch said:
What's there to spin? I'm glad two former people with close ties to the program are on the committee.
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I am as well. I've known Rick for over 25 years and have talked to Don on many occasions. I've got nothing but respect for these guys. Tremendous hockey people.
 
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The NMU Men's hockey coach search should be in good hands with Rick Comley, Don Waddell & Forrest Karr on the search committee.... NMU AD Forrest Karr played college hockey at Notre Dame, coached in the ECHL and the USNDT U-18 team so I would assume they should be able to bring in some good candidates with all the knowledge, experience & contacts that they all have....
 
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