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Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
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Chickens@NU
A Mini Rooster and a Mini Hen
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Well, they are the highest scoring team in the country at the moment.
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Still, I've seen them getting some flack because of the quality of opponent they have played up till now. I also thought the split vs SLU would cause us to fall out of the Top 20, not rise up a spot.
Still, I've seen them getting some flack because of the quality of opponent they have played up till now. I also thought the split vs SLU would cause us to fall out of the Top 20, not rise up a spot.
CollegeHockeyRinkReport
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/201...ro-suspended-slashing-st-lawrence-jim-madigan
Cody Ferriero suspended two games for slashing incident at St. Lawrence.
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/201...ro-suspended-slashing-st-lawrence-jim-madigan
Cody Ferriero suspended two games for slashing incident at St. Lawrence.
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DieHardDog
Let's go Huskies!
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
They played better without him on Friday, IMO. There's at least 4 PIM bc won't see now.
They played better without him on Friday, IMO. There's at least 4 PIM bc won't see now.
Happy Husky
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
#19 on the USCHO rankings,a 5-1 record,and the highest scoring team in the country!,is this really happening? ok,you can burst my bubble if you want but you cant take my devotion to the team,I'm used to the hardship and difficult years as a fan,but it's fun to have some good games,I'm not blind to reality,but it's nice to see the team (and the university) have some success.
Most everyone knows Friday's game is on national TV http://www.uscho.com/team/northeastern/-whats even cooler is Dave Goucher (voice of the Boston Bruins and NBCSN) is doing the gamecall
#19 on the USCHO rankings,a 5-1 record,and the highest scoring team in the country!,is this really happening? ok,you can burst my bubble if you want but you cant take my devotion to the team,I'm used to the hardship and difficult years as a fan,but it's fun to have some good games,I'm not blind to reality,but it's nice to see the team (and the university) have some success.
Most everyone knows Friday's game is on national TV http://www.uscho.com/team/northeastern/-whats even cooler is Dave Goucher (voice of the Boston Bruins and NBCSN) is doing the gamecall
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Lets put this into perspective for a moment. The first 4 wins was against a bunch of orange traffic cones. This past weekend was more telling. It was a pretty even matchup, but the holes that we knew were there popped up. For long stretches of games they barely saw the puck, the PK was horrible, the guys on defense who cannot skate got exposed, and they spent what seemed like half of each game in the penalty box.
All we learned from this team so far is they go to the net hard, and they play really well against the worst of the worst in college hockey.
It will be interested to see how long the games this weekend stay competitive. For a change, I think NU's best chance is to try to play a high scoring up and down game with BC, because we do not have the horses on the blue line to keep up. We are probably giving up minimum 4 each game this weekend. They did not slow down SLU, they are not going to slow down BC. BC's top 2 lines are going to get theres, its up to NU's top two lines to also score.
As for the university, it has been having success everywhere but on the ice. Top 50 University now, all this without a hockey team.
Lets put this into perspective for a moment. The first 4 wins was against a bunch of orange traffic cones. This past weekend was more telling. It was a pretty even matchup, but the holes that we knew were there popped up. For long stretches of games they barely saw the puck, the PK was horrible, the guys on defense who cannot skate got exposed, and they spent what seemed like half of each game in the penalty box.
All we learned from this team so far is they go to the net hard, and they play really well against the worst of the worst in college hockey.
It will be interested to see how long the games this weekend stay competitive. For a change, I think NU's best chance is to try to play a high scoring up and down game with BC, because we do not have the horses on the blue line to keep up. We are probably giving up minimum 4 each game this weekend. They did not slow down SLU, they are not going to slow down BC. BC's top 2 lines are going to get theres, its up to NU's top two lines to also score.
As for the university, it has been having success everywhere but on the ice. Top 50 University now, all this without a hockey team.
northeastern
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Rome wasn't built in a day, and this program will not be made into a perennial contender in one season (three now for JM). There are still flaws that need to be addressed, both immediately and over time (defense, PK, penalties). However, there are positives to build on- the offense has been a show this season, the PP has finally clicked, and we have had very good play from 2 of our goaltenders, both of whom will be back next year (barring something unexpected). Just one man's opinion, but I believe there are definitely reasons for optimism.
On a positive note, NU received a verbal commitment tonight from '96 NTDP F Nolan Stevens, brother of freshman John.
