Northeastern 2015-16: Hobey Roy Kenobi and the Freshman Force

[NU_Husky]

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What on earth does him wearing a Santa outfit have to do with anything? So what? It's Christmastime. Nothing wrong with that at all.

NU Husky - that's all well and good that you are just using it during breaks and what not, but honestly, I never thought The Dog House would be so stupid as to use it while play was going on. I just think it makes you look like you want to be that one solo snarky guy with the wise *** comments. I don't know. It just doesn't fit. The few comments I did hear weren't very funny and were pretty annoying. Which is totally opposite of what I know The Dog House to be.

When I was at the basketball game, I told my cousin's husband, the MSU alum and huge Spartan fan that The Dog House was way more interesting, funny, creative and loud at hockey than what we saw at the hoops game. I told him about the "Fat Guy In A Little Suit" chant The Dog House directed at Jason Tapp many moons ago and how it should've been offensive but to this day cracks me up because it was comical. You guys are loud enough sitting right over opposing goalies that you don't need to use a megaphone to say derogatory comments. You become that annoying heckler at a stand up comedy show and to me, that's not the sign of a really good student section. Granted, I know your numbers were limited last night, but personally, I didn't think it warranted the use of a megaphone. I would say that's just my .02 but I've seemed to ramble on more than I intended.

I appreciate the feedback. I really do. Helps me get better and the section as a whole gathering input. But we never used it during play, always waited until after the whistle/a break in the action/commercial. Same policy as ever. As Revengeance said, we have had it all season, and some of last season. Never has there been any issue and if there is we comply and resolve it. The DogHouse you refer to, the one you used to know, isn't the current one, and that's a product of the school changing. The majority of kids cheer aren't rapid and are loud the whole game. Organized chants and such, sure. Not continuously, and then it's quiet as a library. I'd rather be the dope with the megaphone occasionally than let it be that quiet. Greater numbers would have helped the cause, but even with what we had, we have 15-20 loud, rowdy people all the time and then however hundred who aren't. I hear what you're saying about what the DogHouse was/what the reputation is. I've tried to get that instilled back into the NU culture. It's just a different school, different student body coming to these games. And it sucks. I want the old vibe back. But that's going to take a lot more effort than just me to get again. So I've had to adjust to work with/around it.

 

[Split-N]

Re: Northeastern 2015-16: Hobey Roy Kenobi and the Freshman Force

...I thought the dogs controlled play nearly the whole night. MSU had some stretches of control in period 1, not much in 2, and brief ones in 3. Ruck played his finest game imo, couple very good saves especially on the PP. He had one post to post to make a save on a one timer that had me rocking. Also good games from Collier, Gaudette, JStevens, and Cockerill. ZAR obviously gets the GWG but that setup and patience from John Stevens was incredibly pretty. PK did its job today too, discipline has come around for the boys. That hooking call on 7 was atrocious. Sauce had a bad penalty. Otherwise, thought we played a good game. Good note to end 2015 on. Now for some conference wins...

The dogs have actually played well starting with the Belfast games and probably should be 4-0-1 instead of 2-2-1 over that stretch. So maybe a page has been turned.

 

[Thiessen'sBetter]

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So how long until Nick Roberto is on a line with Collier and Kurker at NU?

 

[Happy Husky Victory!]

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NU Husky - that's all well and good that you are just using it during breaks and what not, but honestly, I never thought The Dog House would be so stupid as to use it while play was going on. I just think it makes you look like you want to be that one solo snarky guy with the wise *** comments. I don't know. It just doesn't fit. The few comments I did hear weren't very funny and were pretty annoying. Which is totally opposite of what I know The Dog House to be.

Not to start this debate again, but the Doghouse has been using a megaphone since the late 90's. This is nothing new. It's a great way to let the student section know what cheers are coming up to get everyone on the same page. It has also been used to heckle players and non-players alike. Get over it. Parker used to hate it too, but could do nothing about it. He even physically attacked the leader of the Doghouse one time over it's use. Whatever. Thanks for coming out, but it sounds like you have a better time at BU games.

