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Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

Re: Northeastern Huskies 2014 Offseason: Resurrection's Over....Now What?

..why? rest of the U. has changed.. time for AD to be part of the solution as well!..

For 30 years now I have felt like everything they do is put together half *** last minute. Like that game on a Saturday night just snuck up on them, they forgot all about it.
 
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Nobody went to games this year because the team was horrible the previous few years and then this year never played well or exciting hockey at home. Outside of the Maine weekend, which was the 2nd to last weekend of the season, the only other game to look forward to happened early on, the annual play above our heads to BC game.

Same thing will happen this fall again. Even if they manage to pull a game against an OCC team that managed a better then .500 record, nobody will care due to how the season ended. (I know the rumors about the Gophers, but until I see it on a season ticket, I wont believe it. Going back to Cronin, we dont get those teams anymore).

It has little to nothing to do with SAT scores, or being able to watch for free via the live stream. Because trust me, if the live stream were all that popular with students, the school would be bragging about it, which they dont.

Students do not go because they are not interested in it right now unless its a Beanpot final. To many years of losing and playing really bad at home under JM has lost a bunch of fans.

Think about it, every big win that JM has had has been on the road or a neutral site. Nothing to hook the new fans in with at home. Lets not forget, the season before the team started 2-0 at home, win over BC, and then went on to lose every other conference home game.

Its not really fair to blame JM per say, its just been the run the team has had under him at home has not been good. Play well at home, win some games against good teams, you hook a few more kids, and so on.
 
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Nobody went to games this year because the team was horrible the previous few years and then this year never played well or exciting hockey at home. Outside of the Maine weekend, which was the 2nd to last weekend of the season, the only other game to look forward to happened early on, the annual play above our heads to BC game.

Same thing will happen this fall again. Even if they manage to pull a game against an OCC team that managed a better then .500 record, nobody will care due to how the season ended. (I know the rumors about the Gophers, but until I see it on a season ticket, I wont believe it. Going back to Cronin, we dont get those teams anymore).

It has little to nothing to do with SAT scores, or being able to watch for free via the live stream. Because trust me, if the live stream were all that popular with students, the school would be bragging about it, which they dont.

Students do not go because they are not interested in it right now unless its a Beanpot final. To many years of losing and playing really bad at home under JM has lost a bunch of fans.

Think about it, every big win that JM has had has been on the road or a neutral site. Nothing to hook the new fans in with at home. Lets not forget, the season before the team started 2-0 at home, win over BC, and then went on to lose every other conference home game.

Its not really fair to blame JM per say, its just been the run the team has had under him at home has not been good. Play well at home, win some games against good teams, you hook a few more kids, and so on.[/QUOTE

To many years of losing and playing really bad at home under JM has lost a bunch of fans. That is funny, how about to many years of playing bad at home and losing, like 70 years or so. Funny how you attribute just the last 3 years.
 
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Roby is unbiased. He hates all sports that we can actually promote the name of the University at a national level, and in some cases (like men's hoops) make money. He doesn't do the hoop teams any favors, that's for sure - and he's a failed basketball coach and failed Reebok "executive."

He's more focused on women's ice hockey, track and field, and volleyball. How else do you explain our women's basketball coach still being employed after her "performance"

If it's Title IX, it's all for him.

Keep an eye out though, people close to him allegedly has been known to read DHD and other sites like this then check out LinkedIn profiles to let you know "they're watching."

Big Freaking Deal.
 
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To many years of losing and playing really bad at home under JM has lost a bunch of fans. That is funny, how about to many years of playing bad at home and losing, like 70 years or so. Funny how you attribute just the last 3 years.[/QUOTE]

well, most students do not remember the last 70 years. I do know that prior to JM taking over and tanking the program, drawing fans was not an issue the last two to three years of Cronin's time. Yes, it sucked Cronins first few years too, but it built it up to something.
 
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Roby is unbiased. He hates all sports that we can actually promote the name of the University at a national level, and in some cases (like men's hoops) make money. He doesn't do the hoop teams any favors, that's for sure - and he's a failed basketball coach and failed Reebok "executive."

He's more focused on women's ice hockey, track and field, and volleyball. How else do you explain our women's basketball coach still being employed after her "performance"

If it's Title IX, it's all for him.

Keep an eye out though, people close to him allegedly has been known to read DHD and other sites like this then check out LinkedIn profiles to let you know "they're watching."

Big Freaking Deal.

