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Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
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They will be too amped and make mistakes. Watch.
SkinsFan09
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
If they make mistakes it won't be their emotions, it'll be the fact that there are 12 rookies on the team up against the second best team in college hockey.
If they make mistakes it won't be their emotions, it'll be the fact that there are 12 rookies on the team up against the second best team in college hockey.
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Same. Lots of "real disappointed" talk, clearly he was ticked off at the team's lack of effort/caring, but I didn't notice anything too drastic.
Same. Lots of "real disappointed" talk, clearly he was ticked off at the team's lack of effort/caring, but I didn't notice anything too drastic.
northeastern
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
It's right here..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIxnKE2j3Uc
no smoking gun.
It's right here..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIxnKE2j3Uc
no smoking gun.
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Over the course of the BC weekend, the team plus/minus with Schechter on the ice was plus 14 and the team plus/minus when he wasn't on the ice was minus 31. That's a difference of 45 or 22.5 per game. Given that there are usually 5 skaters on the ice in even-strength situations (the only time plus/minus is relevant), that means that we were 4.5 goals per game better when he was on the ice against BC (sorry for all the math). So, we should expect to see him against BC this Monday night, right? Maybe the smaller, quicker Dman is a better option against BC's quickness, right? Don't bet on it.
Over the course of the BC weekend, the team plus/minus with Schechter on the ice was plus 14 and the team plus/minus when he wasn't on the ice was minus 31. That's a difference of 45 or 22.5 per game. Given that there are usually 5 skaters on the ice in even-strength situations (the only time plus/minus is relevant), that means that we were 4.5 goals per game better when he was on the ice against BC (sorry for all the math). So, we should expect to see him against BC this Monday night, right? Maybe the smaller, quicker Dman is a better option against BC's quickness, right? Don't bet on it.
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Thanks for the help. The link from the NU Schedule page and the Twitter post goes to a different page where the video has been removed.
Thanks for the help. The link from the NU Schedule page and the Twitter post goes to a different page where the video has been removed.
Huskies of NU
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
The only Husky who showed up to play last night was Witt. He made some incredible saves. The first goal he let up looked a little soft, but honestly it's the first truly soft goal he's given up in awhile, and with the quantity of shots he's been seeing it was really just inevitable. Even with the soft goal allowed, he made a lot of really tough saves. The Huskies gave up a lot of odd-man rushes, including a 2-0, and Witt was up to the task each occasion.
The rest of the team simply didn't show up. Led by Roy, everyone looked like they were simply gliding around out there. Roy in particular was just coasting around even more than usual for him. Normally I would look at the low number of penalties (2, one of which wasn't actually a penatly--the play when the UMass player was injured) for NU and say it's a good thing, but I don't think this team is capable of getting fewer than 8 penalty minutes per game when they're playing hard. I think this low penalty mark is a good indicator of how unaggressive and disinterested the team was. UMass won all of the battles in the corners, mucked up the neutral zone, and really just outplayed the Huskies in all three zones. Mastalerz also had a very good game. He had one save in particular in the second period where he flashed his left pad to make a really good, athletic save.
The crowd size didn't help things either. The disinterest was very contagious between the fans and players it seemed. Small and very quiet crowd. This year's doghouse leadership has been very poor overall in my opinion.
I think Monday night is going to be very similar to the '09 beanpot final against bu--shorthanded goals galore. If gaudreau doesn't net a shorthanded goal Monday night I will be shocked.
The only Husky who showed up to play last night was Witt. He made some incredible saves. The first goal he let up looked a little soft, but honestly it's the first truly soft goal he's given up in awhile, and with the quantity of shots he's been seeing it was really just inevitable. Even with the soft goal allowed, he made a lot of really tough saves. The Huskies gave up a lot of odd-man rushes, including a 2-0, and Witt was up to the task each occasion.
The rest of the team simply didn't show up. Led by Roy, everyone looked like they were simply gliding around out there. Roy in particular was just coasting around even more than usual for him. Normally I would look at the low number of penalties (2, one of which wasn't actually a penatly--the play when the UMass player was injured) for NU and say it's a good thing, but I don't think this team is capable of getting fewer than 8 penalty minutes per game when they're playing hard. I think this low penalty mark is a good indicator of how unaggressive and disinterested the team was. UMass won all of the battles in the corners, mucked up the neutral zone, and really just outplayed the Huskies in all three zones. Mastalerz also had a very good game. He had one save in particular in the second period where he flashed his left pad to make a really good, athletic save.
The crowd size didn't help things either. The disinterest was very contagious between the fans and players it seemed. Small and very quiet crowd. This year's doghouse leadership has been very poor overall in my opinion.
I think Monday night is going to be very similar to the '09 beanpot final against bu--shorthanded goals galore. If gaudreau doesn't net a shorthanded goal Monday night I will be shocked.