 

[Scarlet]

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Not to start this debate again, but the Doghouse has been using a megaphone since the late 90's. This is nothing new. It's a great way to let the student section know what cheers are coming up to get everyone on the same page. It has also been used to heckle players and non-players alike. Get over it. Parker used to hate it too, but could do nothing about it. He even physically attacked the leader of the Doghouse one time over it's use. Whatever. Thanks for coming out, but it sounds like you have a better time at BU games.

I have nothing to get over, but thanks for your advice. If you're using the megaphone to let the student section know what cheers are coming up to get everyone on the same page, fine. Not sure why that's needed - shouldn't they all know them? Every time I've heard the megaphone it was never for that use but I'm only there once a year, maybe twice max, so it could be. And Parker didn't attack the leader of the Doghouse over its use. The kid left the balcony where he was supposed to be leading the Doghouse, came down to the lower bowl and reached over the railing as he was walking back to the locker room. But don't let facts get in the way of a good slam at BU! And actually, I do have a better time at BU games! The seats are more comfy, the food is better, the acoustics are clearer, the view isn't obstructed.....the older you get, the more you appreciate those things.

 

[walrus655321]

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I have nothing to get over, but thanks for your advice. If you're using the megaphone to let the student section know what cheers are coming up to get everyone on the same page, fine. Not sure why that's needed - shouldn't they all know them? Every time I've heard the megaphone it was never for that use but I'm only there once a year, maybe twice max, so it could be. And Parker didn't attack the leader of the Doghouse over its use. The kid left the balcony where he was supposed to be leading the Doghouse, came down to the lower bowl and reached over the railing as he was walking back to the locker room. But don't let facts get in the way of a good slam at BU! And actually, I do have a better time at BU games! The seats are more comfy, the food is better, the acoustics are clearer, the view isn't obstructed.....the older you get, the more you appreciate those things.

Not every school does the exact same cheers in the exact same order every game

Sometimes it's more fun to shake it up from game to game.

 

[Huskies01]

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And Parker didn't attack the leader of the Doghouse over its use. The kid left the balcony where he was supposed to be leading the Doghouse, came down to the lower bowl and reached over the railing as he was walking back to the locker room. But don't let facts get in the way of a good slam at BU!

That is not 100% accurate either. But not important, its been over 15 years since that incident happened, so like a good fish story, it continues to grow.

 

[Happy Husky Victory!]

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I have nothing to get over, but thanks for your advice. If you're using the megaphone to let the student section know what cheers are coming up to get everyone on the same page, fine. Not sure why that's needed - shouldn't they all know them? Every time I've heard the megaphone it was never for that use but I'm only there once a year, maybe twice max, so it could be. And Parker didn't attack the leader of the Doghouse over its use. The kid left the balcony where he was supposed to be leading the Doghouse, came down to the lower bowl and reached over the railing as he was walking back to the locker room. But don't let facts get in the way of a good slam at BU! And actually, I do have a better time at BU games! The seats are more comfy, the food is better, the acoustics are clearer, the view isn't obstructed.....the older you get, the more you appreciate those things.

Wrong again. 1. Here at Northeastern, we make up the chants as we go and our student section is quite creative. New things are always being incorporated, as opposed to the canned pre-scheduled cheers/chants at other schools... 2. Parker DID attack the leader of the Doghouse. It's right there in the police report. As a matter of fact, the kid did Parker a favor by not pressing charges. 3. Who are you to tell our fan base who should be standing where? Our students may move to any section within the Arena to cheer or heckle or whatever. 4. I'll concede that your food and view is better (other than first row balcony), seats....dunno about that since the remodel at Matthews. Definitely beats Walter Brown. All the BU people loved it at the time..... as if it could even hold a candle to Matthews. Place smelled like Ted Kennedy...stank of urine and beer. You're right....the older you get, the more you appreciate these things.

 

[Scarlet]

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Here at Northeastern, we make up the chants as we go and our student section is quite creative.

Totally agree. If you make them up as you go, why do you need a megaphone?

Who are you to tell our fan base who should be standing where?