Peter Roby was the head basketball coach at Harvard for 6 years. Under his leadership Harvard’s won lost record consisted of 58 wins and 98 loses for a .372 W-L%.
To quote Bill Parcells;”You are what your are”
 
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To many years of losing and playing really bad at home under JM has lost a bunch of fans. That is funny, how about to many years of playing bad at home and losing, like 70 years or so. Funny how you attribute just the last 3 years.[/QUOTE]

well, most students do not remember the last 70 years. I do know that prior to JM taking over and tanking the program, drawing fans was not an issue the last two to three years of Cronin's time. Yes, it sucked Cronins first few years too, but it built it up to something.[/QUOTE]

JM has destroyed this storied program. Take a look at the history buddy, they are right where they have always been. Cronin had 1 ONE good year here. 3-13-16-25-16-14 win totals, Show me the dominance year in and year out? He was trending down his last 2 seasons. You talk about him like they are banners in the arena from him. Building something? What did he build? What you slam JM for, a team that just had a good goalie you overlook the fact that Cronin had the best goalie in HE. That 25 win team doesn't win 25 games with Clay Witt.
 
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The issue is simple but yet complex. You guys share you view points about the coaches, JM did this JM did that ditto with Cronin. It's pretty simple (player retention) and team chemistry. Player retention is critical the team to keep there players more than 2 to 3 Years will be a very good team what JM did this year with 12 new faces shows he is a coach that can mentor however his biggest challenge is to keep his hi end players and or role players. This year with all the talent coming back except for the captain this should be a hi end team possibly challenging do an HE title anything else should be considered a failure. The key thing is they only lost 1 key on defense and 1 key player on the offense the sophomores now in terms of next year need to step it up and press harder and the freshman coming in achieve that same chemistry as this years freshman than watch it this team will do some definite damage. The new captains must lead there worth will be off the ice where teams get there chemistry so the Captains will need to be the ones that brings this team together.
 
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I've been following this team for a long, long time and I can tell you that the Hockey attendance this year was, without a doubt, the worst I have ever seen for a team with a winning record.

To be fair this was 1 of only 3 winning seasons in the past 15+ years, and the others weren't preceded by single digit win years where everyone was fully off the bandwagon by January, so you'd have to expect it would be the worst attended winning season in almost any NU fan's memory, regardless of everything else about changing demographics, socioeconomics and "kids these days".

Also both BU and UNH's student tickets are free just like NU's.
 
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retsap...u r an idiot. cronin inherited an absolute mess...with horrible goaltending...& a horrible recruiting class. EVERY TEAM that wins 75% of their games has GREAT Goaltending. EVERY TEAM. Show me a team that wins even 65% of their games with poor goaltending. No coach needs to apologize for having good goaltending...it is the cornerstone of a good defensive team. Witt was their backbone for 90% of the year & would have taken them to the NCAA if they didnt lose 2 to poor BU team. Cronin's last 2 teams had horrible Rawlings who also puck stopped (or puck missed) JM's teams in his 1st 2 years...and JM teams had horrible records. Coaches are important, but goalies are more important for on ice success. Cronin's last 2 years would have had 20+ wins if Witt played & not Rawlings. If Cronin stayed...NU would have had 25+ wins because they would have had Johnny Hobey Baker & R.O.Y goalie Gillies. Furthermore, if Cronin hadnt come to NU, you would still be watching the games in an unrenovated dump called Matthews Arena whining about not having Crowder guiding the split N yet another to sub 500 records. dummy
 
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Why is everybody so angry? We have the best returning goalie in Hockey East and two of the top five returning forwards in Hockey East. I plan to eat, drink and be merry the entire off-season in anticipation of the best season in the past 70 years. The Witt announcement has changed everything - NU coaches, players and fans hit the lottery when that happened.
 
Why is everybody so angry? We have the best returning goalie in Hockey East and two of the top five returning forwards in Hockey East. I plan to eat, drink and be merry the entire off-season in anticipation of the best season in the past 70 years. The Witt announcement has changed everything - NU coaches, players and fans hit the lottery when that happened.

Hear, hear
 
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Cronin didn't get the renovations of the Arena done. Those plans were in the works before O'Brien hired him. His fingerprints are over WHAT was done (aesthetically), but the renovation project was not his idea. Next thing you know people will be claiming Cronin invented co-op and the quarter system.
 
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Why is everybody so angry?....

C'mon, gents. We really need to stop with the name-calling. Whether students, alums, or casual fans, people who care enough about this program to post on this board ought to be able to do so without receiving insults and personal invective in return. It's a great big world out there. People are inevitably going to form different opinions and see the same things differently.

Let's not turn the Northeastern thread into an exercise in groupthink.
 
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One of the least talked about keys to next year will be the development of this years freshmen class. And I am not talking about Szmatula, though he could add some more depth to his game, or a guy like Pond who is filler to begin with, its Benning, Stevens, and Hedges.