Huskies of NU
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Huskies01, I don't often agree with your views, but I also did not like Madigan's attitude when the UMass player was down. Yes that was a bad call, but he needs to pick his spots better, or at the very least wait until the kid is up and off the ice. It was an ugly hit, but only because Hedges had been clipped/tripped into the UMass player. Madigan has proven to be a halfway decent recruiter so far, but his bench demeanor really annoys me, and the jury is still very much out on his coaching ability. He's almost constantly whining at the refs. There are times to do this of course, but it loses what little effectiveness it has when he constantly does it. The refs will just completely tone him out.
Huskies01, I don't often agree with your views, but I also did not like Madigan's attitude when the UMass player was down. Yes that was a bad call, but he needs to pick his spots better, or at the very least wait until the kid is up and off the ice. It was an ugly hit, but only because Hedges had been clipped/tripped into the UMass player. Madigan has proven to be a halfway decent recruiter so far, but his bench demeanor really annoys me, and the jury is still very much out on his coaching ability. He's almost constantly whining at the refs. There are times to do this of course, but it loses what little effectiveness it has when he constantly does it. The refs will just completely tone him out.
northeastern
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
I think the UMass player incident (in hindsight).. he'd have handled better. As has been said.. wait for the skater to lv the ice. Hindsight is 20/20. Last season for the most part (it looked like..), he was mia behind the bench. I like that he fights for the team as & when he feels he needs to. Not everybody is a York & that's okay. Madigan's no Cronin.. but I like the fire.. & the recruiting. Let's give it our best, Monday!
I think the UMass player incident (in hindsight).. he'd have handled better. As has been said.. wait for the skater to lv the ice. Hindsight is 20/20. Last season for the most part (it looked like..), he was mia behind the bench. I like that he fights for the team as & when he feels he needs to. Not everybody is a York & that's okay. Madigan's no Cronin.. but I like the fire.. & the recruiting.
Let's give it our best, Monday!SkinsFan09
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Good thing Maine lost so we still have a chance to finish 3rd in HEA. 2nd is gone now thanks to that embarrassment Friday.
Good thing Maine lost so we still have a chance to finish 3rd in HEA. 2nd is gone now thanks to that embarrassment Friday.
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Apparently you guys never watched a BU game during the Parker ERA. Nobody whined or complained more to the ref's then him. Luckily for NU Maine and UNH lost.
Apparently you guys never watched a BU game during the Parker ERA. Nobody whined or complained more to the ref's then him. Luckily for NU Maine and UNH lost.
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Why have the crowds been so small this year?
Why have the crowds been so small this year?
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And our guy is just as bad at it, if not worse due to the fact that he has never WON anything. He looks more like a basketball coach out there then a hockey coach. I am fine with some complaining or working the refs when you have earned it, but JM has not yet.
Look at the guy we face tomorrow. Keeps calm and carrys on. Shows in how his team plays too. We are Yell more and get no results. .
Funny thing is, with the guys we have it at forward, they do an excellent job of drawing penalties without any help. Problem is no one on our current coaching staff has any idea of how to put together a powerplay that works.
Hopefully Madigan sent an apology to the UMASS staff for acting like a buffoon during that injury, and the idiot who put the replay on the scoreboard 3 times gets reprimanded too.
As for why the small crowds, have you seen this team play? The games are wicked boring to watch because the majority of time is watching our guys chase the puck around in our dzone and Witt make saves. Plus, where is the big home win over a good team this year? Vermont a few weeks back? UML at Fenway?
And our guy is just as bad at it, if not worse due to the fact that he has never WON anything. He looks more like a basketball coach out there then a hockey coach. I am fine with some complaining or working the refs when you have earned it, but JM has not yet.
Look at the guy we face tomorrow. Keeps calm and carrys on. Shows in how his team plays too. We are Yell more and get no results. .
Funny thing is, with the guys we have it at forward, they do an excellent job of drawing penalties without any help. Problem is no one on our current coaching staff has any idea of how to put together a powerplay that works.
Hopefully Madigan sent an apology to the UMASS staff for acting like a buffoon during that injury, and the idiot who put the replay on the scoreboard 3 times gets reprimanded too.
As for why the small crowds, have you seen this team play? The games are wicked boring to watch because the majority of time is watching our guys chase the puck around in our dzone and Witt make saves. Plus, where is the big home win over a good team this year? Vermont a few weeks back? UML at Fenway?
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Thiessen'sBetter
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
I have no problem with them showing the replay in the arena. I was watching the puck and saw a large collision out of the corner of my eye (probably like the refs did) and legitimately wondered what happened. Its not their fault if Madigan screams his head off when a UMass player is down.
I have no problem with them showing the replay in the arena. I was watching the puck and saw a large collision out of the corner of my eye (probably like the refs did) and legitimately wondered what happened. Its not their fault if Madigan screams his head off when a UMass player is down.
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Given how badly the team played Friday night, what are the odds that he plays the same exact lineup Monday night? I say that he will because he has shown that he believes in redemption - if a lineup plays terribly, he gives them a chance to redeem themselves. A bit bizarre. Most coaches would shake things up and sit some players.
Given how badly the team played Friday night, what are the odds that he plays the same exact lineup Monday night? I say that he will because he has shown that he believes in redemption - if a lineup plays terribly, he gives them a chance to redeem themselves. A bit bizarre. Most coaches would shake things up and sit some players.
