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North Dakota 2016 Off-Season Thread

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There is talk on SS that if he signs now, he would be signing an entry level, 2 way contract but if he waits until after next year he would be a free agent. Could be a big difference in money. Don't know if that is true.
 
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Siouxfaninseattle said:
There is talk on SS that if he signs now, he would be signing an entry level, 2 way contract but if he waits until after next year he would be a free agent. Could be a big difference in money. Don't know if that is true.
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My understanding is max rookie contract is the same either way, and it seems most teams typically offer the max. However, you can essentially pick your team as a free agent, so if you were drafted by a team that is very deep at your position, you might be better off waiting for an offer where you might have a better chance of seeing NHL ice sooner. Or if you just don't like the team that drafted you for some reason, you can hold out. (For example, Mike Reilly held out so he could play for the Wild, where his Dad is a minor owner, despite the fact the Wild is very deep at D.)
 
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Koho said:
My understanding is max rookie contract is the same either way, and it seems most teams typically offer the max. However, you can essentially pick your team as a free agent, so if you were drafted by a team that is very deep at your position, you might be better off waiting for an offer where you might have a better chance of seeing NHL ice sooner. Or if you just don't like the team that drafted you for some reason, you can hold out. (For example, Mike Reilly held out so he could play for the Wild, where his Dad is a minor owner, despite the fact the Wild is very deep at D.)
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Normally, this is true. However, if a player turns twenty-five (25) before September 15 of the year they sign their first contract, they are not restricted to the entry-level rules (i.e. 2-way contract). Rather, they can sign a 1-way contract. (See Matt Read and Matt Gilroy.) LaDue turns twenty-five (25) September 6, 2017, and therefore would be able to sign a 1-way contract if he stayed through his senior season. This is why the Kings are putting a ton of pressure on him to sign (both last offseason, and this offseason). He has a very unique opportunity.
 
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I am all for college, but he is so ready and with the Kings, he is in a position to make an impact right out of the gate. They are a great organization who, at this point really need top end D. Win -Win for him. Also, getting near 25 years old, it would be a bad time for a college injury.
 
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Ronnieb said:
I am all for college, but he is so ready and with the Kings, he is in a position to make an impact right out of the gate. They are a great organization who, at this point really need top end D. Win -Win for him. Also, getting near 25 years old, it would be a bad time for a college injury.
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He might be ready, but a 1-way contract has to be extremely enticing. Injuries can happen anytime, and he can always buy insurance to protect against such an injury. Now, if the Kings are guaranteeing a spot in the NHL next season that's a different story, but my guess is if they had made such a guarantee he would have already signed.
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
He might be ready, but a 1-way contract has to be extremely enticing. Injuries can happen anytime, and he can always buy insurance to protect against such an injury. Now, if the Kings are guaranteeing a spot in the NHL next season that's a different story, but my guess is if they had made such a guarantee he would have already signed.
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(Didn't realize he was that old.) As for the injury argument, while the loss is huge monetarily if you weren't to make it due top injury, what are the odds? This is listed as a reason for turning pro/advancing early at many levels (especially when there is a player like this who seems to be ready), but it is extremely rare these days. Other than the freak back/neck injury, with modern medicine, most things no longer are career threatening. Concussion protocols reduce risk of second concussions before recovering from the first, and things like career ending knee injuries are a thing of the past.

The one consideration for a player this old not usually mentioned is if they are a person to whom making the max amount of money is important, there is a finite number of years he can be payed to play, and at 25 the end is closer than a lot of guys starting their pro careers. One would hope with the money a pro makes, this shouldn't enter the equation, but for some, it does.
 
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LaDue should be pushed out the door...A 24-year old Junior with an NCAA Championship and contract offer in hand. Or return to school and possibly play a bit of pro hockey in April 2017 before turning 25. Or start your pro career as a 25 year old?
 