Benning had an up and down freshmen year. Benning played like the majority of our defense, against crappy teams and those who could not skate, he looked fine. Against good teams and those which had pace up front, he was abused. I think he has a chance to be a good one, but he is going to need to be alot better going forward. Not sure if our coaches have any idea how to work with defenseman either, really hoping that find someone with experience at it and bring them in as a consultant.

Stevens - Wicked uneven season which saw him play well to start, but really fall off come Beanpot time. As the games got tigheter and space smaller, he had trouble adjusting. I am not a big believer in +/- but he did end up a -12 on the season, far and away the worst on the team, and this from a kid who was centering the #1 line. Yeah playing with Roy could hurt on the defensive side, but Roy did end up in the + column, along with Pimm. Also, when Roy stopped scoring during the middle of the season, it was the lack of feeding him the puck that was the problem. And the 1 game we were shutout at UNH, guess who was the #1 center that night? I had high hopes for this kid. Right now not sure what he projects as going forward. Not a #1 center, not a checking-defensive role center. He needs to get better.

Hedges - I was not high on him coming in, and he did not impress me as much as he did everyone else on here. He is supposed to be an offensive dynamo, a guy who can help take the pressure off Szmatula and Roy, but not so much this year. Size, is a big problem for him as he is vertically challenged. Not much he can do about that. But this is a guy over his last 10 games, went scoreless in 9 of them. Only picking up points against Harvard, which was a theme for him this year, getting points against the bad ECAC teams and Hockey East teams. 8 of his 22 points were against ECAC teams, and not the good ones. Throw in another 4 against Merrimack and 2 against UAH and that is 14 of his 22 points. 17 of his 22 points were also scored in Oct-Dec, so much like Stevens he found it tougher when the games got tighter. To his credit he did well against ND and UVM, and maybe if he doesnt get hurt he plays better down the stretch, but that is just a maybe. I will say this, if he cannot score, he will be a waste here, along the lines of Jared Mudryk for older fans, because he will always be a liability on defense.

Not saying these three cannot get better, but that they will HAVE to get better if this team wants to continue to build on the shaky foundation they poured this year.
 
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One of the least talked about keys to next year will be the development of this years freshmen class

I agree that the development of the freshmen will play a major role in determining our success next season. You can add ZAR to your list of players, IMO, as he will be asked to shoulder a larger scoring load as well. I can see him used as Pimm was, a screener in front of the net for tips/rebounds/scrums. Pond is what he is, a grinder/hitter who centers the fourth line and gives 100% each shift. He's fun towatch, one of the guys I liked watching play most this season. If he can add a little bit of a scoring punch, he could develop into something like H.T. Lenz was for UVM this season- 4th line minutes guy who hits and can score the occasional goal. Lenz played wing, but I can see some parallels in their games.

Stevens and Hedges have some positive qualities. Both are very good face off men, with Hedges being our best percentage-wise if memory serves. Hedges is the better stick-hanlder of the two, whereas Stevens plays better along the boards. I agree with you, they both need to mature and take strides forward in some regard, mostly putting the put in the net, but I think they put down a good foundation this season. It also took JM a long while to find line combos that seemed to click. Maybe as they roll over into '14-15, the continuity and familiarity will help Stevens and Hedges produce more. I remember you putting Stevens with Reid when we were discussing lines on here last season, I liked that proposal. Hedges, when paired with someone who can finish like Rosenthal, could blossom as well. Maybe lines of McMurtry/Hedges/Rosenthal and Reid/Stevens/Stevens are something we see next year-John might play well with his brother on his line. Everyone on that line would be over 6'2'', which would be interesting for matchups.

Benning will be our top D next year. I think he grew over the course of the season, and while he had is hiccups and struggles, that was to be expected. He has good 2-way potential, though I'd like to see him (heck, I'd like to see the whole D corps) shoot more from the blue line. He may never develop into a 'shut down' guy, but I think Benning will develop into a legit top 2 D1 blue liner. I also am of the optimistic opinion that the whole D corps will grow and be better, with both the influx of new blood, possibly the loss of old blood, and the veterans having another year of experience under their belts.
 
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As always a very glass is ½ full kind of dribble from a lot of people <40 who have been conditioned to just see the world as a big blue happy marble. This team faltered miserably down the stretch, Witt in the last 10 games was grossly average and I think we were lucky a lot of the time and really never dominant. If you measure a season in terms of wins It was historically a top 5 or 10 performance but when you realize that for a program with a ½ century sub .500 record that really isn’t saying much.

By the 3 major measures of success that I value, it may have been the worst season ever with no wins against the only 2 teams that matter BC and a hapless BU squad that struggled to win 10 games and a >¼ century drought w/o a “Pot”.