I didn't say that. I said that the leader of the Dog House left the student section. Your student section is both ends of the balcony, is it not? Parker did not run up there. He was where a coach should be and that kid instigated it. Not saying Parker was right or was innocent in this (he wasn't), but that kid wasn't a pristine child and wanted to get a rise out of him and he did. Poor judgment on both sides. [/quote]

seats....dunno about that since the remodel at Matthews.

They're plastic. And cramped. And the view from many is obstructed. Though it's part of the charm of the place.

Definitely beats Walter Brown.

Many places did, which is why Agganis Arena was built.

All the BU people loved it at the time.....

Why wouldn't we love it? It was our team's home? Many people complained, until Agganis was built, then it was if WBA was a cool arena.

as if it could even hold a candle to Matthews. Place smelled like Ted Kennedy...stank of urine and beer.

Never having smelled Ted Kennedy before (how in the world did you get that close to him??????) I can't comment. And don't worry, no one would ever think it could hold a candle to your precious arena.

 

[TheRevengeance]

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We actually do have other student sections, they just never get bought (and may not even get released) until after the main two fill. I couldn't tell you exactly what sections they are, but I know at least one is 17, which is in the lower bowl. Of course, those kids generally just squeeze themselves in upstairs anyway, but they do technically have lower bowl tickets. It doesn't happen as much these days, but generally it still pops up about twice a year for BC/BU/homecoming.

Whatever situation you're all talking about was well before my time and this is the first I've heard of it, just wanted to point out that you can get student tickets in other sections.

Totally agree. If you make them up as you go, why do you need a megaphone?

It's generally easier to spread chants that nobody knows by making sure everyone can hear them. My whole freshman year I sat/stood on the opposite end as "The DogHouse" (as in, where the band is now) and I couldn't actually figure out what we were saying for some of the established chants until I started asking around. I'm fully confident from my own experience if there was anything remotely new it wouldn't have been picked up in the slightest.

 

[Rhett Hot]

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So how long until Nick Roberto is on a line with Collier and Kurker at NU?

lol

 

[Thiessen'sBetter]

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Anyone have a Roy update? The whole situation is interesting, lots of unanswered questions for me. When did the injury occur? Was it early and is that the reason for his lackluster play? How committed is he to a team with 3 wins when he only has a semester left before he goes pro? How is he viewed as a captain by his teammates? Who threw out the December 19th target return date? Who felt it would be best for him not to return on December 19th? Will he be back against Quinnipiac or held out again until HE games? Is there a threat that he leaves before the end of the season?

 

[HHound]

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Anyone have a Roy update? The whole situation is interesting, lots of unanswered questions for me. When did the injury occur? Was it early and is that the reason for his lackluster play? How committed is he to a team with 3 wins when he only has a semester left before he goes pro? How is he viewed as a captain by his teammates? Who threw out the December 19th target return date? Who felt it would be best for him not to return on December 19th? Will he be back against Quinnipiac or held out again until HE games? Is there a threat that he leaves before the end of the season?

Wow! Relax. I'll share what I can. The injury occurred on his second shift in the first bu game. I wasn't at bu and didn't see who/how it happened. He played the following night, but didn't feel right. When he told the coaches, they had it checked out and put him on the shelf until the medical staff clears him. He's still involved with the team and is still the captain. I have no idea who threw out the 12/18 date, but he really wasn't needed. As for his return for Quinippiac, I really can't speculate. His type of injury heals slowly and unpredictably. I'll be happy to have KRoy back for UNH in mid-January and certainly want him at full speed for the Beanpot. He's not going anywhere before the end of the season.

 

[Thiessen'sBetter]

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Wow! Relax. I'll share what I can. The injury occurred on his second shift in the first bu game. I wasn't at bu and didn't see who/how it happened. He played the following night, but didn't feel right. When he told the coaches, they had it checked out and put him on the shelf until the medical staff clears him. He's still involved with the team and is still the captain. I have no idea who threw out the 12/18 date, but he really wasn't needed. As for his return for Quinippiac, I really can't speculate. His type of injury heals slowly and unpredictably. I'll be happy to have KRoy back for UNH in mid-January and certainly want him at full speed for the Beanpot. He's not going anywhere before the end of the season.