Split-N
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
I really think you're on to something here. It's bad enough that attendance is beyond embarrassing but those relative few who are in the seats seem totally indifferent. I've seen livelier crowds at wakes. Fact of the matter is that crowd size and intensity really do motivate competitive athletes in any sport, so indifferent fans can contribute to indifferent play, at least on a subconscious level. Not trying to say that this explains the collapse we saw on Friday night but I'd be inclined to list it as a contributing factor.
So why the attendance problem? (BTW, it's worse for hoops.) I know that some alums are staying away so long as the current AD remains in place but this doesn't count for much in the big picture. I also know that college kids in Boston have a seemingly endless list of things that compete for their attention. But looking at attendance stats, we seem to be doing much worse than anyone else in HEA. Even Harvard is doing better than us.
Could it be that the best way to become a Top 50 school is to admit snobby, entitled kids who are so full of themselves that they're indifferent to everything else? Or is it more a case of the free stream keeping them in their toasty warm rooms on cold nights?
I really think you're on to something here. It's bad enough that attendance is beyond embarrassing but those relative few who are in the seats seem totally indifferent. I've seen livelier crowds at wakes. Fact of the matter is that crowd size and intensity really do motivate competitive athletes in any sport, so indifferent fans can contribute to indifferent play, at least on a subconscious level. Not trying to say that this explains the collapse we saw on Friday night but I'd be inclined to list it as a contributing factor.
So why the attendance problem? (BTW, it's worse for hoops.) I know that some alums are staying away so long as the current AD remains in place but this doesn't count for much in the big picture. I also know that college kids in Boston have a seemingly endless list of things that compete for their attention. But looking at attendance stats, we seem to be doing much worse than anyone else in HEA. Even Harvard is doing better than us.
Could it be that the best way to become a Top 50 school is to admit snobby, entitled kids who are so full of themselves that they're indifferent to everything else? Or is it more a case of the free stream keeping them in their toasty warm rooms on cold nights?
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
As a student, it is very disheartening each week to see the turnouts be what they are. The last couple years, when the team played terribly, we were still able to pack the Doghouse, and yet this year when we actually play well, we hardly sniff capacity. I don't get it. Part of it may be related to the stream, but I believe a large part of it is that NU does not advertise the notion of what a student section can and should be. I've had friends bail on games because they feel they don't impact the game, the games are boring, them going won't change the outcome- NU does not do a good job, imo, of promoting what the gameday experience should be. Yes, Boston offers a variety of options for you to spend your Friday and Saturday nights on, but NU should be able to market a top 12 team in the nation to compete with them. The Beanpot gets a large student turnout because of the experience of it. Regular games at Matthews need to have that same appeal. The team deserves the institution's and the study body's full support this year with how far they've come, and yet it feels in their eyes we are still mired in last place.
Split N is right, basketball is even worse when it comes to attendance. And yet I have seen more advertising for basketball than hockey this year around campus. A couple guys who are part of the Doghouse "leadership" this year also run the N-Zone, and some basketball games feel quieter than the library. Maybe it's an off year for rowdy leadership..a couple individuals are very passionate and let it be known, but on the whole the most of the upperclassmen are too, too quiet.
As a student, it is very disheartening each week to see the turnouts be what they are. The last couple years, when the team played terribly, we were still able to pack the Doghouse, and yet this year when we actually play well, we hardly sniff capacity. I don't get it. Part of it may be related to the stream, but I believe a large part of it is that NU does not advertise the notion of what a student section can and should be. I've had friends bail on games because they feel they don't impact the game, the games are boring, them going won't change the outcome- NU does not do a good job, imo, of promoting what the gameday experience should be. Yes, Boston offers a variety of options for you to spend your Friday and Saturday nights on, but NU should be able to market a top 12 team in the nation to compete with them. The Beanpot gets a large student turnout because of the experience of it. Regular games at Matthews need to have that same appeal. The team deserves the institution's and the study body's full support this year with how far they've come, and yet it feels in their eyes we are still mired in last place.
Split N is right, basketball is even worse when it comes to attendance. And yet I have seen more advertising for basketball than hockey this year around campus. A couple guys who are part of the Doghouse "leadership" this year also run the N-Zone, and some basketball games feel quieter than the library. Maybe it's an off year for rowdy leadership..a couple individuals are very passionate and let it be known, but on the whole the most of the upperclassmen are too, too quiet.
Carmine Scarpaglia
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
I have to be honest I come away from NU games thinking the same thing. He is constantly being a buffoon behind the bench on the televised games and they show it constantly on the air. It's really sad to watch. Even when watching BU games, Parker was never this bad. Madigan needs to pick his spots better. When Greg Cronin used to go on his roid rages back there, people noticed and it was because he didn't do it every 3 seconds.
I have to be honest I come away from NU games thinking the same thing. He is constantly being a buffoon behind the bench on the televised games and they show it constantly on the air. It's really sad to watch. Even when watching BU games, Parker was never this bad. Madigan needs to pick his spots better. When Greg Cronin used to go on his roid rages back there, people noticed and it was because he didn't do it every 3 seconds.
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