Rome wasn't built in a day, and this program will not be made into a perennial contender in one season (three now for JM). There are still flaws that need to be addressed, both immediately and over time (defense, PK, penalties). However, there are positives to build on- the offense has been a show this season, the PP has finally clicked, and we have had very good play from 2 of our goaltenders, both of whom will be back next year (barring something unexpected). Just one man's opinion, but I believe there are definitely reasons for optimism.
On a positive note, NU received a verbal commitment tonight from '96 NTDP F Nolan Stevens, brother of freshman John.
NU Speed Racer
Doghouse Alum
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Here are my thoughts on the weekend as I was one of 5 Huskies fans in attendance.
Friday
Thought we were out played for the first two periods. Witt kept us in the game for the most part. The win came from us being the more disciplined and conditioned team. After a couple of minutes into the 3rd, STL was completely gassed and it was only a matter of time until we capitalized on it. Hence the extra couple of goals once we took the lead.
Saturday
Its hard to come out here and talking bad about referees without coming off sounding like a crybaby. But after this game, I am actually happy for the refs that we have in HE. This game got very chippy very early. I think our fatal flaw came early in the first in our defensive zone where there was a whistle and some horseplay afterwards. I don't know if something was said to the refs or what little nuance happened, but Manson got most of the refs attention and was warned very harshly by them. As did Madigan from there on as well. This led to the matching minors late in the first. Saucerman and the STL player jawed at each other for the entire penalty and continued it on the ice afterwards.
Where the real issue on the refs affecting the play comes in the 2nd. NU makes it 3-2. And then something I've never seen before. Now I don't know how many warnings Madigan got, but one of the refs took it upon himself to issue a delay of game for a late change by us. I thought the punishment for late changes is that the players have to come back out. This penalty leads to a goal. What gets me though was that there were instances by both teams that should have also gotten this penalty. The precident was set, so why not more. I digress. 4-2. Then Lauwers penalty for charging was baffling. Guy had the puck, head down. Lauwers pinches maybe a stride and levels him. Penalty. Goal. 5-2. Game over.
And then the game got absolutely silly. The refs miss a lot of both sides. They called ticky tack stuff, but the trips, and hooks were allowed. Impossible to figure out what you can and cannot do. And then the linesmen were confused, they were on the same end of the rink, there was no one on the blueline to call an offsides, they missed some blatant icings. And most of it was in our favor.
Finally we have Ferriero. EMBARRASSMENT! I know he got 2 games, but in the NHL that would have gotten at least 20. It was as bad as Chris Simon's slash on Ryan Hollweg and he got 25 and almost criminal charges. He's one of our better players and a leader. Absolutely embarrassing and unforgiveable. If he was kicked off the team for this, I wouldn't be upset in the least.
As for the goalie situation... DRoy was not at fault for at least 3 of his goals. Left out to dry and at the mercy of a decent PP by STL. No goalie would make those saves. However, he looked extremely shaky in the first period. He got it together for the other 2 periods though.
In my eyes we have a clear starter and we have a backup who's good enough to split time for the lesser weekends. Personally I expect Witt in goal for both this weekend, and think we have a better shot at a split in doing so.
Oh and for any STL posters that read this, your fans and students are extremely welcoming and friendly. Enjoyed hanging out in the Blue Line Club.
Here are my thoughts on the weekend as I was one of 5 Huskies fans in attendance.
Friday
Thought we were out played for the first two periods. Witt kept us in the game for the most part. The win came from us being the more disciplined and conditioned team. After a couple of minutes into the 3rd, STL was completely gassed and it was only a matter of time until we capitalized on it. Hence the extra couple of goals once we took the lead.
Saturday
Its hard to come out here and talking bad about referees without coming off sounding like a crybaby. But after this game, I am actually happy for the refs that we have in HE. This game got very chippy very early. I think our fatal flaw came early in the first in our defensive zone where there was a whistle and some horseplay afterwards. I don't know if something was said to the refs or what little nuance happened, but Manson got most of the refs attention and was warned very harshly by them. As did Madigan from there on as well. This led to the matching minors late in the first. Saucerman and the STL player jawed at each other for the entire penalty and continued it on the ice afterwards.