Thanks for the update. Not trying to be panicked, just hadn't heard much. With minimal media coverage in college hockey, it leads to a lot of unanswered questions and speculation. I don't think its unreasonable for a player in his position to already be looking ahead to the future, especially coming off an injury. Happy to hear that's not the case.

Also, anyone have an update on Dustin Darou? He played well in the 2nd half of last year and has been a really underrated injury. Any chance that he medical redshirts and plays next year?

 

[Thiessen'sBetter]

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An update on former Huskies- Wade Macleod and Tyler McNeely are playing together again for the Rosenheim Star Bulls in the DEL-2. Pretty cool.

 

[TheRevengeance]

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Kevin is a big academic guy and I don't believe he's graduated yet, so I don't think there's much risk of him leaving. I'm more interested to see whether he leaves for Anaheim in March or stays until April and signs as a UFA over the summer. That's the only legitimate question regarding his future, and I'd imagine having Manson over there will help swing his decision for or against them.

He was presumably expected to be out for a while, considering they gave ZAR an A before his first missed game. But I agree with what was said before, I personally don't care whether he came back for a meaningless game against one of the few teams more pitiful than us.

I doubt Darou will RS, they probably need every dollar they can get this offseason, especially if Derick stays and wastes a scholarship that we could have used somewhere else. I feel like that situation is something to do with why Theut didn't RS last year even though he never played, he could create a logjam when Primeau is here and we're presumably looking for a roster spot for the next goalie of the future.

 

[Happy Husky]

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How about K. Roy returning for the Beanpot? it would be nice to see him there.

 

[beanstalk]

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Kevin is a big academic guy and I don't believe he's graduated yet, so I don't think there's much risk of him leaving. I'm more interested to see whether he leaves for Anaheim in March or stays until April and signs as a UFA over the summer. That's the only legitimate question regarding his future, and I'd imagine having Manson over there will help swing his decision for or against them.

The March/April "legitimate question" that you posited is actually illegitimate under the new NHL CBA that went into effect a few years ago. Anaheim retains Kevin's rights until August 15 regardless of when he leaves college, because he is in his fourth year of college and his fourth year of NCAA eligibility. So, there is no reason for Kevin to leave college before he graduates (assuming he's on track), unless Anaheim really wants him to leave early (unlikely given his performance this year) and he really wants to leave early (unlikely, given that he came back for his fourth year in the first place and it won't accelerate his free agency).

I think there are plenty of other legitimate questions about him, such as (a) when will he play again, (b) will he continue to be ineffective when he plays or will he look like the old Kevin, (c) was his ineffective play prior to the announcement of his injury related to his injury, (d) how far has his NHL stock fallen, (e) in the tug of war between his doctors, his coaches, his parents and his NHL "advisor", how much weight is he giving to each in making his decisions, and (f) has he still been a good Captain through all of this? Oh, and one more question: Can he coach? That's where we need the most immediate help.

 

[HHound]

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I think there are plenty of other legitimate questions about him, such as (a) when will he play again, (b) will he continue to be ineffective when he plays or will he look like the old Kevin, (c) was his ineffective play prior to the announcement of his injury related to his injury, (d) how far has his NHL stock fallen, (e) in the tug of war between his doctors, his coaches, his parents and his NHL "advisor", how much weight is he giving to each in making his decisions, and (f) has he still been a good Captain through all of this? Oh, and one more question: Can he coach? That's where we need the most immediate help.

I can't answer all of your questions, but I'll add what I can.
I don't think his unproductive play was the result of his injury, as I understand that it occurred early in the first period of the first bu game. Early in the season, we weren't converting our opportunities nor were we creating many. There's no family/advisor/doctor tug of war. If the docs don't clear him, he won't be allowed to play. Simple as that! As for his Captain qualities: You would do better to ask a teammate as none of us (AFAIK) is inside the locker room. As far a his stock is concerned, I have enough of a challenge dealing with the stock market, I can't begin to fathom the thought processes of an NHL GM.

 

[northeastern]

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John Picking (local kid) to NU.