As you all know, I don't think much of Madigan likely drawn from my years as a freshman when he was in both my Into. to Sociology and American Government classes, and I suspected he was a bit of a brick, however I do see him as a good recruiter and judge of talent, ability and formula and that may be as important, if not more so. So, as long as he is able to land some blue chips to ink with the Hounds, I am ok with his sometimes lackluster performance on the bench. I am told that the players generally seem to like him. I think he lacks passion, but I am only judging him from his post game wrap ups, in which he cant seem to find another adjective to describe "intensity level". LOL

On the bright note, we have many talented players including 2 or 3 “offensively gifted” kids. That’s great. The team is soft in transition and just average on D. I really don’t see the program moving in major strides that many of you feel it has. This season in reality is similar to many flash in the pan performances experienced with similar pop up results by, Ben Smith, Crowder and even Fern. Sadly, I predict it will not be sustained, for varied reasons but most rooted in the fact that it will be more and more difficult to win in this league as it expands and top players decide on greener more traditional programs with deeper success lines into pro hockey. That’s not to say we wont have a good product occasionally and that the team wont be fun to watch, as it will always be the best value in town for your $$, but the formula at NU is not sustainable to become a hockey powerhouse because the administration is not on board for it to become one. PERIOD!

In a league with many top programs the only real way to sustain success year in and year old is with an unyielding commitment form the administration and I don’t see it. My concerns are deeper than that, they run into the stands which are never full even though the seats may be sold. That is a problem. Reasons for students acquiescence vary as a Co-op school with lots of kids on campus and working or away the cohesiveness around to program runs in drips and drabs.

I have 16 co-op students in my office this semester in Natick. Of this group, all of whom interviewed with me, even if it was only for 5 minutes a straw pole during my short time with the young eager faces does not paint a good picture of this lot, a match book tally indicates only 8 have been to a hockey game and only 4 indicate they attended more the once since they were freshman and only 2 said they went regularly. Granted <25% of these kids are from the Northeast so selling the game is a problem too.

8 said they had no intention of going even if the team was great and here lies the problem, NU is quickly becoming the NYU of Boston. It’s demographic is national not regional there is no cohesiveness with regard to sports like their would be at any state school with a immediate bond between students of proximity so that takes care of programs like Maine, UMASS, Lowell, CT, Maine, VT and NH, who are sold out. Heck in Lowell the stands are filled with families, most of whom are not even alumni. I have witnessed it personally. So, that leaves us with big three BU,. BC, ND who well because of their deep winning traditions and unwavering support of the administration for the game, so they never have a problem selling seats. We just cant draw consistently. I am fast approaching an age where with kids grown my peer group are actually moving back to the city from the suburbs to live “in town”. An acquaintance recently mentioned to me he bought a condo in the Back Bay and also purchased season tix to BU, even though he is from Indiana and has no ties to either university, when I asked why, he said, beer in the stands and more comfortable seats. BC also has free parking for all games and its and easer draw for anyone west of the city.

Then there is PC and MC both who have small barns and enrollments comparatively and thus selling 1000 or 1500 tix fills up the space quite nicely which is almost as good. NU is on an island, and all alone to this regard,, a fairly large barn which seems empty, even when you sell 2500 seats. However this year I noted something new lots of seats sold but owners not showing up, and that is concerning. The seats at $400 plus bucks for a full season are inexpensive enough for you to just walk away form a season and not even resell the seats.

Lots of issues here and you would need a few marketing majors to try and fix it. So I am cautiously optimistic for the program in general, but until Roby is gone and I don’t see the potential for any major leaps and I don’t see him gone anytime soon, so I expect more of the same.

However, I will say this I expect CT to be a powerhouse in this league and they will have success early and fast and its just another team for NU to try and hurdle. Their pockets are deep and they have a total commitment from the university alumni and administration to be the top program in both basketball and now hockey, don’t let them out of your radar their AD likes to win and he likes to make $$ too.

The CT basketball franchise is worth way more than anything at BC and their revenue numbers from cable and endorsements are bigger than many small market pro baseball teams, like Tampa and Arizona, I know I mange their endowment. Now, that money and successful thought process is being siphoned and filtered into the hockey program, NU is going to continue to struggle until they get it in the front office or they will just continue to tread water in the mediocrity of the nations top league, until they get their arms around the issues they have off the ice,
 
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Well stated but again as its been stated if you win they will come. The disappointment of it all is that they did drop all 5 games to there city rivals and that they did not make the top 16. With that there must be improvements across the board. I believe that if the culture can change and it looks and sounds that it is than this team has a chance. This team has players like Benning, Stevens and Szmatula that have one championships and winning the tournament at ND was another confident booster. After losing the bean pot they lost allot of steam and that was something winning teams cannot do. Now with Stevens winning a under 18 championship will help improve that culture these 4 guys must and I emphasize must lead this team in that transformation maturity will be a major factor anything less than a 23 win season will be a failure
 
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