Where the real issue on the refs affecting the play comes in the 2nd. NU makes it 3-2. And then something I've never seen before. Now I don't know how many warnings Madigan got, but one of the refs took it upon himself to issue a delay of game for a late change by us. I thought the punishment for late changes is that the players have to come back out. This penalty leads to a goal. What gets me though was that there were instances by both teams that should have also gotten this penalty. The precident was set, so why not more. I digress. 4-2. Then Lauwers penalty for charging was baffling. Guy had the puck, head down. Lauwers pinches maybe a stride and levels him. Penalty. Goal. 5-2. Game over.
And then the game got absolutely silly. The refs miss a lot of both sides. They called ticky tack stuff, but the trips, and hooks were allowed. Impossible to figure out what you can and cannot do. And then the linesmen were confused, they were on the same end of the rink, there was no one on the blueline to call an offsides, they missed some blatant icings. And most of it was in our favor.
Finally we have Ferriero. EMBARRASSMENT! I know he got 2 games, but in the NHL that would have gotten at least 20. It was as bad as Chris Simon's slash on Ryan Hollweg and he got 25 and almost criminal charges. He's one of our better players and a leader. Absolutely embarrassing and unforgiveable. If he was kicked off the team for this, I wouldn't be upset in the least.
As for the goalie situation... DRoy was not at fault for at least 3 of his goals. Left out to dry and at the mercy of a decent PP by STL. No goalie would make those saves. However, he looked extremely shaky in the first period. He got it together for the other 2 periods though.
In my eyes we have a clear starter and we have a backup who's good enough to split time for the lesser weekends. Personally I expect Witt in goal for both this weekend, and think we have a better shot at a split in doing so.
Oh and for any STL posters that read this, your fans and students are extremely welcoming and friendly. Enjoyed hanging out in the Blue Line Club.
NU Speed Racer
Doghouse Alum
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
While down 6-4 with 20 seconds to go and an empty net a St. Lawrence player had a step on Ferriero and a clear shot at the goal. Ferriero rushed back to catch him. Once he did he turned to skate backwards and took a two handed baseball swing that would have made David Ortiz proud. He caught the St. Lawrence player high, but from my angle, I couldn't tell you if it was the shoulder, neck, or facemask (not that it matters).
While down 6-4 with 20 seconds to go and an empty net a St. Lawrence player had a step on Ferriero and a clear shot at the goal. Ferriero rushed back to catch him. Once he did he turned to skate backwards and took a two handed baseball swing that would have made David Ortiz proud. He caught the St. Lawrence player high, but from my angle, I couldn't tell you if it was the shoulder, neck, or facemask (not that it matters).
hockeyplayer1015
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
NU Speed Racer, I could very well be wrong, as I was forced to watch the video feed and they may have announced the delay of game penalty you mentioned more specifically, but my first thought was that penalty was called for knocking the net off. Again, I could be wrong, and I was a little confused along with the radio/video announcers, but that was what I pinned it on.
Regardless, you got to see why most ECAC fan bases are very unsatisfied with the usual group of officials in the league. Once in a while, you will get a well officiated game, but it's pretty rare, unfortunately. The only consistent thing is inconsistency. Frustrating, to say the least.
Glad to read that you enjoyed the trip, the fans, and the rink.
NU Speed Racer, I could very well be wrong, as I was forced to watch the video feed and they may have announced the delay of game penalty you mentioned more specifically, but my first thought was that penalty was called for knocking the net off. Again, I could be wrong, and I was a little confused along with the radio/video announcers, but that was what I pinned it on.
Regardless, you got to see why most ECAC fan bases are very unsatisfied with the usual group of officials in the league. Once in a while, you will get a well officiated game, but it's pretty rare, unfortunately. The only consistent thing is inconsistency. Frustrating, to say the least.
Glad to read that you enjoyed the trip, the fans, and the rink.
NU Speed Racer
Doghouse Alum
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
The penalty came with us in the offensive zone. It also came after I believe it was Baker and Madigan had an argument. It was right in front of my seats and it was clear Baker was telling Madigan it was because of the late change.
The penalty came with us in the offensive zone. It also came after I believe it was Baker and Madigan had an argument. It was right in front of my seats and it was clear Baker was telling Madigan it was because of the late change.
SkinsFan09
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Let's put this in better perspective...we won 9 games last year. We got destroyed by Bentley and SLU at Matthews last year by a combined score of 12-6. We scored 81 goals last season playing the likes of UAH. Our PP sucked last season even against those teams.
Is anyone claiming us to be world beaters? No.
So is it fair to say we have improved, yes.