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From a program standpoint it would have been a lot of fun to see all the underclassmen return this fall. Basically the entire team that hung banner #8, minus Caggiula, Chyzyk (energy guy who chipped in some goals) and a couple of character guys in St. Clair and Sanderson. With a couple of talented freshmen coming in, who knows how good they could have been. Barring injury or overconfidence, that team would have been a strong favorite to repeat.

But it would have also placed the program in a very precarious position. We'd have had four senior defensemen and a junior who will almost certainly leave early in T. Poolman. There would have been no playing time to develop our two good freshmen D from this past season, let alone guys like C. Poolman coming in.

Everyone expected Stecher and LaDue to leave after this season, and no fan of the program would begrudge that. They've contributed massively and done the program proud. Now is the time to make some money.

In an ideal world they would be the only two to leave early. With Thompson's departure, I now find myself on the fence regarding LaDue. I'd love to have his talent back. With T. Poolman, Ausmus, and our two sophomores, we'd have room for playing time for any freshmen coming in, or even Chartrand.

For me, it probably depends on whether we lose any forwards. If Johnson and Schmaltz leave, it would sure be nice to have LaDue back for some senior leadership, and to keep us plugging along until we find our feet offensively. If the forwards stay, LaDue just becomes a huge bonus.

LaDue has earned his shot and if he chooses to go, I wish him the best.
 
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SJHovey said:
Everyone expected Stecher and LaDue to leave after this season, and no fan of the program would begrudge that. They've contributed massively and done the program proud. Now is the time to make some money.

LaDue has earned his shot and if he chooses to go, I wish him the best.
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Absolutely true, on all accounts.
 
Ladue should stay just for the entertainment value of a 25 yr playing college hockey. Maine has had at least one that old and it drove fans of other teams crazy. Happy would go insane with him on the ice. All in good fun btw :)
If he is Canadian it makes it that much better
 
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LaDue is from Grand Forks and since Happy failed Geography he's under the belief that Grand Forks is in Canada, so the entertainment value could be rather high.
 
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Dirty said:
LaDue is from Grand Forks and since Happy failed Geography he's under the belief that Grand Forks is in Canada, so the entertainment value could be rather high.
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Wait, you're claiming Grand Forks is NOT in Canada? :eek:
 
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SJHovey said:
From a program standpoint it would have been a lot of fun to see all the underclassmen return this fall. Basically the entire team that hung banner #8, minus Caggiula, Chyzyk (energy guy who chipped in some goals) and a couple of character guys in St. Clair and Sanderson. With a couple of talented freshmen coming in, who knows how good they could have been. Barring injury or overconfidence, that team would have been a strong favorite to repeat.

But it would have also placed the program in a very precarious position. We'd have had four senior defensemen and a junior who will almost certainly leave early in T. Poolman. There would have been no playing time to develop our two good freshmen D from this past season, let alone guys like C. Poolman coming in.

Everyone expected Stecher and LaDue to leave after this season, and no fan of the program would begrudge that. They've contributed massively and done the program proud. Now is the time to make some money.

In an ideal world they would be the only two to leave early. With Thompson's departure, I now find myself on the fence regarding LaDue. I'd love to have his talent back. With T. Poolman, Ausmus, and our two sophomores, we'd have room for playing time for any freshmen coming in, or even Chartrand.

For me, it probably depends on whether we lose any forwards. If Johnson and Schmaltz leave, it would sure be nice to have LaDue back for some senior leadership, and to keep us plugging along until we find our feet offensively. If the forwards stay, LaDue just becomes a huge bonus.

LaDue has earned his shot and if he chooses to go, I wish him the best.
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Cam is coming back. http://www.grandforksherald.com/spo...nd-hockey-cam-johnson-returning-junior-season
 
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walrus said:
Ladue should stay just for the entertainment value of a 25 yr playing college hockey. Maine has had at least one that old and it drove fans of other teams crazy. Happy would go insane with him on the ice. All in good fun btw :)
If he is Canadian it makes it that much better
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FWIW, LaDue would only be 24 next season (doesn't turn 25 until September 2017)...not that that would prevent some from spinning it otherwise.
 
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