Let's put this in better perspective...we won 9 games last year. We got destroyed by Bentley and SLU at Matthews last year by a combined score of 12-6. We scored 81 goals last season playing the likes of UAH. Our PP sucked last season even against those teams.
Is anyone claiming us to be world beaters? No.
So is it fair to say we have improved, yes.
Happy Husky Victory!
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Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
Please also allow me to shed some light on the weekend up in Canton. Totally agree with the analysis of Friday nights game. Saturday night is a different story. I am going to have to disagree with some of my friend NUSpeedRacer's comments regarding Saturday night. The game was out of control from the start. The referees that the ECAC put there were just awful. They had NO CONTROL of the game from the start. I think it started in the first period when it looked to me like we had scored a goal. The puck seemed (to me) to sneak inside the post, goalie got his glove up but it hit the glove while the goalie's glove was inside the net, and he batted the puck out. Madigan seemed to want the refs to take a look and they refused his request. To me, that started everything. From there, SpeedRacer is right, refs were calling things that werent penalties and not calling things that were. Nobody in the stands or on the ice seemed to know what the rules were anymore. Then the refs called a penalty on NU for delay of game or something with the late changes, later someone mentined that it was because the net kept coming off the pegs. By the way, that is how BU has been playing hockey for decades and getting away with it. Make late changes and then blatently knock the net off when they know that D is out of position and/or the goalie is in trouble......Anyway..... We get called for that penalty which now exacerbates the problem. Now our bench is barking at the refs at any opportunity. The game is totally out of control, there are scraps and scrums all over and Saucerman and a St. Lawrence player go for matching penalties. They jaw at each other for all 2 minutes in between a very uncomfortalble looking penalty box attendant. You've seen the type, the guy is in the middle of these two and he's just trying to pretend that he's paying attention to the game and not hearing the insults and who knows what that is coming from these two guys. Then Kevin Roy gets his helmet ripped off of his head by an SLU guy is rightfully ****ed about it, is upset at the refs for just letting it happen and he (K Roy) is the one that gets a penalty. Next, comes the icing call in the 3rd. SLU ices the puck, everybody's gotta stay on the ice, no line changes. But these Bozos (no relation to Peter Roby) dont even look toward the SLU bench and they start changing guys on the ice. One of the refs notices it eventually and then they try to figure out who was out there that should remain on the ice. So these refs start pointing to different guys to come back on the ice, as they turn their back, other guys get on and off the ice behind thier backs. It was just a joke. Finally, I think they decided that it would be too embarassing for them to look at some video footage to tell who was on the ice at the time of the icing so they just went ahead with the faceoff. Now, THAT should have been a delay of game/unsportsmanlike penatly. But it wasnt.......Fast forward to the Ferriero incident. Frankly, and this is where I part ways with my friend SpeedRacer, I'm not surprised that it happened, and not because I think that Ferriero is a hot head or whatever. It's because the referees totally botched this game from the get-go. The level of frustration hit an all time high and this is what happens when guys totally lose control of officiating a game. ECAC should be embarrased by this and I hope Madigan writes a letter to the ECAC and NCAA. Really awful stuff.
Please also allow me to shed some light on the weekend up in Canton. Totally agree with the analysis of Friday nights game. Saturday night is a different story. I am going to have to disagree with some of my friend NUSpeedRacer's comments regarding Saturday night. The game was out of control from the start. The referees that the ECAC put there were just awful. They had NO CONTROL of the game from the start. I think it started in the first period when it looked to me like we had scored a goal. The puck seemed (to me) to sneak inside the post, goalie got his glove up but it hit the glove while the goalie's glove was inside the net, and he batted the puck out. Madigan seemed to want the refs to take a look and they refused his request. To me, that started everything. From there, SpeedRacer is right, refs were calling things that werent penalties and not calling things that were. Nobody in the stands or on the ice seemed to know what the rules were anymore. Then the refs called a penalty on NU for delay of game or something with the late changes, later someone mentined that it was because the net kept coming off the pegs. By the way, that is how BU has been playing hockey for decades and getting away with it. Make late changes and then blatently knock the net off when they know that D is out of position and/or the goalie is in trouble......Anyway..... We get called for that penalty which now exacerbates the problem. Now our bench is barking at the refs at any opportunity. The game is totally out of control, there are scraps and scrums all over and Saucerman and a St. Lawrence player go for matching penalties. They jaw at each other for all 2 minutes in between a very uncomfortalble looking penalty box attendant. You've seen the type, the guy is in the middle of these two and he's just trying to pretend that he's paying attention to the game and not hearing the insults and who knows what that is coming from these two guys. Then Kevin Roy gets his helmet ripped off of his head by an SLU guy is rightfully ****ed about it, is upset at the refs for just letting it happen and he (K Roy) is the one that gets a penalty. Next, comes the icing call in the 3rd. SLU ices the puck, everybody's gotta stay on the ice, no line changes. But these Bozos (no relation to Peter Roby) dont even look toward the SLU bench and they start changing guys on the ice. One of the refs notices it eventually and then they try to figure out who was out there that should remain on the ice. So these refs start pointing to different guys to come back on the ice, as they turn their back, other guys get on and off the ice behind thier backs. It was just a joke. Finally, I think they decided that it would be too embarassing for them to look at some video footage to tell who was on the ice at the time of the icing so they just went ahead with the faceoff. Now, THAT should have been a delay of game/unsportsmanlike penatly. But it wasnt.......Fast forward to the Ferriero incident. Frankly, and this is where I part ways with my friend SpeedRacer, I'm not surprised that it happened, and not because I think that Ferriero is a hot head or whatever. It's because the referees totally botched this game from the get-go. The level of frustration hit an all time high and this is what happens when guys totally lose control of officiating a game. ECAC should be embarrased by this and I hope Madigan writes a letter to the ECAC and NCAA. Really awful stuff.
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
So cheating and getting penalized for it exacerbated the problem for NU? Am I reading that correctly? I guess it is not surprising given the reaction here to Cronin getting bagged for his NCAA violations. And since BU used to get away with it, that makes it ok here for NU to do this and get away with it? If a team and a bench get out of control over refs doing their job, then there is a problem on (captains) and behind the bench (Madigan).
If you take the time to review who is on the ice for a faceoff, you've already ruined everything and let the 5 guys rest that WERE on the ice. Pointless.
From what I read in your post, it sounds like the people that had no control were not the officials from the ECAC but rather the NU team and coaches. In regards to the ECAC refs, I plan on accosting and berating Mr. Roby in the luxury suite at Matthews on Saturday night and then writing some letters to the President, the Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus about it on Monday morning when he laughs at me.
So cheating and getting penalized for it exacerbated the problem for NU? Am I reading that correctly? I guess it is not surprising given the reaction here to Cronin getting bagged for his NCAA violations. And since BU used to get away with it, that makes it ok here for NU to do this and get away with it? If a team and a bench get out of control over refs doing their job, then there is a problem on (captains) and behind the bench (Madigan).
If you take the time to review who is on the ice for a faceoff, you've already ruined everything and let the 5 guys rest that WERE on the ice. Pointless.
From what I read in your post, it sounds like the people that had no control were not the officials from the ECAC but rather the NU team and coaches. In regards to the ECAC refs, I plan on accosting and berating Mr. Roby in the luxury suite at Matthews on Saturday night and then writing some letters to the President, the Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus about it on Monday morning when he laughs at me.
NU Speed Racer
Doghouse Alum
Re: Northeastern Hockey 2013-14 Season
If the refs were doing their job, then yes you kinda have a point here. The problem was (and since you weren't there and didn't watch it) that the refs did not do their jobs, not correctly. That is what led to our captain and our coach to do their jobs and discuss with the refs. At what point is it no longer correct for the assigned player on the ice or the person in charge of the team to directly question the referee? King Cronin certainly started from the opening faceoff himself.
The point to this would be to get the call correctly. As I stated in my post, I didn't understand why there was only 1 single time a penalty was awarded for this. Wouldn't with all the confusion and the constant changing of players by STL have that lead to a penalty? Especially since there was a precedent made in the game?
If the refs were doing their job, then yes you kinda have a point here. The problem was (and since you weren't there and didn't watch it) that the refs did not do their jobs, not correctly. That is what led to our captain and our coach to do their jobs and discuss with the refs. At what point is it no longer correct for the assigned player on the ice or the person in charge of the team to directly question the referee? King Cronin certainly started from the opening faceoff himself.
The point to this would be to get the call correctly. As I stated in my post, I didn't understand why there was only 1 single time a penalty was awarded for this. Wouldn't with all the confusion and the constant changing of players by STL have that lead to a penalty? Especially since there was a precedent made in the game?
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